ARTICLE: Carter happy to be back in pads

[Alexander]

They cut him = they ditched him.. Why is that hard to understand?

Carter chose pot over his teammates. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

[superpunk]

Chances are it will after all there is no drug testing in the CFL so QC does not have to worry too much

It really is the perfect situation for him, isn't it? Why would Smokey McPot ever want to leave? (I love Dude Where's My Car. And so does Quinthy.):laugh2:

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

His point is that it isn't talent.

It is something deeper. More insidious, vile and sordid.

You mean the point that makes no sense since Jerry DRAFTED QC and made him an INSTANT starter on the team.

Or that the incoming head coach let him remain the starting QB and has tried other players at QB (with the jets).

 

[cobra]

Love and adoration? I hardly think that is an accurate description. Did QC kick your dog or steal your lunch money or something? Where else could blatant hatred towards someone you don't even know come from?

Because he was a scumbag who could never take personality responsibility for things that he did. All he ever does is blame other people for his mistakes and his deficiencies. People with that contemptible sort of attitude deserve whatever scorn they receive.

Perhaps you come from a mindset that we must like and support everyone who doesn't kick your dog or steal your money.

I disagree.

People are only worthy of the level of respect and fellow-feeling that their behavior warrants.

Quincy was given every golden chance in life. He was given an opportunity to succeed by being blessed with unique athleticism that only professional athletes possess. But he threw it away. He almost threw it away with his coke problems at UGA, but he was given a second chance. He got the opportunity to play for one of the most storied sports teams in all of sports. Whats more, he was given the opportunity to start at one of the most prized positions in all of sports: QB of the Dallas Cowboys.

But with Quincy, its all about him. He only cares about himself. He would rather get high because that is what he wants to do. He didn't care what effect his personal activities had on his teammates or his fans. It is all about him. That kind of attitude deserves contempt.

And when it became apparent that his skills may not be good enough, he didn't accept responsibility. He accused people of racism. He whined to the coach. He yelled at the person who writes his paychecks. He maintained that the deficiency was not with him, but rather he blamed other people for not treating him fairly. "Fairly"? This person was given every opportunity in life and he says he wasn't treated fairly. It worthy of every amount of derisive scorn you can send his way.

And perhaps worse of all, he divided his team. He divided the fanbase of the team. Because instead of taking personal responsibility, he played the part of a victim and complained which necessarily causes people to divide their support between those that might believe his complaints and those who do not.

All I said was that he worked his *** off for us while he was here. If you want to debate that, bring a sack lunch as you will be in for a long day.

Really? You mean like in the St. Louis game where we had the ball deep in St. Louis territory and were close to scoring. And on 3rd down, QC--the great scrambler--took off with the ball, and instead of taking the hit, he slid 1 yard shy of the first down. We instead had to attempt a field goal which didn't give us the victory. Do you call that hard work and dedication to the team and winning? Do you call the times he complained and demanded meetings with the Coach because he thought the offense was being fair to him "working his *** for us?" What about the practices he had to miss when he was in rehab. Do you think his selfish drug actions which effected his ability to play for his team to be "working his *** for the team?"

If the best thing you can say about the guy is that one off-season he was watching a lot of film, excuse me for not absolving him of all of his defects for that action. If anything, he NEEDED to be in there more than anyone else because his knowledge of the position and mechanics needed the work.

QC voided any right he had to anyone's respect, admiration or support when he still to this day refuses to accept full responsibility for his actions and play. That he plays the victim and blames other is reprehensible conduct.

I'll support any person who plays the game and is respectful of how lucky they are to be there and takes responsibility for their actions. Even when those players may not have the physical gifts, I'll support them. Players like QC are not worthy of support as a fan, and not worthy of support or respect as a human being either due to his own actions.

 

[kartr]

Vinny Testaverde's 2004 sack total-

34

Quincy Carter's 2003 sack total-

37

37>34

2003 defensive oppoenents> 2004.
In 2003 we played against both of the NFC championship teams and beat them both and we played against both of the superbowl teams. We didn't play against any championship caliber teams in 2004, except for the Eagles and we were swept by them..

In Sum, Carter had the tougher schedule, yet got us to the playoffs without a feature rb or a top receiver.

 

[Alexander]

Definitely superior to the Henson/Romo squables. QC debates are epic in nature. This is the Super Bowl of forum debates right here let me tell ya.

Absolutely.

The Romo/Henson wars are simply sparring exercises.

It is the zealots that make for the Carter debates so much fun. God bless you, Kartr and your fellow freedom fighters.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

My defense isn't rabid at all. And yes, he did give it his all, as was evident by the hours he spent at the Ranch trying to improve.

I have a different view on the pot smoking thing. I don't feel like any employer should be able to control what you do on YOUR time. As long as you aren't showing up for work high or on something else, it isn't my business. Again, that is just my opinion and I realize and respect the fact that others don't see it the same way.

you know what? these are the same people that was in president clinton personal life when he go some down low things from Monica Lusinki..

What goes on outside of football is personally none of everybody that watches football business....

