Are you prepared for the long slog?

Chuck 54

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On offense: Romo and Witten as elder statesmen and increasingly slower and more fragile.
Years before we can (if we get them in the draft) develop another QB, WRs. And by the time we do develop some blue-chippers, our sterling O line might be then getting up in years.

On defense: Even with an overhauled defense, it will take several years for it to get in sync. Let's see, no run stuffers, a horrible secondary and a linebacking core that has yet to assert itself. The DE's? I see promise in our youngsters at that position.

All in all, blokes, I do not share that rose-colored view of Romo returning and all of the sudden the team marching to the playoffs.

So many positions to shore up. So many aging veterans.

I am interested to get your views as to when this team will again be ready to make a serious run.
I think, with wise drafting and shedding some players to make room capwise and impact FA's we could be fit and ready to really contend in maybe 3 years.But possibly longer.

But no sooner than that. Before we contend will come some hard years of more 8-8 (or worse) seasons.

What is your timetable for success, blokes? And, please, respond with your intellect, blokes, and not your hearts.

I hope you realize that despite the ages of Romo and Witten, the Cowboys rank near the top in the league in average age (youth) in the NFL.
 

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I hope you realize that despite the ages of Romo and Witten, the Cowboys rank near the top in the league in average age (youth) in the NFL.

Perhaps but I was referring to the core: i.e. Romo, Witten and now McFadden in the O, who make up like 70% of our offensive play time.
 

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Perhaps but I was referring to the core: i.e. Romo, Witten and now McFadden in the O, who make up like 70% of our offensive play time.

The only guy in that entire group that concerns me is Romo. Yes, you have to replace him at some point.
Witten has been great and is still serviceable, but when he steps down, finding a TE won't be that difficult.
McFadden....RB's are a dime a dozen. He may be part of a committee or he may prove he can carry the load, but teams do not have much trouble reloading at the position. Even with the Cowboys screwing it up this year with some of their projects and starting Randall, RB was still a solid position for us on the whole.
 

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Well that's too bad then. Maybe TO had a good point. That Romo locks in way too much to Witten. Witten should he a check down option, not this big of a role anymore. Players make mistakes. Romo has made countless of mistakes. Yet he's still out there. But Romo has always been one to point fingers when he throws a pick. It can never be his fault.

I'm just tired of the slow, check down Witten focused offense. It's not going to win anything.

Romo I like him, but he became a star and with that came power that he began to use, and like they
say power corrupts, and this has affected the offense an who is out there, and maybe even plays
etc.
Tony even had a say in the draft for a few years.
So you could say that he is in part to blame for some of the problems.

Witten is still a decent blocker, and he can still run deeper routes, he just doesnt have RAC ability.
But if you look at olsen on Carolina, he does not have much rac either, he just gets open deeper than witten.
 

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The only guy in that entire group that concerns me is Romo. Yes, you have to replace him at some point.
Witten has been great and is still serviceable, but when he steps down, finding a TE won't be that difficult.
McFadden....RB's are a dime a dozen. He may be part of a committee or he may prove he can carry the load, but teams do not have much trouble reloading at the position. Even with the Cowboys screwing it up this year with some of their projects and starting Randall, RB was still a solid position for us on the whole.
RB's are a dime a dozen........ that is laughable statement and I can tell you actually believe that! :lmao2:

RB was still a solid position for us on the whole......... no it wasnt, that was a illusion. at first of the year the coaches
and play caller had no confidence in the run game or the backs we had. That had a big effect on calling plays and game plans.
It wasnt until after game 8-10 they started realizing that McF was a guy who could carry the load and be effective, but
was still not as effective as Murray was on 3rd down runs, and on 1st down runs.

There is also team chemistry, the players including the linemen have to like and believe in a RB for awhile before they have the right
chemistry . That had developed with murray, and also other teams feared Murray way more than McF, and This had started to
develop with McF , but since they lost every game, it just fizzled out.

Players are not ROBOTS, They dont play the same each game and mentally they have to believe in certain things and their fellow players, and get up for games, The 2014 group had that going, but the jones boys got rid of some players they should have kept, and then brought in
some they shouldnt.

They have to start over now, even romo says this, and that the 2014 team is gone.
And I hope they get a great RB, one with size, not one of your "dime" RB's.
 

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Cowboys will do what we've seen them do for 20 years. They'll go 8-8/9-7 for the next 2 or 3 seasons, catch lightning in a bottle go 10-6 /11-4, then stick their chests out, make stupid personnel decisions, and drop to 5-11/6-10. Rinse a repeat. So I'm thinking a true winning season to feed all the delusional Super Bowl talk will be in the works come 2019.
 

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Isn't that the same offense we ran last year that should have been in the conference championship game?

'Should have been'. We weren't. That's all that matters. All we did last season was win a wild card game. Same as 2009. So yes, we have not won anything and won't win anything with this core. Unless you keep believing the next year and the year after will finally be the year. Romo + Witten is not a combo that's going to get us anywhere. It's been proven.
 

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The only guy in that entire group that concerns me is Romo. Yes, you have to replace him at some point.
Witten has been great and is still serviceable, but when he steps down, finding a TE won't be that difficult.
McFadden....RB's are a dime a dozen. He may be part of a committee or he may prove he can carry the load, but teams do not have much trouble reloading at the position. Even with the Cowboys screwing it up this year with some of their projects and starting Randall, RB was still a solid position for us on the whole.

I disagree on the RBs being a time a dozen . If they were common, there would bean impact RB on the roster.
 

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'Should have been'. We weren't. That's all that matters. All we did last season was win a wild card game. Same as 2009. So yes, we have not won anything and won't win anything with this core. Unless you keep believing the next year and the year after will finally be the year. Romo + Witten is not a combo that's going to get us anywhere. It's been proven.

Yes, and the chances of them stepping up their game at this point of their career is not going to happen. It is time to realize that they are no longer the future.
 

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We have improved the aging personal substantially from when Red took the reins.
The oline is the youngest and best in the league. The defense still needs help as does
a WR or two with TE.

Where we're glaringly void is the next franchise QB and I am sorry to report I think
Dallas passes on one of the big three in this draft. It's a [ugh] mistake.

This is going to be a long off season with a couple of good to great players added to
the roster and no bright future.
 

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I cannot see that. At all. I can say that there were higher expectation re Ro, Hardy, Gregory but, my lord!, the defense was horrible this past season and the year before just mediocre that happened to play alongside a good offense.

we have improved the defense. last year was an aberration
 

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I think the issue is that a lot of fans don't think Romo can make it through the season without getting hurt and without Romo, we lose every game.

So I can understand the apprehension..........if Romo goes down in week 5 next year, then I put our chances of making the playoffs under 5%

Or less.

Saying that, if he plays all 16 games, that % goes up to 75 or so.
 

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We have improved the aging personal substantially from when Red took the reins.
The oline is the youngest and best in the league. The defense still needs help as does
a WR or two with TE.

Where we're glaringly void is the next franchise QB and I am sorry to report I think
Dallas passes on one of the big three in this draft. It's a [ugh] mistake.

This is going to be a long off season with a couple of good to great players added to
the roster and no bright future.

No. 1 priority is QB Goff. BUILD AROUND HIM.
 

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we agree on the position but I like Wentz. Both could be gone at 4
It's a maddening position to be in. We are almost, almost!

Maybe wentz, too, will be cheaper. He hasn't seen the big city and would settle for an RV and a big truck plus the minimum.
 
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