News: Are there hidden dangers to the Cowboys long view approach to the 2016 offseason?

[CCBoy]

Hardy was shut down by a rookie udfa in the last game against the Commanders, when he had an incentive to make an extra $2 million. Hardy wasn't the player they thought they were getting and this myth of him being double teamed is just a that, a myth.

That was put out on a media talk with a discussion on attempting to project what might be expected from Lawrence this season. I assume that the statistics were actually there. There hasn't been a contradiction since those were put out as fact.

But based upon his play in a single game, with his slide over the last six, doesn't disprove a thing, although...kind of a shallow attempt to disprove. There was statistics that included number of times that defensive ends were double teamed, individually. Not the same at all...but how you approach such statements, leads to a personal agenda and not really attacking facts with more than an abstract personally isolated view.

But up some stats that hits at the neighborhood of what I originally presented. I don't make the stuff up.

You don't even approach a slam on Hardy, responsibly...woo hoo. A single game, a single game? Does that mean that LT Smith is non responsive with a bad game against a single defensive end as well? (Similarly used as argumentative, naw, that is still a lame approach)

 

[CCBoy]

there's not one in the first round to fix the problem either.... Bosa and Buckner are not rush ends. You don't spend a 4th pick on a DE who isn't going to get you double digit sacks per year.

Was the minister and all of his sacks, not a rush end if his hips didn't swivel? Oh, and look up the 'Minister of Defense,' Reggie White.


With more of an abstract criteria, you for Spence then? Style was the criteria as presented.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Hardy was shut down by a rookie udfa in the last game against the Commanders, when he had an incentive to make an extra $2 million. Hardy wasn't the player they thought they were getting and this myth of him being double teamed is just a that, a myth.

I still feel he was our best dlineman and wouldve done better this year. Now there's a hole at de

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Was the minister and all of his sacks, not a rush end if his hips didn't swivel? Oh, and look up the 'Minister of Defense,' Reggie White.


With more of an abstract criteria, you for Spence then? Style was the criteria as presented.

you're comparing these Bozos to Reggie White? LOL

 

[conner01]

It's also the fastest way to dig yourself into a hole, if you aren't positioned to set that QB up for success. Teams that take QBs high in the draft and then give them lousy coaches and plop them down behind a crummy OL with no weapons around them can ruin the QBs' careers and their own mid-term futures very easily. I really think a lot of the hit-or-miss nature of QB draft picks is more because of the settings they go to than the quality of players they are.

Fortunately for the Cowboys, they're in a tremendous position to take a QB and set him up for success, at least in terms of the talent in front of and around him on the field. So I agree with you--the Cowboys should not hesitate to take a QB if one they like is there--but I'm not fully on board with this as the first step for every team missing a good QB.

You can destroy a QB if you can't protect him. David Carr is a good example. That I agree with but if you have a QB you have something to build around. I think too many qb's are rushed to play and play for bad teams that don't have an oline or weapons to help him. My thinking is you draft a QB, let him fit a couple years and learn while you build the pieces he needs around him. We have the oline and can run the ball which really helps young qb's

 

[CCBoy]

you're comparing these Bozos to Reggie White? LOL

That's like taking a hound dog out to hunt a mountain line, and he trees a possum...wrong category completely. The topic that was run from, was a pressure person who was not a tremendous burst with flipped hips, but dominance at the line of scrimmage. Remember Bob Lilly, you think he was the sudden explosion and fast twitch stud so in favor now? Neither were, and neither are Buckner or Bosa...I would be satisfied with a Manster as well...someone who would hustle you to death and stick his helmet in the center of your chest. As to an offensive line, he would club them to death...and no, neither of those two have missed the boat. Still name calling, that they just couldn't today?

First up, this fan doesn't tip toe around a disgust and feigned ownership of a wicked look into the heart of a young athlete's heart. Hell, A&I's John Randle didn't even have a place and walked onto the field and wouldn't be ignored.

Don't get me really started on great players, heart, and unheralded...and what was the selective term used above....bums?

