ARTICLE: NFL can blame itself for scandal's timing

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Good article. I wanted to post this because many had issue w/ Specter stepping in and asking ?'s. I actually applaud the man.

ESPN.COM
By Gregg Easterbrook

The second act of the "Spygate" scandal began late in Super Bowl week. I'd like to drop my Tuesday Morning Quarterback persona and offer some observations on why these events are happening now and what they mean.
First, the timeline: The initial incident happened in September. After the New England Patriots were caught violating league rules by filming the New York Jets' sideline during a Week 1 game, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell stripped New England of a first-round draft choice, fined the team $250,000, fined coach Bill Belichick $500,000 and issued a harsh statement saying the Patriots' actions constituted a "calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid long-standing rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition."




Belichick responded with a brief apology that referred only to sideline taping during games. Then, the first of many strange things happened. Goodell went on national television and implied the Patriots were dragging their feet about his order to hand over other cheating materials; he threatened them with more penalties. And then, the second of many strange things happened. Four days later, the NFL announced it had destroyed all cheating materials and refused to say what had been destroyed.


From that moment in late September until Friday, the NFL never answered the questions of exactly what the Patriots did and why the evidence was destroyed. People, including me, put these questions to NFL spokesman Greg Aiello and to Goodell, but were told the league would not reveal what was in the destroyed evidence. In December, The New York Times pressed the NFL to say what was in the destroyed materials, and again, the league refused. At his annual state of the league address Friday, Goodell made his first public comments about the destroyed evidence.

So, if you are a New England supporter, or simply a sports fan, wondering, "Why is all this coming out right before the Super Bowl?" the answer is, "Because the NFL would not answer the questions until Goodell was in front of the media this week." Some of this information might have emerged weeks or months ago, had the NFL not acted as if there were something to hide on the tapes.

ESPN and other outlets have been working on Spygate stories for weeks or longer, and all competing to be first with any further revelations. I can assure you there was no attempt to time this to the Super Bowl. Far from it.
Flash back to September. After the league made its strange decision to destroy the materials, then refused to say what they contained, several media figures, including me, did this Journalism 101 exercise: Current scandal involves current taping by the Patriots. Are there any former Patriots video officials from New England's Super Bowl runs? That led to a former New England scout and video department official named Matt Walsh, who now lives in Hawaii. Simultaneously, the NFL grapevine was alive with rumors -- caution, rumors -- that the Patriots were guilty not just of taping sidelines during games but rather of much more serious transgressions. The primary rumor, which was reported Saturday by the Boston Herald, was that the Patriots secretly taped the St. Louis Rams' private walk-through before Super Bowl XXXVI, that the Pats knew some of the Rams' plays and formations in advance.

Taping from the sidelines during games, although forbidden, is regarded as a minor violation of the rules. Secret taping of a Super Bowl opponent's practice, if true, would be much more serious.

Throughout the fall, I, as well as other journalists, had many conversations with Walsh. He would not say he taped the Rams' walk-through, but he would not deny it, either. He would not go on the record about what he knows.
Late in Super Bowl week, Walsh agreed with ESPN and the Times to go on the record as saying he knows damaging information about the Patriots that he will reveal if asked by the NFL. Walsh further noted that, although the NFL announced it had investigated New England's videotaping practices, the league had never spoken to him. People are right to be skeptical about Walsh's saying he knows something damning but not revealing it. Walsh says he fears legal retaliation by the Patriots because he signed a non-disclosure agreement when he left the team. He has been advised by an attorney that he will be on firmer ground if he reveals what he knows only at the request of the NFL or Congress.

Simultaneously, the Times learned that Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania -- the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, which has some jurisdiction over the NFL's precious antitrust exemption -- wants to hold hearings on why the material collected in the NFL's investigation was destroyed.

