CZ POLL Are you happy with the Cowboys drafting CB Kelvin Joseph with the 44th pick?

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Reality, May 3, 2021.

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Are you happy with the Cowboys drafting CB Kelvin Joseph with the 44th pick?

Poll closed May 6, 2021.
  1. Yes

    81.1%
  2. No

    18.9%
  1. SeanLee50

    SeanLee50 Well-Known Member

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    On paper, yeah I agree. Nobody on this forum wanted Grant (I’ve met him personally and am close with the UCF program) or Holland!

    I do believe though, Quinn is happy with Kazee and is comfortable with his health. Izzy can be groomed to be the future FS.

    It’s obvious this team just doesn’t want to draft a FS. I’m just stoked we got a big boy at 1 tech now
     
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  2. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt BP is not impressed with your post Admin

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    Best CB on the board IMO.
    Also it was reported they were trying to trade up at the first of the day and most just thought it was for the TCU Corner but I think it was for Joseph or Campbell.
     
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  3. Proof

    Proof Well-Known Member

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    How come
     
  4. blueblood70

    blueblood70 Well-Known Member

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    at first, No after extensive research and reading feedback on the guy , he seems to have to potential to be the bookend to Diggs on the other side..they have similar games..

    odd though looking over the draft , how many of those Kentucky defenders went off that team? many seems like they may have had said core of players that were somewhat unknown to a lot of people..weve seen that relatively unknown small school player types end up with great careers. Just because we weren't aware doesnt make it bad pick.

    this goes for our entire draft, who cares about draft board rankings and media breakdowns, coaches and scouts have far more insight into players and build their board accordingly. They dont need to follow the fan bible which are mocks..

    if they did that HIF players would never be chosen later rounds or UDFAs which i saw a crazy stat the other day

    there are 17 UDFAS in the HOF comparted to 14 first overall selections..

    odd isnt it.??

    KJ was the 4th rated CB on most boards unbeknownst to me as ive never really heard of the guy..
     
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  5. Aven8

    Aven8 Well-Known Member

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    He looked very good against Devonte Smith and also had a pick. Hopefully that continues seeing him twice a year.
     
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  6. Hawkeye0202

    Hawkeye0202 Well-Known Member

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    Bingo! Just posted this in another thread..........not hard to see. Fans saying the Raiders stole him......lol
     
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  7. ThreeandOut

    ThreeandOut Well-Known Member

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    Like his talent but it's very concerning when you manage to alienate the coaches at two different schools.
     
  8. Ekspozed

    Ekspozed Well-Known Member

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    we got the 3rd best cb in the draft without having to move.

    That's a yes for me.
     
  9. stilltheguru

    stilltheguru Well-Known Member

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    No. But I'm willing to be wrong
     
  10. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    The talent is undeniable but he's had issues with two coaching staffs and he thinks he's a rapper.

    I'd have gone in a different direction.
     
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  11. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    Caleb Farley would have a word with you but he's currently suffering through the late stages of AIDS.
     
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  12. Ekspozed

    Ekspozed Well-Known Member

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    I discounted him because I'm very concerned with his injuries and if he'll ever be healthy.

    Surtain has the least upside of the bunch but he is so sound he could end up being the best.
     
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  13. starfan1

    starfan1 Well-Known Member

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    heck ya ! Not a big gap between the top and him. My only concern would be is he committed to football with his Rap career. Maybe its a nothing burger and he can be successful at both . There's no denying he's talented
     
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  14. jazzcat22

    jazzcat22 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, he has a legit shot to start. With him and Diggs, those spots can be anchored for a long time. 1st time since Deion and Smith / Brown.
     
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  15. Hennessy_King

    Hennessy_King Well-Known Member

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    Because athletically hes a freak. Hes a rsw prospect that has already flashed playmaking ability in zone and man coverage. Held de smith to 0 catches and had an int in man against him. The kid has that swaggu u want from an outside corner that wont back down and is a dog. O and the ball skills 4 ints in 9 games
     
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  16. Clarke82

    Clarke82 Active Member

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    Nope, I'm not sure that Kelvin Joseph even likes playing football.
    He seems to be more into the Music scene.
    If he was dedicated and wanted to be great, he has the talent to be in the conversation with Surtain, Horn and Farley as the top corner in the class.
     
  17. Dak_N_Zeke

    Dak_N_Zeke New Member

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    I have to vote no on this pick, but I loved the draft as a whole.

    My issue is that he seems to be the 7th-11th best CB in the draft based on all the pre-draft rankings.

    It looks like a massive reach.

    I think the coaches should follow their convictions and not the pre-draft rankings, but I am concerned.

    I know you can't trade back on demand, but I question if he could have been had later on. And I question if Asante Samuel would have just been the better pick.
     
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  18. Creeper

    Creeper Well-Known Member

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    I would have preferred they get Surtain or Horn at 10 but Joseph was a good pick under the circumstances.
     
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  19. ninja

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    I think Joseph will play better than Awuzie, Lewis, and Brown ever did.

    Joseph seems to have as much talent as Diggs. And Diggs was the best CB in the 2020 draft. Everyone’s 10-year starter, future All-Pro, shut down CB Okudah was a putrid pile of stinking garbage last year. Go figure.

    Who knows what Surtain or Horn will do. Farley had back surgery and Moehrig might need back surgery.
     
  20. CowboyoWales

    CowboyoWales Well-Known Member

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    If all else fails we had Kazee to play FS. If all else failed we have Anthony Brown playing CB2. I know which combination I'd prefer.
    This draft needs to be looked at in light of the Compete Now needs and what we've already got on the roster.
     

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