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I wouldn't be caught dead wearing a hat like that... Brain, maybe...but not me. Somebody has to adhere to some fashion standards on the mod team.

That said.

This thread is obviously on it's way to the toilet zone as sure as my name is Dub-G. Cuz obviously, some folks STILL can't discuss QC without tossing insults and racial comments.

Yeah, your right. It is very unfortunate. I wish the guy well but in all honesty, he is no longer a part of the team. It simply amazes me how a guy who has been gone for what will be 3 seasons now can create this kind of backlash on both sides. It's obvious that this is about much more then football. That's a shame. This issue cuts deep and it cuts both ways. Doesn't matter which side of the fence you are on, this thing shows a very ugly face. It's sad for QC and the opportunity that he has wasted but it's just as sad for us. He did do this to himself and there is nobody to blame but himself. However, there is also some truth to what he elludes to. There is more there then I think any of us would like to admit. I guess it takes time but I sure hope that we're closer then it seems we might be right here and now. I would like to see the end of this road before my time is up. Don't know that anybody will ever see that time and that's a damn shame.

 

[Alexander]

You mean the point that makes no sense since Jerry DRAFTED QC and made him an INSTANT starter on the team.

Or that the incoming head coach let him remain the starting QB and has tried other players at QB (with the jets).

Makes no sense?

How dare you bring this logic nonsense into the debate? You don't play fair, sir.

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

Carter chose pot over his teammates. Why is that so hard to understand?

Because that is ignorant. Irvin chose coke over his teammates, but he is good so thats ok. Now how silly is that?

 

[Alexander]

Yeah, your right. It is very unfortunate. I wish the guy well but in all honesty, he is no longer a part of the team. It simply amazes me how a guy who has been gone for what will be 3 seasons now can create this kind of backlash on both sides. It's obvious that this is about much more then football. That's a shame. This issue cuts deep and it cuts both ways. Doesn't matter which side of the fence you are on, this thing shows a very ugly face. It's sad for QC and the opportunity that he has wasted but it's just as sad for us. He did do this to himself and there is nobody to blame but himself. However, there is also some truth to what he elludes to. There is more there then I think any of us would like to admit. I guess it takes time but I sure hope that we're closer then it seems we might be right here and now. I would like to see the end of this road before my time is up. Don't know that anybody will ever see that time and that's a damn shame.

It's a sad and tragic footnote in the history of the team. That isn't debateable.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Vinny Testaverde's 2004 sack total-

34

Quincy Carter's 2003 sack total-

37

37>34

LINK?:starspin WHAT IS YOUR SOURCE OF THIS INFORMATION EXCEPT YOURSELF?

 

[superpunk]

Because that is ignorant. Irvin chose coke over his teammates, but he is good so thats ok. Now how silly is that?

We cut Irvin for coke-use?

Where was I in the 90s?????

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

you know what? these are the same people that was in president clinton personal life when he go some down low things from Monica Lusinki..

What goes on outside of football is personally none of everybody that watches football business....

Well, up untill he lied to the country about it. That is when clinton screwed up.

 

[Alexander]

Quincy basically got cut because someone did it.. which was Parcells.. Parcells wanted Vinny Testaverde to start...

:laugh2:

It was a Parcells machination then?

Cowboys went from a 10-6 Playoff season to a 6-10 non-playoff season with Testaverde and we got better with Bledsoe which still wasn't enough to make the playoffs with a 9-7 season...

This getting very good.

So are you implying Carter would have been our missing ingredient last season and got us in the playoffs? Do tell.

 

[Concord]

My defense isn't rabid at all. And yes, he did give it his all, as was evident by the hours he spent at the Ranch trying to improve.

I have a different view on the pot smoking thing. I don't feel like any employer should be able to control what you do on YOUR time. As long as you aren't showing up for work high or on something else, it isn't my business. Again, that is just my opinion and I realize and respect the fact that others don't see it the same way.

I agree wholeheartedly with this.

"Popp said if a player is abusing drugs it will become apparent by his on-field performance."

That's a Crock...Plenty of Players in all of sports smoke Pot and nobody will ever Know.

 

[Alexander]

We cut Irvin for coke-use?

Where was I in the 90s?????

Michael Irvin was a mediocre WR?

What the hell was I watching back then?

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Because that is ignorant. Irvin chose coke over his teammates, but he is good so thats ok. Now how silly is that?

That's saying Henderson did the same thing...

Okay I have a good example... Parcells didn't cut Lawrence Taylor when he knew he was doing cocain, weed, and all the drugs above... Why is that? because that was a original Giant.. Anybody that Parcells drafted or worked with or knew family member that's the players he gives leeway too... saying it's alright you can do it because you are one of my players...

Quincy Carter was never a Parcells player....

 

[superpunk]

[/i]

LINK?:starspin WHAT IS YOUR SOURCE OF THIS INFORMATION EXCEPT YOURSELF?

Here's your links -

Quincy

Vinny

Try not to make any more crap up. I might not be here to save you next time.

 

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

We cut Irvin for coke-use?

Where was I in the 90s?????

Who said anything about Irvin getting cut? But thanks for trying to bust my balls