Think Congress has no business investigating sports? Most NFL teams play in publicly subsidized stadiums, and NFL games are aired over public airwaves controlled by federal licenses. The licenses, among other things, prohibit any pre-arrangement or artifice in what is presented as live competition. If a Super Bowl were affected by cheating, that would be a legitimate matter of concern to Congress. Plus, the recent lesson learned via baseball and steroids was that Major League Baseball did not clean up its own house until Congress put some pressure on.

At his annual Super Bowl news conference Friday, Goodell was peppered with questions about why the New England materials were destroyed. This was painful to watch; the NFL is an image-based enterprise, yet painted itself into a public relations corner by acting in a high-handed, suspicious way. If Goodell had been forthright about the tapes in the first place, perhaps no one would be spoiling the Super Bowl party.

At the news conference, Goodell disclosed several things the NFL previously had refused to discuss. He said that only six tapes and some notes had been turned over to the league by the Patriots, not voluminous materials, as had been assumed; that the tapes all contained only in-game film of opponents' sidelines; and that the oldest tape was from the 2006 regular season, with nothing before that year. Goodell went on to say several times that attempting to steal sideline signals during games is common in football and, although not encouraged, is viewed as an occupational hazard in the sport. Goodell also asserted the Patriots' questionable activities did not alter the outcome of any game.

Goodell's remarks were puzzling in several respects. First, if the Patriots were guilty only of occasional sideline taping, this would seem to merit a letter of reprimand. So why were the Patriots hit with the harshest fine in NFL history? When the scandal first broke, Goodell used extremely strong language about New England's sins. Now, he was implying the whole thing was no big deal.
Next, Goodell did not clarify whether the league had asked only for sideline tapes taken during games or whether this was all the Patriots volunteered. If New England gave the league only video taken from the sidelines during games, plus notes developed from such videos, there would be no evidence of really serious cheating, such as clandestine taping of other teams' walk-throughs.

Finally, Goodell declared that the materials the league destroyed contained no evidence of Super Bowl cheating. But the material went back only to 2006. The Patriots' Super Bowl wins came in 2002, 2004 and 2005. Of course the material contained no evidence of Super Bowl cheating! Did the league ask just for materials dating to 2006, or was that all the Patriots volunteered? Either way, it is more than curious that the league inspected one tape from this season and the rest, materials from a year when the Patriots did not appear in a Super Bowl.

Saturday morning, the Boston Herald ran a story asserting the Patriots secretly taped the Rams' private walk-through before Super Bowl XXXVI. The Herald cited an unnamed source and did not name Walsh as the person behind the camera.




Also Saturday, Mike Fish reported on ESPN that St. Louis' walk-through was devoted to red zone plays -- all new plays and new formations the Rams had not shown during the season. Going into that Super Bowl, the Rams' "Greatest Show on Turf" was the league's highest-scoring team.

In that game, St. Louis was held to a field goal in the first half. The Rams kept getting bogged down, as if New England knew what plays were coming. If the Patriots secretly taped the Rams' walk-through, then stopped the red zone plays the Rams showed in that walk-through, then won that Super Bowl by three points, then logic says New England materially benefited from cheating in the Super Bowl. If true, this would be the worst sports scandal since the Black Sox.


Let's put that in capital letters: IF TRUE. We don't yet know whether the Super Bowl allegations are true. Then again, we are into only the second day of information going on the record and the league finally answering some questions about the subject.

The Patriots, for their part, are denying the allegations.

"The suggestion that the New England Patriots recorded the St. Louis Rams' walk-through on the day before Super Bowl XXXVI is absolutely false," Patriots spokesman Stacey James said. "Any suggestion to the contrary is untrue."

Here's another unanswered question. If the materials the Patriots turned over and the league destroyed really were just six sideline videos and some notes, that's pretty innocuous. So why didn't the NFL reveal what was destroyed? If the materials really were minor stuff, why the months of "No comment"?


