Are The Cowboys Super Bowl Contenders?

[Bob Sacamano]

Wow, what an advantage!

it's still an advantage

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I can relate, some responses are useless to read for the same reason.

is that supposed to be an insult or something?

 

[DallasEast]

When he has two better seasons in a row. Oh yeah, those seasons are the only ones that he was the starting h-back or TE (as he was in 06)

He was a glorified H-Back both seasons. Just because he lined up more as a tight end during one particular season doesn't change the fact.

And even Joe Gibbs knows he's a glorified h-back. THAT'S his role in Gibbs offense. Why do you persist in comparing him with Witten?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Guys you let the Commander bait you into a Wash versus us debate. You can compare position to position all day long but last time i checked they were the 6th worst team in the league last season and we were in the playoffs. Washington has done very little to improve their club and the draft outside of that first pick will be no help at all.

A good season for them next season would be to improve to 9 wins. A good season for us would be to improve to 12 wins. Quite frankly after last years performance they are not in our league whatsoever. The teams that we have to concern ourselves with are going to be:

1) Chicago
2) Seattle
3) Philadelphia
4) Carolina
5) New Orleans
6) Atlanta

When you look at it like this then you have to really think weve got a good shot. Chicago losing Briggs and Rivera hurts. Seattle's window ofoppurtunity is closing. Philly needs a great draft or they regress. Delhomme is getting worse every year. Counting on Michael Vick is like trusting your daughter with a binch of ex cons.

You really have to think were right in the thick of it.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Guys you let the Commander bait you into a Wash versus us debate. You can compare position to position all day long but last time i checked they were the 6th worst team in the league last season and we were in the playoffs. Washington has done very little to improve their club and the draft outside of that first pick will be no help at all.

A good season for them next season would be to improve to 9 wins. A good season for us would be to improve to 12 wins. Quite frankly after last years performance they are not in our league whatsoever. The teams that we have to concern ourselves with are going to be:

1) Chicago
2) Seattle
3) Philadelphia
4) Carolina
5) New Orleans
6) Atlanta

When you look at it like this then you have to really think weve got a good shot. Chicago losing Briggs and Rivera hurts. Seattle's window ofoppurtunity is closing. Philly needs a great draft or they regress. Delhomme is getting worse every year. Counting on Michael Vick is like trusting your daughter with a binch of ex cons.

You really have to think were right in the thick of it.

 

[superpunk]

Someone got his head caved in.

 

[dalboy]

yes if everything is good

 

[Hostile]

is that supposed to be an insult or something?

I think it's "or something," but I was never good at multiple choice.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

In April there are 32 contenders.

You're not going to get a better answer than this one ...!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

It's like talking to a wall!

:bang2:

Like Forrest says, "stupid is as stupid does....."

:bang2:

Just embrace the density.

 

[The30YardSlant]

In April there are 32 contenders.

I will never understand this mentality

No, there are NOT 32 contenders in April. The Houston Texans are not a contender. The Cleveland Browns are not a contender. The Oakland Raiders are not a contender. The Detroit Lions are not a contender.

There are more obviously, but you get the idea. I would argue that there are not that many teams with a legit shot to win the title.

Indy
New England
Chicago
San Diego
Baltimore
New Orleans
Philly
Dallas
Cincy
Seattle

After that, there is a massive drop off in terms on likelyhood.

 

[Hostile]

I will never understand this mentality

No, there are NOT 32 contenders in April. The Houston Texans are not a contender. The Cleveland Browns are not a contender. The Oakland Raiders are not a contender. The Detroit Lions are not a contender.

There are more obviously, but you get the idea. I would argue that there are not that many teams with a legit shot to win the title.

Indy
New England
Chicago
San Diego
Baltimore
New Orleans
Philly
Dallas
Cincy
Seattle

After that, there is a massive drop off in terms on likelyhood.

I'd explain it to you HH, but then you'd try all kinds of spin control and I'd just end up poking fun. In April there's still a draft to come where huge impacts on a team can be made. There are still June cuts. In April there is no way to project how good a team might become. Last year there is no way anyone thought New Orleans (who had a far worse record than Houston this year) would be a contender. But they were.

If you can't see that, then I suggest an eye exam. I'm not saying every team is a top contender, I am saying in April any team could build enough to make the playoffs. That alone makes you a contender. Not a top contender, but that wasn't the question.

