Are we just living off Parcells

[theebs]

Me too. I think it is nothing but wadded up undies to say this team has not added any impact players under Wade. I am not a Wade fan, but my trash is clear of my undies too.

I dont know what that even means. And no I am not butt-hurt about it either whatever that means also.

I think if you line up the players from parcells first three years and then line up the players from wade's first three years who evaluates talent better.

When parcells got here he had a left tackle and two safeties. Everything else was open for business.

Now in wade and this staffs defense, its impossible to evaluate 09, maybe mcgee will turn out to be a good pro and jason williams and the rest of this year will too.

But as of right now, I really never understand why any talk of what talent parcells acquired while here always turns into someone mentioning butt-hurt and other ridiculous comments.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

the jerk Parcells (he's still a Giant) drafted high and made some bad picks and some good picks--how come when we ever make a bad pick it's JJ's fault but the fat Tuna gets credit for any good ones (and I'm leaving Carpenter out of my equation)

Where did I ever say Tuna didn't miss on players because he didn't. My point is that we're simply getting by from what Parcell's set into motion. Wade has brought in anyone for us to say that's a Wade guy.

 

[arglebargle]

Parcells' system for finding and drafting players was a good addition. As an evaluater of talent, he was just as prone to pet cats that washed out as anyone else.

He also couldn't summon up the fire for more than a couple of years before skipping out to another gig.

 

[Rampage]

Are you trying to change your criteria after you were shown to unknowledgeable on the subject?

As to the new question you have posed, we led the league in sacks last year. Even with that fact we drafted 2 primary pass rushers in Victor Butler and Brandon Williams. We got a pretty good looking addition at ILB in Keith Brooking. We also drafted a great prospect in Jason Williams that will be ready to take over in the future once Bradie James or Keith Brooking leave/retire. Other great defensive additions as mentioned before are Orlando Scandrick and Mike Jenkins. Also, do you also realize that Jay Ratliff was a JAG until Wade got here?



Just for fun, we'll break down your previous post again to make you look silly...


FELIX JONES, Leonard Davis, Martellus Bennett, Nick Folk, Mike Jenkins, Orlando Scandrick, Roy Williams


FELIX JONES, Leonard Davis, Martellus Bennett, Nick Folk, Mike Jenkins, Orlando Scandrick, Roy Williams

Garrett wanted Felix and everybody knows Jerry did.

Garrett also wanted Bennett

Roy Williams- Jerry wanted Roy before Wade was even here.

so Wade got us a kicker, and 2 corners who could still be boom or bust right now.

 

[theebs]

the jerk Parcells (he's still a Giant) drafted high and made some bad picks and some good picks--how come when we ever make a bad pick it's JJ's fault but the fat Tuna gets credit for any good ones (and I'm leaving Carpenter out of my equation)

actually Parcells has been blamed for almost all of the bad picks when he was here and since he has left we have heard from many who have taken away the credit repeatedly on many of the good players we have here who came while he was in charge.

As the stories go, parcells not only drafted the players that didnt work out but he also didnt want to draft...newman, witten, spears, ware, didnt want romo, didnt want austin, he was to blame for stephen jackson, He didnt sign kurt warner...etc..etc....etc.

and in a fun twist, while parcells was coaching here he got blamed for every miscue in every area of the game. FG blocked in Washington to lose the game...Parcells fault.......two deep passes to lose to the skins in 05 ..parcells fault......Losing to seattle in the playoffs on a fluke play....parcells fault for not going after the secondary........I could go on and on.

how does it go around here now? Defense plays bad...Brian Stewarts fault....special teams are bad Bruce Reads fault...offense is bad...Garrett and romo's fault.

Interesting how that happens isnt it.

Maybe I am just "butt-hurt" though.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Garrett wanted Felix and everybody knows Jerry did.

Garrett also wanted Bennett

Roy Williams- Jerry wanted Roy before Wade was even here.

so Wade got us a kicker, and 2 corners who could still be boom or bust right now.

 

[Robbieac]

Yeah I keep hearing about how much Felix impacts the game yet I don't see anything to back these claims.

Do you really believe that nonsense as well?

 

[iceberg]

No.

Next question? Or is it next useless thread?

Can you make it a poll thanks.

can we make a poll for what next useless thread you'll start today?

it's raining - i need to get out more.

no, we're not living off a coach who also never won a playoff game here, had his good moments and his not good moments, and is now the coach of an 0-2 team who's biggest gift back to the cowboy fans are at least we're not drooling over sprano leaving now.

 

[iceberg]

I like how you keep bringing up Mendenhall but I don't. Yeah I keep hearing about how much Felix impacts the game yet I don't see anything to back these claims.

all that proof is right next to your relevant posts.

 

[zrinkill]

Oh get over your Rashard Mendenhall butt hurt already. Judas Priest it's freaking older than dirt.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

can we make a poll for what next useless thread you'll start today?

it's raining - i need to get out more.

no, we're not living off a coach who also never won a playoff game here, had his good moments and his not good moments, and is now the coach of an 0-2 team who's biggest gift back to the cowboy fans are at least we're not drooling over sprano leaving now.

He doesn't coach the dolphins. But I just see a lot of similarties between parcelsl get canned and Wade getting hired and Jim Johnson and then Switzer and ganley the campo. A lot of yes man.

 

[iceberg]

He doesn't coach the dolphins. But I just see a lot of similarties between parcelsl get canned and Wade getting hired and Jim Johnson and then Switzer and ganley the campo. A lot of yes man.

and i see another blind fan who sees what they want to see.

JONES ONLY HIRES YES MEN!!!

then how did parcells get in the door?

<insert stupid excuse to keep the hate alive even w/o valid reason>

i see a lot of fans who'd never even qualify to BE a yes man but we can't fire those.

damn it.