When news of the second act of Spygate hit the sports world Friday, there was considerable backlash. Many radio and TV analysts initially reacted angrily, as if to say, "This is our private universe. In our private universe, everything is perfect. Keep reality out." But if you love athletic competition, if you want sports to be important and generate lots of money and attention, the games must be honest. Any indication of dishonesty should be deeply unsettling.

Footnote: The Giants held a final walk-through for Super Bowl XLII on Saturday, but the Patriots did not.
 

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You destroy the tapes, you're gonna face scrutiny...Simple as that
 

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Goodel should just ask the Patriots for their backup copies and then act like they had it all backed up "in case"
And then proceed to state no such tapes exist. Prove it :)
 

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If Walsh has copies of the Rams' walk through, the Pats should have the championship for that year taken away and given to St. Louis.
 

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Goodell also asserted the Patriots' questionable activities did not alter the outcome of any game.

Now how can he state that, how would anyone know that unless the games are staged ? WWF anyone ???

Nors;1942813 said:
Goodel should just ask the Patriots for their backup copies and then act like they had it all backed up "in case"
And then proceed to state no such tapes exist. Prove it :)

This is great, your team in going down baby !!!
 

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Bob Sacamano;1942840 said:
1st, losing the Super Bowl

next, more fines and picks being taken away

Oh bob you say it like its a negative :D
 

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Think Congress has no business investigating sports? Most NFL teams play in publicly subsidized stadiums, and NFL games are aired over public airwaves controlled by federal licenses. The licenses, among other things, prohibit any pre-arrangement or artifice in what is presented as live competition. If a Super Bowl were affected by cheating, that would be a legitimate matter of concern to Congress. Plus, the recent lesson learned via baseball and steroids was that Major League Baseball did not clean up its own house until Congress put some pressure on.

I like the bait and switch being applied here.

First, who said Congress has no business investigating sports? No one has made that claim. Rather, many question whether Congress has the "right" to investigate this issue.

Second, what "pre-arrangement" was being done in this case? The Patriots didn't "fix" any game, unlike a gambling conspiracy. And neither did the league.

Third, citing Major League Baseball and comparing it to this situation is as bogus as trying to insinuate that destroying CIA tapes is the same as destroying these illegally obtained tapes. :rolleyes:

The reasons Congress stepped into Major League Baseball are because ...

a.) Steroids is a public health issue and ...
b.) Baseball refused to inact any disciplinary measures to regulate or prevent steroid use among players.

Spygate is not a public health issue and whether you agree with the punishment or not, Goodell punished the Patriots in such a way that other teams will think twice about violating the league's policy because it will involve losing a precious high-round draft pick.

Furthermore, despite conspiracy theories, there is absolutely no evidence Goodell colluded with the Patriots to lessen their punishment or to destroy the tapes. (This was precedent setting. What example is the Commissioner suppose to go on?) And he left the door open to bring further punishment against the Patriots if new allegations/revelations surface.

Nevertheless, politics being what it is, there will be an investigation. But that doesn't suggest that Specter is correct anymore than it suggests a police officer is correct or is right when he stops you simply because he suspects you might be driving fast.

What are you going to do when he asks you to stop? Say you don't have the right to do that, even though you know he doesn't?

Power always has the upper hand, even when it abuses its authority.

But let the investigations begin. If anything more comes of them, I'll apologize and say I was wrong. If not, I'll call it a political witch hunt.
 

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dogberry;1942833 said:
If Walsh has copies of the Rams' walk through, the Pats should have the championship for that year taken away and given to St. Louis.

It won't happen. So that remedy is unrealistic.
 

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Jarv;1942839 said:
Now how can he state that, how would anyone know that unless the games are staged ? WWF anyone ???

Exactly. He wouldn't know. But neither would we know whether taping the Rams walkthrough resulted in a Patriots win.

There's no way to know that. And that is why any suggestion that they forfeit the 2001-02 Super Bowl is ridiculous.

