Are Bernie and Livings guaranteed back now?

[Zordon]

At least till training camp are these two guaranteed a future here with them reworking their deals today? It seems like Free is going to be the only change to this putrid line.

 

[jobberone]

I've always thought they'd be able to compete.

 

[Tabascocat]

Yes until TC at least. I hope this doesn't mean they are penciled in as starters. Who knows though, all posturing ATM to free up some cap space.

 

[Nation]

Livings was always guaranteed to be back here, Bernie I still think will depend on who else is brought in

 

[Lodeus]

Still have OTA's, Training camp, and preseason. Lets hope we can get better replacements by the end of those.

 

[speedkilz88]

Livings was always guaranteed to be back here, Bernie I still think will depend on who else is brought in

Coaches seem to like Bernadeau's upside better than Livings. I think they are hoping that a healthy Bernadeau in workouts and camp will make for a better prepared player. We really never saw the physical player they thought they signed.

 

[Idgit]

Of course they're going to be back. Fan's disappointment aside, Livings played decently, and Mack's good enough to make the roster and compete for playing time.

It's way, way too early to grip about what OL changes get made just because we're exercising options in contracts we expected to exercise all along. We haven't started the draft or veteran FA.

 

[AbeBeta]

Livings was always guaranteed to be back here, Bernie I still think will depend on who else is brought in

He plays G and C reasonably well.

He stank early after coming off two surgeries - he was pretty good later, particularly at center. If he's healthy coming into camp, he's going to compete at C and/or G. Even if we bring in two other OL, he's still likely to stick

 

[Beast_from_East]

At least till training camp are these two guaranteed a future here with them reworking their deals today? It seems like Free is going to be the only change to this putrid line.

Short answer...................................YES

 

[burmafrd]

lets hope they do not have to start them again next season. If nothing else they are decent (for us) depth. Sad fact is that 4 of our 5 starters probably would not be decent depth for the top 10 O lines in the NFL.

 

[speedkilz88]

lets hope they do not have to start them again next season. If nothing else they are decent (for us) depth. Sad fact is that 4 of our 5 starters probably would not be decent depth for the top 10 O lines in the NFL.

Name those 10 top lines. I'm betting that some of them have some pretty ordinary starters.

 

[burmafrd]

Name those 10 top lines. I'm betting that some of them have some pretty ordinary starters.

those ordinary starters are better then 4 of our 5

 

[xwalker]

At least till training camp are these two guaranteed a future here with them reworking their deals today? It seems like Free is going to be the only change to this putrid line.

Livings' base salary was already guaranteed for 2013.

If they restructure Bernadeau, then that is giving him some guaranteed money which would make it very doubtful that he gets cut.

 

[TheCount]

Yes, they'll be back. The fact that we had to rework those contracts after just signing them last year is pitiful but the fact of the matter is that QB's are killing teams' caps. If you've got a good QB, chances are you're going to have to constantly be juggling the other contracts.

 

[xwalker]

Yes, they'll be back. The fact that we had to rework those contracts after just signing them last year is pitiful but the fact of the matter is that QB's are killing teams' caps. If you've got a good QB, chances are you're going to have to constantly be juggling the other contracts.

In the past, the primary method of keeping the current year salary cap in check was through Signing Bonuses that were prorated over the life of the contract (max 5 years).

Now, the Cowboys are using a 2nd method. They give players large guaranteed base salaries for the 2nd year. After the 1st year, they automatically restructure the 2nd year base into a restructure bonus that can be prorated over 5 years. Sometimes they guaranteed the 3rd year base salary also.

They were able to get Brandon Carr's 1st year salary cap number to 3.6M using this method.

Basically, they most likely planned to restructure Livings' and Bernadeau's contracts just like they had planned on doing with Carr's contract.

 

[speedkilz88]

In the past, the primary method of keeping the current year salary cap in check was through Signing Bonuses that were prorated over the life of the contract (max 5 years).

Now, the Cowboys are using a 2nd method. They give players large guaranteed base salaries for the 2nd year. After the 1st year, they automatically restructure the 2nd year base into a restructure bonus that can be prorated over 5 years. Sometimes they guaranteed the 3rd year base salary also.

They were able to get Brandon Carr's 1st year salary cap number to 3.6M using this method.

Basically, they most likely planned to restructure Livings' and Bernadeau's contracts just like they had planned on doing with Carr's contract.

That also explains why they were going to be over the cap without the restructuring.

 

[Idgit]

Yes, they'll be back. The fact that we had to rework those contracts after just signing them last year is pitiful but the fact of the matter is that QB's are killing teams' caps. If you've got a good QB, chances are you're going to have to constantly be juggling the other contracts.

In the past, the primary method of keeping the current year salary cap in check was through Signing Bonuses that were prorated over the life of the contract (max 5 years).

Now, the Cowboys are using a 2nd method. They give players large guaranteed base salaries for the 2nd year. After the 1st year, they automatically restructure the 2nd year base into a restructure bonus that can be prorated over 5 years. Sometimes they guaranteed the 3rd year base salary also.

They were able to get Brandon Carr's 1st year salary cap number to 3.6M using this method.

Basically, they most likely planned to restructure Livings' and Bernadeau's contracts just like they had planned on doing with Carr's contract.

Still consider it 'pitiful' Count? Or does the proper context make it actually the opposite?

 

[TheCount]

In the past, the primary method of keeping the current year salary cap in check was through Signing Bonuses that were prorated over the life of the contract (max 5 years).

Now, the Cowboys are using a 2nd method. They give players large guaranteed base salaries for the 2nd year. After the 1st year, they automatically restructure the 2nd year base into a restructure bonus that can be prorated over 5 years. Sometimes they guaranteed the 3rd year base salary also.

They were able to get Brandon Carr's 1st year salary cap number to 3.6M using this method.

Basically, they most likely planned to restructure Livings' and Bernadeau's contracts just like they had planned on doing with Carr's contract.

Good reply, I'm just not happy with guaranteeing those two anything. Neither should ever have been signed to begin with.

That bring said, I would certainly hope a professional football team is prepared to handle being over the cap.

Still consider it 'pitiful' Count? Or does the proper context make it actually the opposite?

Thanks for your reply as well, it was thoroughly inconsequential.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

They were guaranteed something like $1.5m between the two of them. OH NOES!!!!

At the end of the day though, having to ask this question in the first place.....

 

[gimmesix]

At least till training camp are these two guaranteed a future here with them reworking their deals today? It seems like Free is going to be the only change to this putrid line.

I don't believe they were ever leaving, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're starting.