Are The Cowboys Super Bowl Contenders?

[firehawk350]

How can a glorified H-Back get more props than a bonafide Pro Bowl tight end?

When he has two better seasons in a row. Oh yeah, those seasons are the only ones that he was the starting h-back or TE (as he was in 06)

 

[firehawk350]

In which he started 7 games.

Which you threw a fit about earlier.

And still...you address no points.

I award you no points, Witten is better, you can't produce any ranking system that refutes that besides "firehawk's homer system" and may god have mercy on your soul.

You've been getting rocked up one side and down the other in this thread. Time to go be with the other homers and lick your wounds.

Yeah, any ranking system??? How about the one I've been expounding. You know, looking at all the statistics?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yeah, but in order to compare two players, you can do one of two things. Project out to the younger player to make up for the time he wasn't playing OR you can compare the seasons that they both played. Which do you want it to be?

last 2 years

Witten-756
Cooley-754

let's compare career seasons shall we? which WItten's was btw, his 1st year as a 16 game starter, his 2nd year

 

[Stash]

When he has two better seasons in a row. Oh yeah, those seasons are the only ones that he was the starting h-back or TE (as he was in 06)

What magical 'criteria' somehow give Cooley two better seasons in a row?

Put up or shut up already.

 

[firehawk350]

At least he wasn't a leftover who got cut from the Texans!

The offensive line challenged Texans cut that bum!

Oh yeah, I forgot, the Texans are the kings of personnel decisions. Wait, wasn't Davis from the OL challenged Cards?

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

this is still going on?!?!

 

[Hostile]

Really? Whos better on the skins then? And I mean not obviously better like Portis. Who edges out a Cowboy's player by a thin margin that you don't mind admitting???

I had a feeling you were insecure enough not to believe me. This is starters only.

LT...Samuels over Adams
RT...Jansen over Columbo
RG...Thomas over Davis
RB...Portis over Jones

I'd flip a coin between Rabach and Gurode at Center.

FS...Taylor over Hamlin
RCB...Smoot over Henry

It's hard for me to even compare the front 7 given 3-4 vs. 4-3, but I'd take Marcus Washington on any football team and London Fletcher too. I think your front 4 is a mess, hence why I wouldn't trade the #6 pick for Briggs and #31.

I think you have some young players on the bench that are good too. Though I dislike your team I am not blind to talent or potential. I am brutally honest, even when it chaps Cowboys fans butts.

Welcome to the chapped butt club.

 

[superpunk]

Yeah, any ranking system??? How about the one I've been expounding. You know, looking at all the statistics?

That's firehawk's homer system. Where TDs are the end-all and Witten's best season is disregarded. Pure stats are not very in depth. I've provided you one. I've shown why Witten has better hands, is more of a downfield threat, whereas Cooley catches passes behind the LOS and stretches them due to blocking.

You've got TDs.

Go cheer on Cooley in your homer tent. We'll keep cheering the NFC's best TE.

 

[skinsngibbs4life]

IMO, there isn't much seperation between Witten and Cooley

I'd say it's about even, Cooley is better at getting in the endzone, and Witten is the more surer receiver, both are average blockers

maybe we should just leave it as this and you all can call it a day

 

[Bob Sacamano]

When he has two better seasons in a row. Oh yeah, those seasons are the only ones that he was the starting h-back or TE (as he was in 06)

you mean he had more TDs and 2 more 20 and 40+ yard receptions, despite lower yards, receptions, yards per catch and 1st downs? that's 2 lesser seasons

 

[superpunk]

maybe we should just leave it as this and you all can call it a day

Because summer was wrong.

It's not that even, except for last year.

 

[Stash]

Oh yeah, I forgot, the Texans are the kings of personnel decisions. Wait, wasn't Davis from the OL challenged Cards?

I don't think a Commanders fan can criticize anyone's personnel decisions, do you?

Difference being that Davis was eligible for free agency. You remember him, the guy Napoleon tried - and failed - to sign to play LG for you?

Oh, and Kosier was also a free agent.

Unlike that bum Wade who was cut by a team with nothing on the O-line.

 

[firehawk350]

What magical 'criteria' somehow give Cooley two better seasons in a row?

Put up or shut up already.

Talking to you is like talking to one of those automated voice systems. You say something and all you say is some stupid programmed response. Here's the last two seasons in a row.

Witten: 1511 yards, 7 TDs
Cooley: 1508, 13 TDs

3 less yards and 6 more TDs. You tell me who had the better two seasons.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I had a feeling you were insecure enough not to believe me. This is starters only.

LT...Samuels over Adams
RT...Jansen over Columbo
RG...Thomas over Davis
RB...Portis over Jones

I'd flip a coin between Rabach and Gurode at Center.

FS...Taylor over Hamlin
RCB...Smoot over Henry

It's hard for me to even compare the front 7 given 3-4 vs. 4-3, but I'd take Marcus Washington on any football team and London Fletcher too. I think your front 4 is a mess, hence why I wouldn't trade the #6 pick for Briggs and #31.

I think you have some young players on the bench that are good too. Though I dislike your team I am not blind to talent or potential. I am brutally honest, even when it chaps Cowboys fans butts.

Welcome to the chapped butt club.

are you serious? 2 of the most abused players in the NFL in the secondary?

you'd have to compare Washington to Ware, Ware>>>Washington

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Talking to you is like talking to one of those automated voice systems. You say something and all you say is some stupid programmed response. Here's the last two seasons in a row.

Witten: 1511 yards, 7 TDs
Cooley: 1508, 13 TDs

3 less yards and 6 more TDs. You tell me who had the better two seasons.

less receptions, yards per catch and 1st downs too

 

[Stash]

Talking to you is like talking to one of those automated voice systems. You say something and all you say is some stupid programmed response. Here's the last two seasons in a row.

Witten: 1511 yards, 7 TDs
Cooley: 1508, 13 TDs

3 less yards and 6 more TDs. You tell me who had the better two seasons.

Put in ALL the number clown, not just the ones that you use to try to help your lame argument.

Use all of 'em or none of 'em.

 

[firehawk350]

less receptions and 1st downs too

We'll go there.

Witten: 110 receptions, 77 first downs
Cooley: 128 receptions, 77 first downs...

 

[Hostile]

are you serious? 2 of the most abused players in the NFL in the secondary?

you'd have to compare Washington to Ware, Ware>>>Washington

I'm no fan of either guy, but I can't deny their talent. That's my whole point.

Thanks for paying attention.

 

[firehawk350]

less receptions, yards per catch and 1st downs too

That's a statisical impossibility. If you have the same amount of yards and less receptions, you have to have more YPC. And Cooley has the edge on 1st downs.

 

[superpunk]

Put in ALL the number clown, not just the ones that you use to try to help your lame argument.

Use all of 'em or none of 'em.

Here's some

Witten's second and third years

1737 yards, 12 TDs

Cooley

1508 yards, 13 TDs

Picking and choosing is teh hotness.