From what I understand the walk through involved plays the Rams were to use in the red zone. But the Rams didn't get in the red zone that often in that game, if my memory serves me right. That game, at one point, was 17-3 Patriots.

And the Patriots largely beat the Rams because they played the Rams small receivers physically. And taping a team's walkthrough on offense didn't have any impact on Brady marching the Patriots to a game-winning field goal.
 

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Well it has to be proven, first, and once it is I don't imagine they'll lose more than another pick or two. Probably another 250k fine for the team (Which is the max they can levy on the team) and possibly more fines on Bill. I highly doubt the validity of the rumor that he'd get a year suspension, mainly cause he'd just dodge that by retiring.
 

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Jarv;1942839 said:
Now how can he state that, how would anyone know that unless the games are staged ? WWF anyone ???



This is great, your team in going down baby !!!

Great, more draft picks for Dallas - could care less what Pats do. Sucks Giants owned us in playoffs and won a SB and you hear it where you live. With family deeply rooted in NYC and born on Long Island and spent early years in Bethel, CT. - NOT A GREAT PLACE TO GROW UP A DALLAS FAN.......

Kahoots wings are good and a view.:)
 

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Goodell is beginning to feel the heat. He badly mishandled Spygate.

For those saying Specter and Congress have no business in this matter, there is a little thing known as the Commerce Clause in the U.S. Constitution which specifically grants power to Congress to regulate commerce among the states. Even though we think of football as nothing but a game, the fact is it is a huge, muti-billion dollar U.S. business (commerce).

If this guy Walsh in Hawaii spills the beans on the Rams taping allegation and possibly other incidents this could get interesting since Specter isn't going away and he wants answers.
 

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tyke1doe;1942907 said:
I like the bait and switch being applied here.

First, who said Congress has no business investigating sports? No one has made that claim. Rather, many question whether Congress has the "right" to investigate this issue.

Second, what "pre-arrangement" was being done in this case? The Patriots didn't "fix" any game, unlike a gambling conspiracy. And neither did the league.

Third, citing Major League Baseball and comparing it to this situation is as bogus as trying to insinuate that destroying CIA tapes is the same as destroying these illegally obtained tapes. :rolleyes:

The reasons Congress stepped into Major League Baseball are because ...

a.) Steroids is a public health issue and ...
b.) Baseball refused to inact any disciplinary measures to regulate or prevent steroid use among players.

Spygate is not a public health issue and whether you agree with the punishment or not, Goodell punished the Patriots in such a way that other teams will think twice about violating the league's policy because it will involve losing a precious high-round draft pick.

Furthermore, despite conspiracy theories, there is absolutely no evidence Goodell colluded with the Patriots to lessen their punishment or to destroy the tapes. (This was precedent setting. What example is the Commissioner suppose to go on?) And he left the door open to bring further punishment against the Patriots if new allegations/revelations surface.

Nevertheless, politics being what it is, there will be an investigation. But that doesn't suggest that Specter is correct anymore than it suggests a police officer is correct or is right when he stops you simply because he suspects you might be driving fast.

What are you going to do when he asks you to stop? Say you don't have the right to do that, even though you know he doesn't?

Power always has the upper hand, even when it abuses its authority.

But let the investigations begin. If anything more comes of them, I'll apologize and say I was wrong. If not, I'll call it a political witch hunt.

You being a reporter (like you claim :rolleyes: ) and trying to critique this w/o any knowledge of anything regarding the situation, is comedy.

Please don't come into threads acting the all knowing power? That schtick is getting REALLY old.

And no - you would never come back and apologize, no matter the outcome, like you claim. So please don't even go there.:rolleyes:

So do us a favor. Stick to addressing spelling errors and grammar errors of posters on the boards here and leave the national scene to those who may know a bit more.

Thank you.

Dallas
 

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Dallas;1942932 said:
You being a reporter (like you claim :rolleyes: ) and trying to critique this w/o any knowledge of anything regarding the situation, is comedy.