Deny this if you wish, but it only makes you look silly.

 

[big dog cowboy]

No, there are NOT 32 contenders in April.

At least it's better than baseball. After NY and Boston is there anyone else?

 

[The30YardSlant]

In April there's still a draft to come where huge impacts on a team can be made.

Yeah, a rookie QB is going to vault the Raiders and Lions into title contention

Maybe Adrian Peterson will rush for 2,000+ yards and 20+ TDs and the Browns will win 10 or so games :laugh2:

There are still June cuts.

Which almost never amount to anything. When was the last time ANY June 1st cut made the difference in a team's title run, or lack thereof?

In April there is no way to project how good a team might become.

Sure there is. I can gurantee you, right now, that the Oakland Raiders wont make the AFC playoffs. I'd bet anything and everything I own on that

Last year there is no way anyone thought New Orleans (who had a far worse record than Houston this year) would be a contender. But they were.

No, but many had them as a "shocker" team to rise up in a division with Tampa and Atlanta not expected to amount to much. No one is expecting anything from the likes of Cleveland, Oakland, Detroit, etc.

Not to mention they DID get pounded in the game that actually mattered

If you can't see that, then I suggest an eye exam. I'm not saying every team is a top contender, I am saying in April any team could build enough to make the playoffs.

No, they can't. Again, name your price. I can name 5 teams right here that I KNOW, FOR A FACT, won't make the playoffs this year. That alone disqualifies your argument

Deny this if you wish, but it only makes you look silly.

What else is new :laugh2:

 

[The30YardSlant]

At least it's better than baseball. After NY and Boston is there anyone else?

Hos' arguement actually applies to baseball, since the game is such a crapshoot. Baseball involves more lucky bounces and crazy plays than any sport on the planet, just about any team can win the title because team skill doesnt mean neaerly as much as it does in basketball, hockey or football.

 

[DallasEast]

Hos' arguement actually applies to baseball, since the game is such a crapshoot. Baseball involves more lucky bounces and crazy plays than any sport on the planet, just about any team can win the title because team skill doesnt mean neaerly as much as it does in basketball, hockey or football.

I disagree. Year-in, year-out, MLB is ruled by a handful of teams with the best skilled players and very good managers.

 

[peplaw06]

No, but many had them as a "shocker" team to rise up in a division with Tampa and Atlanta not expected to amount to much. No one is expecting anything from the likes of Cleveland, Oakland, Detroit, etc.

Not to mention they DID get pounded in the game that actually mattered

The only thing NO had done at this time last season was sign Drew Brees and Sean Payton. Nobody had them as "top contenders" at this time.
When they drafted Bush, they got a little more hype, but not really enough. In fact, most people outside of NO were skeptical of their hot start over the first month. Who knew Marques Colston and all the Cowboys castoffs would be so good that late into the season? If you say you did, you're either a Saints homer, on the team, or lying to yourself.

 

[peplaw06]

Hos' arguement actually applies to baseball, since the game is such a crapshoot. Baseball involves more lucky bounces and crazy plays than any sport on the planet, just about any team can win the title because team skill doesnt mean neaerly as much as it does in basketball, hockey or football.

Over a 162 game season, the lucky bounces and crazy plays balance out and talented teams typically come out on top.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I disagree. Year-in, year-out, MLB is ruled by a handful of teams with the best skilled players and very good managers.

Exactly and you have teams like the Pirates, Royals, Devil Rays and Marlins who dont have a shot.

Its actually funny becasue the Marlins management has a policy where they will underspend their budget for 4 or so seasons so they can pay all out one year and then have a firesale just to have a shot every now and then.

 

[Hostile]

No, they can't. Again, name your price. I can name 5 teams right here that I KNOW, FOR A FACT, won't make the playoffs this year. That alone disqualifies your argument

Tell you what, name your 5 teams and at the end of next season if all 5 missed the playoffs I will congratulate you in front of this entire forum. I'm not interested in a bet. I can make the same projection, but it isn't impressive. I still say they are contenders until other teams don't flub everything up and stay ahead of them.
If you try and tell me in April last year that New Orleans was thought of as a contender you're lying. That alone proves my theory. Neither was Tennessee, especially by you. So excuse me if I doubt your omniscience as much as I doubt certain teams to suddenly get it. One could, but I doubt it too. Still doesn't change the fact that right now all 32 teams have the exact same record.