 

[This is Our Year]

Like I've said, Parcells was the only good thing to happen to this team since Super Bowl XXX, and it's no coincidence that we've been in a slow tailspin since he left.

Anyone who questions Romo's talent is purely ********. There's no accountability and discipline in his game. That comes from a LACK OF COACHING. He hasn't earned the right to be a "gunslinger" like Favre. Those things come after you've won a Super Bowl or at least a few playoff games to prove yourself.

If Parcells had stayed on during that 13-3 season, who knows where this franchise would be right now. The sky was the limit. Instead, we're back to dealing with Jerry in his raw and uninhibited form again.

We have the talent...we just need a RESPECTABLE coach who demands accountability. This will come in the form of a Shanahan or Cowher type.

I basically agree with this in a nutshell. We are slowly turning right back to the 5-11 years. Not that it will happen this season, but we need a coach in place that demands respect. I'm sorry we ain't winning anything big or important with Wade at the helm.

 

[UnoDallas]

and what has Parcells done since his last SB win wheres

underdoogs

wayback machine

SB 1986 - 1990

dallas 34 - 30

we have Ware who he did not want he wanted Merriman
Spears - Carp - Newman who did not want - MBIII - Crayton and Mcq - James - Witten

the only free agaent pick up that was good was Columbo - Romo and Sean Payton put his job om the line for him

you can even make a team with his picks


only the losers
here you look up Bpp's drafts

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/dal.htm

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Again, it is no coincidence that the talent level improved significantly when Big Bill arrived at Valley Ranch.

I firmly believe that the talent level was so bad when Big Bill arrived, that it was going to take quite a bit of time to start winning consistently.

I remember Norm Hitzges writing an article several years ago outlining how he felt the Cowboys had the worst drafts of any team during the Post-Jimmy/Pre-Parcells Days.

Bill Parcells literally handed Wade Phillips the keys to a Lamborgini.

Besides, if Tony Romo doesn't bobble the snap in Seattle, Big Bill gets the Playoff Monkey off the back of the Dallas Cowboys.

I'd take him back if it where between him and what we have now.

 

[wileedog]

then how did parcells get in the door?

Almost a decade of failure, 15-33 over 3 years and a roster utterly devoid of talent will make even a guy like Jerry look in the mirror once in a while.

Who else in this universe hire Dave Campo or Barry Switzer to be a Head Coach?

Who else continues to employ Larry Lacewell through a decade of horrific drafts?

Maybe the original statement was a broad generalization, but you gotta admit pre-Bill Jerry wasn't exactly looking for people to challenge his authority, until he realized just how badly he was screwing up. Wade wasn't picked for that reason either, and you gotta wonder about the Reeves blowup too this offseason.

 

[iceberg]

Almost a decade of failure, 15-33 over 3 years and a roster utterly devoid of talent will make even a guy like Jerry look in the mirror once in a while.

Who else in this universe hire Dave Campo or Barry Switzer to be a Head Coach?

Who else continues to employ Larry Lacewell through a decade of horrific drafts?

Maybe the original statement was a broad generalization, but you gotta admit pre-Bill Jerry wasn't exactly looking for people to challenge his authority, until he realized just how badly he was screwing up. Wade wasn't picked for that reason either, and you gotta wonder about the Reeves blowup too this offseason.

and there's that useless excuse i was looking for.

you can't say he only hires yesmen then excuse parcells as a one-off. the only reason i can fathom why someone would do that is their own personal hate, screw reality.

 

[wileedog]

and there's that useless excuse i was looking for.

you can't say he only hires yesmen then excuse parcells as a one-off. the only reason i can fathom why someone would do that is their own personal hate, screw reality.

I gave you several examples of people hired by Jerry who clearly were not in a position nor had the reputation or power to challenge Jerry jones authority in any way.

You've given me one example of a person who was. The last one before Bill was Jimmy and we saw how that turned out.

Please provide the same courtesy of evidence I provided to you before relegating my position to personal hate, because honestly I think I'm in a better position to call your opinion agenda driven then mine, given the track record.

 

[Hostile]

I dont know what that even means. And no I am not butt-hurt about it either whatever that means also.

I think if you line up the players from parcells first three years and then line up the players from wade's first three years who evaluates talent better.

When parcells got here he had a left tackle and two safeties. Everything else was open for business.

Now in wade and this staffs defense, its impossible to evaluate 09, maybe mcgee will turn out to be a good pro and jason williams and the rest of this year will too.

But as of right now, I really never understand why any talk of what talent parcells acquired while here always turns into someone mentioning butt-hurt and other ridiculous comments.

I wasn't talking about you or to you. Perhaps that is why it didn't register.

 

[iceberg]

I gave you several examples of people hired by Jerry who clearly were not in a position nor had the reputation or power to challenge Jerry jones authority in any way.

You've given me one example of a person who was. The last one before Bill was Jimmy and we saw how that turned out.

Please provide the same courtesy of evidence I provided to you before relegating my position to personal hate, because honestly I think I'm in a better position to call your opinion agenda driven then mine, given the track record.

so there are 2.

in the end it really doesn't matter - jones will do what jones wants to do and those who can't change it at all will sit here and go WAH.

my opinion is that jones will hire who he thinks is best for the job. when we got wade, who was out there that was any better really - norm?

pu-leez.

jones isn't going to get along with everyone but it's not realistic at all for the casual fan to sit here and slam jones for not doing what THEY want - esp when that fan knows it isn't going to happen.

yes i think jones should hire a GM, no he won't, so i won't start up useless debate after useless debate over it cause it just doesn't matter.

you'll still hate jones the GM and i still won't give a damn.

so you're *assuming* you know my opinion. you're already wrong - spanky.