Please don't come into threads acting the all knowing power? That schtick is getting REALLY old.

And no - you would never come back and apologize, no matter the outcome, like you claim. So please don't even go there.:rolleyes:

So do us a favor. Stick to addressing spelling errors and grammar errors of posters on the boards here and leave the national scene to those who may know a bit more.

Thank you.

Dallas

:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

But according to his logic, it doesn't really matter. There is no way to prove the taping helped the Patriots win, because there are too many factors involved in a game to cause a team to win. They can only punish the "illegality of the act"...
 

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Dallas;1942932 said:
You being a reporter (like you claim :rolleyes: ) and trying to critique this w/o any knowledge of anything regarding the situation, is comedy.

Please don't come into threads acting the all knowing power? That schtick is getting REALLY old.

And no - you would never come back and apologize, no matter the outcome, like you claim. So please don't even go there.:rolleyes:

So do us a favor. Stick to addressing spelling errors and grammar errors of posters on the boards here and leave the national scene to those who may know a bit more.

Thank you.

Dallas

Wow. You're taking this personally aren't you?

I'm sorry you got your feelings hurt because I gave my opinion on a message board. Sorry, it doesn't match yours. Sorry, I'm able to make articulate arguments that make me sound like a "know it all." (As if most people pontificating on subjects passionately don't act the same way.) :rolleyes:

But fret not yourself. You'll get over it, though. ;) :D
 

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khiladi;1942949 said:
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

But according to his logic, it doesn't really matter. There is no way to prove the taping helped the Patriots win, because there are too many factors involved in a game to cause a team to win. They can only punish the "illegality of the act"...


Which is basically what Goodell concluded. But what does he know? He's only the Commissioner of the NFL. While you're what? A message board poster just like myself.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
 

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tyke1doe;1942956 said:
Which is basically what Goodell concluded. But what does he know? He's only the Commissioner of the NFL. While you're what? A message board poster just like myself.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

Of course, it doesn't matter if they taped a game or not, right? because we all know that even if they knew every single play, that still wouldn't be enough, according to your logic, to prove it helped them win a game...

The fact that your using Godell being the Commisioner of the NFL as proof that it didn't help the Patriots, when the very issue at stake is whether Godell is lying or not, just shows how blinded you are. You have dug so deep into defending the Patriots, to turn around now would be too much a blow to your ego...

How did it feel watching the Patreiots lose when the refs didn't make a momentum changing calls because the whole world was watching in light of Specter?
 

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khiladi;1942961 said:
Of course, it doesn't matter if they taped a game or not, right? because we all know that even if they knew every single play, that still wouldn't be enough, according to your logic, to prove it helped them win a game...

It does matter if they taped the games. That's why they got punished. :rolleyes:

But you can't strip them of the win because there's no way to prove that by taping they won the game.

Furthermore, the portion alleged to have been taped - the Rams walk through of their red zone plays - had nothing to do with the last minute drive executed by Brady and the Pats, which led to the last-minute field goal.

But we'll see. :)
 

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tyke1doe;1942963 said:
It does matter if they taped the games. That's why they got punished. :rolleyes:

But you can't strip them of the win because there's no way to prove that by taping they won the game.

Furthermore, the portion alleged to have been taped - the Rams walk through of their red zone plays - had nothing to do with the last minute drive executed by Brady and the Pats, which led to the last-minute field goal.

But we'll see. :)

Again, your once again operating under a false premise, and this time it is the Rams only practiced red-zone plays in the walk-through.

Again, how can they get punished for an act that you claim doesn't effect the game?

Further, the fact that you keep saying this:

But you can't strip them of the win because there's no way to prove that by taping they won the game.
Is just plain ********... If you tell that to a college that fails you because you had the answers to the test in your pant pocket, they will laugh in your face...

By your logic, that doesn't prove that you actually cheated...
 
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