Apple Keynote

[viman96]

The new iMac is not as thin as they would like you to believe.

 

[vta]

My kids use it for watching movies. Not as often as they used to though. Also I do not like the idea of having to provide the drive if I wanted to reload the OS.

I'm a bit behind - still using a 2 Y/O Mac Pro, how do you load the OS if not with a drive?

 

[YosemiteSam]

My Samsung Series 9 laptop doesn't have a DVD drive either. That wasn't anything a LITE-ON 8x USB DVD drive couldn't fix. That is how I install Ubuntu on my laptop.

 

[casmith07]

The new iMac is not as thin as they would like you to believe.

That's actually a little bit of a weird perspective. It was much thinner when I watched the video live.

 

[viman96]

That's actually a little bit of a weird perspective. It was much thinner when I watched the video live.

When I first saw the new iMac I was wondering if it was thicker in the back then they were letting on. The pics on apple.com do not show the complete backside. Add in the no DVD drive and I started thinking it is a huge iPad

I got the pic from this site.

http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/apples-new-imac-thicker-than-it-seems

 

[casmith07]

Just looks like it's shot with a fisheye lens a little.

 

[a_minimalist]

My kids use it for watching movies. Not as often as they used to though. Also I do not like the idea of having to provide the drive if I wanted to reload the OS.

You download all new OS's through the App store now. Also, you can backup your OS to a flash drive in case anything goes wrong. That's what I do even with my DVD-RW drive.

 

[a_minimalist]

The new iMac is not as thin as they would like you to believe.

I noticed that when he presented it. He tried to hide it a little. Either way, it's impressive.

 

[viman96]

Two more pics

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

My kids use it for watching movies. Not as often as they used to though. Also I do not like the idea of having to provide the drive if I wanted to reload the OS.

You don't. You can literally download the OS from the internet on a fresh install.

I bought a new SSD for my macbook, booted up to the internet installation and an hour later I was in business.

Details here.

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

Thought that was hilarious. Sorry but if I purchased the new iPad just to have Apple come out and wizz all over it?

Color me NOT happy.

How exactly did they wizz all over it? Is the iPad 3 suddenly less functional? Are there things you can do with the new one you can't with the previous model? There are some nice spec bumps and the addition of the new lightning port, but your life is not in shambles if you are 'stuck' with the iPad 3.

 

[YosemiteSam]

That's actually a little bit of a weird perspective. It was much thinner when I watched the video live.

Definitely something odd in the perspective of that image. As if it were taken with a wide angle lens or something.

 

[YosemiteSam]

How exactly did they wizz all over it? Is the iPad 3 suddenly less functional? Are there things you can do with the new one you can't with the previous model? There are some nice spec bumps and the addition of the new lightning port, but your life is not in shambles if you are 'stuck' with the iPad 3.

:laugh2: A bit defensive aren't we? He is poking fun at a phenomenon that comes with any technology. Someone buys a product and days later a new version comes out.

If you think he is *just* picking on Apple, you should try the Android market. There isn't a single company putting a single phone putting out every year or two. 50+ new Android phones come out every year! My Galaxy Nexus isn't a year old and the Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note 2 are both newer and probably better than it in some way.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

That's actually a little bit of a weird perspective. It was much thinner when I watched the video live.

Just looks like it's shot with a fisheye lens a little.

Definitely something odd in the perspective of that image. As if it were taken with a wide angle lens or something.

It's shot with a wide angle. What's throwing you off is the perspective and the tilt of the image. The fact that the ceiling is barreled adds to the confusion when you look at it. Lemme 'splain a bit further because it's an optical illusion.

Because of the negative space at view right, i.e. the grey board, you're looking at the image and you're mind is judging that the center point is the top brass/copper button on the inside of the guy's jacket who is cut in half by the computer.

Now because of that, you're looking at the back of the computer that is curved, follow it up, and the next lines above are the curved lines of the ceiling in the background. Because the image is tilted to the left, you get a feeling that the image is shot like a fish eye which isn't the case. It's just a few lines in the image coming together to make it appear fish eyed.

I'd be willing to wager that if you take a ruler/business card and line it up on the edges of the table that the table's edges are perfectly straight. Same with the fluorescent light fixtures in the background.

 

[theogt]

For a better comparison.

 

[TheCount]

The only thing I think Apple did very well with is the iMac. Check that out. It's very cool. I want to get rid of my iMac now just to get it.

It's pretty but I question the practicality of a super slim, stationary machine. I'd take upgradeability, power and speed over a slimmer body anyday.

I have an iMac from 2009 and I had been waiting for a new iMac or Mac Pro to upgrade, I'm going to keep right on waiting for the Mac Pro.

The new iMac does not have a dvd drive. So they want it to be a big iPad with external device support?

I haven't used my dvd-drive in ages.

 

[Hoofbite]

That new iMac has me at full salute in the shorts.

I've been eyeballing a new one for a while but my current one works well enough to where I haven't been that motivated.

 

[a_minimalist]

It's pretty but I question the practicality of a super slim, stationary machine. I'd take upgradeability, power and speed over a slimmer body anyday.

I have an iMac from 2009 and I had been waiting for a new iMac or Mac Pro to upgrade, I'm going to keep right on waiting for the Mac Pro.



I haven't used my dvd-drive in ages.

Well you know how practical it will be if you already have an iMac. I don't do anything heavy on a computer where I need all of that power. I'd much prefer something that takes up less space and can still have some power.

As far as upgrading goes, the only thing I think most users ever need to upgrade is memory. That's as easy as unscrewing a small part on the bottom and taking the old memory out and putting the new memory in. They've made it very easy for you. I've done it and it makes a big difference. Next iMac I buy I'll make sure it has 4 slots instead of 2 though.

Is your iMac the 27" ? I bought my iMac like 2-4 months before they came out with that. I can't even begin to describe how pissed I was.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I haven't used my dvd-drive in ages.

DVD drives have three main uses today and one of them is almost obsolete today.

1. Data backup. (back up to a disk)
2. Operating System Installation
3. Program Installation.

#3 is almost obsolete since you can download many apps today. Companies like Steam make it so you never have to buy a physical CD/DVD for a game anymore. Blizzard too.

As for data backup, the Internet is solving that too with several methods of backup from Dropbox to Google Drive.

All that is left is Operating Systems and even though can be done over the Internet as long as you have some form of initial boot beyond the hard drive. Well, at least with Linux. (USB drive, or even in some cases a USB DVD drive)

I own a USB DVD drive for OS installation only really. I'm greatfully to have it just in case I need it for other reasons later on.

I also own an IBM USB floppy drive that is bootable (not all are) that I've had for 4 years and have NEVER used. I own it because when I bought it there were some very real reason to own it. (install Win XP, but need a driver for a disk. A floppy was the ONLY way to install the drivers if the CD didn't already have the driver)

 

[Hoofbite]

Agreed. That was a sweet little desktop. The price isn't bad at all. Odd since Apple loooves to jack its systems up on price, just because they are Apple.

I think the price for the 21 inch is the same as it was about 5 years ago when I bought mine.

From what I have seen, Apple has a set price when their products enter the market and they kind of keep that set price for future models of the same size.

Is the price high when they enter? Different question and the answer is "yes".