 

[big dog cowboy]

there's not one in the first round to fix the problem either.... Bosa and Buckner are not rush ends. You don't spend a 4th pick on a DE who isn't going to get you double digit sacks per year.

Thank you!

 

[CCBoy]

Thank you!

Yea, not a one...remember that Cowboy that was drafted high up to be a defensive end and failed miserably...no, not Shante Carter, but Bob Lilly.

Let's just start putting a little they ain't nothing, despite team scouting departments still endorsing the players and start putting a little credability on the line instead of flavor dejur of some fans...how do you feel about the Linebacker from Notre Dame, Smith? He just a risk and not a top end play maker...or worth an investment similar to Sean Lee?

Not a popular player or position? Oh, and he's benching over 400 now, and leg pressing over 600.

 

[CCBoy]

Information?

Laufenberg: As my former coach and current good friend Lee Corso would say, "Not so fast, my friend!" Did you know...in the first 3 rounds in the last decade, the Cowboys have actually drafted 10 players who ultimately made a Pro Bowl (tied with KC and Minnesota). And in the last 6 years, they are the only team in the NFL to have drafted 3 All-Pros. For comparison, New England, viewed as the gold standard for all things NFL, have drafted two first round Pro Bowlers in the last 6 years and no All-Pros.

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...e-jerry-jones-good-finding-rookie-free-agents

 

[CCBoy]

Yea, not a one...remember that Cowboy that was drafted high up to be a defensive end and failed miserably...no, not Shante Carter, but Bob Lilly.

Let's just start putting a little they ain't nothing, despite team scouting departments still endorsing the players and start putting a little credability on the line instead of flavor dejur of some fans...how do you feel about the Linebacker from Notre Dame, Smith? He just a risk and not a top end play maker...or worth an investment similar to Sean Lee?

Not a popular player or position? Oh, and he's benching over 400 now, and leg pressing over 600.

On the spot correction, that 400 pounds is a regular squat workout poundage.

 

[CCBoy]

Now, as to the nanny too too's that cry nothing from later in the draft, and all because of Jerry:

Laufenberg: They have really not hit on any late round draft picks, with the exception of Dwayne Harris with a 6th round pick in 2011. Where they have excelled is finding rookie free agents. Barry Church, Cole Beasley, Dan Bailey, Jeff Heath. And of course, I hardly consider him a "rookie free agent," but technically that is what La'el Collins was. So you have to give Jerry Jones the credit for the sell job on Collins. I still say if I were a college head coach, I would hire Jerry as my lead recruiter. Saban would be getting his leftovers!

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...e-jerry-jones-good-finding-rookie-free-agents

 

[texbumthelife]

Yea, I'll rarely post something that isn't backed by statistical support. Yes, his lack of double teaming was dependent upon Hardy being in the mix last season...and the fact that he was concluding but year two in the professional ranks.

I guess what I meant was, can you post a link to the stats or article saying Lawrence was the least double teamed DE in the league? Where did you find this info? I looked for it and came up empty.

 

[CCBoy]

Is Bosa capable of immediately getting pressure on the quarterback? What position will Ramsey play and can he stick with faster, bigger NFL receivers? Could Spence fit as the left defensive end in Dallas' 4-3 or is he more of just nickel and dime pass rusher? Will Wentz ever develop into what the Cowboys need him to become? There are just so many lingering questions regarding this upcoming draft. And regardless of who the Cowboys choose, there will still be questions. That's the kind of draft class it is and that's how vital their first-round pick will be for the Cowboys' immediate future and their long-term plans as well.

Regardless of who their pick is, the Cowboys' scouting department has done an incredible job at assembling the pieces on the roster and for what the future may hold. So whether the pick is Bosa, Ramsey, Elliott, or maybe even someone we've never even thought of, there has been enough evidence to prove that Dallas is doing something right with how they go about the draft and there aren't any signs of that ending. With a front office that is making smarter decisions, both financially and holistically, the Cowboys definitely have a bright future ahead.

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