ARTICLE: Carter happy to be back in pads

[superpunk]

Michael Irvin was a mediocre WR?

What the hell was I watching back then?

90210?

 

[Doomsday101]

you know what? these are the same people that was in president clinton personal life when he go some down low things from Monica Lusinki..

What goes on outside of football is personally none of everybody that watches football business....

It is the business of the team!!! The teams is paying out big money for a fricken kids game and what you put into your body be it steriods or drugs is their right and the players Union even agrees with that. As fans yes we can and should expect players to be clean this is not a god given right to play in the NFL.

 

[gbrittain]

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LINK?:starspin WHAT IS YOUR SOURCE OF THIS INFORMATION EXCEPT YOURSELF?

Nevermind. Already posted.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

:laugh2:

It was a Parcells machination then?



This getting very good.

So are you implying Carter would have been our missing ingredient last season and got us in the playoffs? Do tell.

yup... please ask why?

 

[Alexander]

2003 defensive oppoenents> 2004.
In 2003 we played against both of the NFC championship teams and beat them both and we played against both of the superbowl teams. We didn't play against any championship caliber teams in 2004, except for the Eagles and we were swept by them..

In Sum, Carter had the tougher schedule, yet got us to the playoffs without a feature rb or a top receiver.

And WRs that didn't fight for the ball. Don't forget that classic excuse.

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

Michael Irvin was a mediocre WR?

What the hell was I watching back then?

Cool, so if you are a great player, do all the drugs you want, you are still a great guy and upstanding teammate. However, smoke pot and have a couple of tuff years, and you are the antichrist.. Makes sense.

 

[Alexander]

90210?

I do miss that show.

 

[superpunk]

Who said anything about Irvin getting cut? But thanks for trying to bust my balls

You're the one saying he hurt his teammates. That's how Quincy hurt his teammates, by choosing drugs, being selfish, and getting ****-canned.

That never happened with Michael.

I'm not saying Michael's actions were less reprehensible, but he did not hurt his teammates.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Nevermind. Already posted.

GOOD POINT... but my point is who won more games with the Dallas Cowboys? Who took us to the playoffs?

 

[Alexander]

Cool, so if you are a great player, do all the drugs you want, you are still a great guy and upstanding teammate. However, smoke pot and have a couple of tuff years, and you are the antichrist.. Makes sense.

That wasn't the point. Talent is the equalizer here. If your talent isn't up to standard, that makes drug issues and personal problems less bearable.

Sad, I suppose. But completely true.

So back to the real question. Since you and others insist he WAS talented, why is he in Canada?

I will keep asking the question until I get an answer.

 

[superpunk]

GOOD POINT... but my point is who won more games with the Dallas Cowboys? Who took us to the playoffs?

Interesting NEW point, since you were hopelessly wrong on your other one.

Things are always nicer with facts.

 

[cobra]

You're the one saying he hurt his teammates. That's how Quincy hurt his teammates, by choosing drugs, being selfish, and getting ****-canned.

That never happened with Michael.

I'm not saying Michael's actions were less reprehensible, but he did not hurt his teammates.

Right on.

Nor did Michael blame other people. Michael took responsibility for his play and his mistakes off the field.

Quincy never took responsibility for his poor play on the field; he blamed his teammates and his coaches. Quincy never took full responsibility for all of his misdeeds off the field either.

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

You're the one saying he hurt his teammates. That's how Quincy hurt his teammates, by choosing drugs, being selfish, and getting ****-canned.

That never happened with Michael.

I'm not saying Michael's actions were less reprehensible, but he did not hurt his teammates.

We have to agree to disagree here. Irvin did all the same things QC did, and more. And it did hurt the team.

How though, do you figure QC hurt the team if he was such a terrible QB? If he was as bad as you guys think, wouldn't he have actually helped the team by getting **** canned?

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

as far as i'm concerned...he broke my trust, and i find it difficult to believe anything he says.

he screwed up.

and by half-a$$ly owning up to it....that tells me he still hasn't grown up.


have fun in the cfl...also known as the 'no one cares' league.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Cool, so if you are a great player, do all the drugs you want, you are still a great guy and upstanding teammate. However, smoke pot and have a couple of tuff years, and you are the antichrist.. Makes sense.

Good point. That's all these delusional fans are saying.. Hey if you have alot of talent smoke all the pot you want, go the amsterdam and get all the hash you want... we wont cut you.. That's the same attitude Parcells had with L.T.

and every football fan knows L.T. did it all...

 

[superpunk]

We have to agree to disagree here. Irvin did all the same things QC did, and more. And it did hurt the team.

How? Enlighten me. How many games did he miss? How many times did he leave us stranded two weeks before the season?

How though, do you figure QC hurt the team if he was such a terrible QB? If he was as bad as you guys think, wouldn't he have actually helped the team by getting **** canned?

Yeah, bringing a brand new QB in two weeks before the season ALWAYS helps the team.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Right on.

Nor did Michael blame other people. Michael took responsibility for his play and his mistakes off the field.

Quincy never took responsibility for his poor play on the field; he blamed his teammates and his coaches. Quincy never took full responsibility for all of his misdeeds off the field either.

But again you saying its alright for Irvin to do it because he confessed up to his mistakes??

 

[cobra]

If he was as bad as you guys think...

Bad as YOU guys think? "You?"

Are you suggesting that only some of the fans here think he is bad?

Not a single team in Football wants QC and he is going to be a backup in the CFL?

Any SANE, RATIONAL football observer thinks QC is a bad NFL quarterback and his current status confirms that.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

How? Enlighten me. How many games did he miss? How many times did he leave us stranded two weeks before the season?



Yeah, bringing a brand new QB in two weeks before the season ALWAYS helps the team.

So you saying Vinny Testaverde help us out a hell of a deal...

Vinny Help his self to break Cowboys records...That's just about it...

 

[Doomsday101]

One thing that keeps getting said but has been denied and reported Irvin never failed a drug test. Irvin was not suspended for drug use he was suspended for conduct.