Are draft picks overrated?

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We have seen some trades this offseason involving some pretty high-profile players. (Marshall, McNabb, Ginn, and today Sims) I find it kind of surprising teams are so willing to give up a known quality player for what really is usually a shot in the dark. What do you guys think?
 
koolaid;3354422 said:
We have seen some trades this offseason involving some pretty high-profile players. (Marshall, McNabb, Ginn, and today Sims) I find it kind of surprising teams are so willing to give up a known quality player for what really is usually a shot in the dark. What do you guys think?

No Marshall produced at a high level then had issue so he was not a bust plus remember in a couple places their is new management in town and are trying to weed out guys for and get something in return.

You build the core thru the draft and then fill in spots with solid vet FA.

Sometimes if you are close you may trade some draft picks for a piece of the puzzle. So saying 100% yes they are overrated would be foolish and saying never to trade them for a vet is foolish. You just have to make sure it makes since for the team and that you did not over pay (cough cough see Roy Williams)
 
koolaid;3354422 said:
We have seen some trades this offseason involving some pretty high-profile players. (Marshall, McNabb, Ginn, and today Sims) I find it kind of surprising teams are so willing to give up a known quality player for what really is usually a shot in the dark. What do you guys think?
Marshall had attitude problems. McNabb was getting old and they needed to see what they have in Kolb. And Ginn and Sims have been busts, so their teams may as well trade them for something.

Especially in the age of the salary cap (and I do think the salary cap will be back soon), it is important to have draft picks because of how cheap they are compared to vets.
 
I believe so essp First Rounders. For every Anthony Spencer their is usually a Bobby Carp. Remove the risk and trade it for a proven commodity., if more trades go like this you could build a darn fine team via trades as opposed to drafting.
 
You have to have young players play on cheap rookie contracts, because you can't pay all 22 starters their market premium. So not only is Denver getting two second round draft picks for Marshall, they can also spend the salary that they would have spent on Marshall on other free agents to fill team needs.
 
Romo 2 Austin;3354459 said:
I believe so essp First Rounders. For every Anthony Spencer their is usually a Bobby Carp. Remove the risk and trade it for a proven commodity., if more trades go like this you could build a darn fine team via trades as opposed to drafting.
Just the opposite of the way it works.

How many ring of honor members did we trade for and how many did we draft?
 
A good/great player you can trade for or sign.

A HOF player you can only draft.
 
Draft picks are like Cars. Once you make the pick 9 times out of 10 the pick decreases heavily in value.
 
Romo 2 Austin;3354459 said:
I believe so essp First Rounders. For every Anthony Spencer their is usually a Bobby Carp. Remove the risk and trade it for a proven commodity., if more trades go like this you could build a darn fine team via trades as opposed to drafting.

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Romo 2 Austin;3354459 said:
I believe so essp First Rounders. For every Anthony Spencer their is usually a Bobby Carp. Remove the risk and trade it for a proven commodity., if more trades go like this you could build a darn fine team via trades as opposed to drafting.

Would you say like trading for Galloway?

no wait

How about Roy Williams?
 
koolaid;3354422 said:
We have seen some trades this offseason involving some pretty high-profile players. (Marshall, McNabb, Ginn, and today Sims) I find it kind of surprising teams are so willing to give up a known quality player for what really is usually a shot in the dark. What do you guys think?

Maybe because the known player is already established what He's going to offer on a team. A shot in the dark in the draft can get you a super star. I think it's worth the risk.
 
koolaid;3354422 said:
We have seen some trades this offseason involving some pretty high-profile players. (Marshall, McNabb, Ginn, and today Sims) I find it kind of surprising teams are so willing to give up a known quality player for what really is usually a shot in the dark. What do you guys think?


YES, and I have been saying it for a long time now.

Especially if you are going to have the player you traded for 3, 4, or 5 years.
Even if you take RW11 production from last year, and compare it to most 1st round receivers numbers, Roy out does 95%.
 
I think some trades are bargains because a team wants to get something out of the transaction. Like Sims today. The Lions are disgusted so they took less than he is worth.
 
sm0kie13;3354486 said:
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Basketball isn't football so you can't make that comparison. In a game where there are only 5 starters, a few trades make a huge difference. In a game where there are 22 starters, a few trades won't make as big of a difference. Therefore in football, 22 starters, trades cannot build a franchise it can only fill a number of needs whereas drafting is more important.
 
thechosen1n2;3354567 said:
YES, and I have been saying it for a long time now.

Especially if you are going to have the player you traded for 3, 4, or 5 years.
Even if you take RW11 production from last year, and compare it to most 1st round receivers numbers, Roy out does 95%.
I hope you don't seriously believe this.
 
Gzus;3354477 said:
A good/great player you can trade for or sign.

A HOF player you can only draft.

I guess you're not in the camp that thinks Charles Haley should ever go into the Hall then, eh?
 
Dhragon;3354620 said:
I guess you're not in the camp that thinks Charles Haley should ever go into the Hall then, eh?
rare exception
 
thechosen1n2;3354567 said:
YES, and I have been saying it for a long time now.

Especially if you are going to have the player you traded for 3, 4, or 5 years.
Even if you take RW11 production from last year, and compare it to most 1st round receivers numbers, Roy out does 95%.
Please don't make claims that are false....or I'll have to pull out stats to prove you wrong.

Roy E Williams 38 rec 596 yards

Crabtree (missed 5 games) 48 rec 625 yards
Heyward-Bey 9 rec 124 yards
Maclin 56 rec 773 yards
Percy Harvin 60 rec 790 yards
Hakeem Nicks 47 rec 790 yards
Kenny Britt 42 rec 701 yards

So in the end Roy E Williams only beat out Heyward-Bey..... That's one outta 6.... So 83.33% of the 1st round receivers from last season alone beat Roy Williams....
 

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