ARTICLE: "This Vicious Rumor that's been Started..." (Jason Witten)

[iceberg]

you are only reading what the media prints..... you don't know the tone of that guys statement..... I'm sure you'd feel bad if someone was dragging you through the mud!

get off your high horse!

sorry - but i agree with this assesment.

when i read the story it was all about witten for the most part. his involvement or non-involvement were the sole focus. when i was done, i didn't know much, if anything, about the victim and the overall tragedy that took place. it was like the focus was the blame on witten NOT the death of innocent people.

i'm glad witten wasn't involved and yes, not fair to him his name got dragged into it. but when people know your name, it can and will happen if for no other reason than they *do* know it.

let's find out what happened on the story itself and the blame will in the end fall where it belonds.

 

[iceberg]

maybe I'm just expecting a bit more class and less self-centered talk

i can understand the defense of a name - we all can. but i do agree the focus went on witten not on the accidental deaths. in the end witten wasn't around or involved so getting upset someone blames you for something you didn't do is kinda a waste of time. easy to understand the need for defense/difusing the situation, but i don't understand the focus on witten vs. the tragedy itself.

 

[Angus]

Well, it depends on how badly your ox is gored.

 

[Funxva]

i can understand the defense of a name - we all can. but i do agree the focus went on witten not on the accidental deaths. in the end witten wasn't around or involved so getting upset someone blames you for something you didn't do is kinda a waste of time. easy to understand the need for defense/difusing the situation, but i don't understand the focus on witten vs. the tragedy itself.

That is fine. But I'm disagreeing with the fact that he is getting upset at Witten, as if Witten asked all the reporters to beat down his door.

I think any normal human being when accused of a heinous crime, and asked about their involvement in that crime, when innocent would sing it from the rooftops. I know I would.

 

[Rack]

Someone is dead -- and these guys are complaining about how a rumor affects them.

I'm sorry but that is pretty damn shallow and self-centered.

 

[iceberg]

That is fine. But I'm disagreeing with the fact that he is getting upset at Witten, as if Witten asked all the reporters to beat down his door.

I think any normal human being when accused of a heinous crime, and asked about their involvement in that crime, when innocent would sing it from the rooftops. I know I would.

agreed - my focus is on the media i suppose and their warping the story outside the context of what it is hoping to find a "bad cowboy". not sure about singing to the rooftops, i'd just say "not me, keep looking" and not get overly involved.

 

[Big Dakota]

Someone is dead and THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Now their names are being dragged through the mud, it can (and likely will) affect them financially (Grindstaff is a businessman; people will take their business elsewhere...Witten could lose endorsements over this) and their kids are being drawn into the situation. While it is a shame that the man died there is no reason that anyone else should have to silently suffer the injustice of false accusations. Allowing themselves to have their names besmirched will not bring back the dead man...they have very right to be angry.

EXACTLY!! How can ANYONE call another person shallow when they have absolutely no idea what went down in that comunity?? :blind:

 

[1fisher]

given all the words coming out of their mouths you'd expect a larger proportion to be devoted to how unfortunate this incident was. this is not the time to complain about how a rumor affects your family when someone else's family is a bit more permanently and severly impacted

a larger portion??? How many articles have you read about this incident? ONE? I'm sure if you pick up the Elizabethton Gazette (or whatever the local paper is) you'll read more articles about the person who was killed and how tragic it was/is. There you will find a larger proportion devoted to the victim. This is one story of the person(s) NOT involved. I would expect him to defend himself! I would..... and I suspect you would too......

 

[1fisher]

EXACTLY!! How can ANYONE call another person shallow when they have absolutely no idea what went down in that comunity?? :blind:

agreed..... THAT is pretty shallow to me!

 

[1fisher]

agreed - my focus is on the media i suppose and their warping the story outside the context of what it is hoping to find a "bad cowboy". not sure about singing to the rooftops, i'd just say "not me, keep looking" and not get overly involved.

precisely

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Someone is dead -- and these guys are complaining about how a rumor affects them.

I'm sorry but that is pretty damn shallow and self-centered.

because they are innocent. How about you was accused of killing a man and then going away from the scene, would you want everybody saying yeah he did it? Would atleast do what they did? What would you do?

 

[burmafrd]

some of this holier then thou stuff I read here makes me puke. We have no idea what questions were asked or what was edited out for the piece to go to print. Some here have no idea what its like to become infamous or be accused of something you haven't done. Years ago a cabinet secretary was totally aquitted- thejudge even went so far as to call the prosecuter a glory hunting moron for basically making up a case. BUT the secretary had spent over a year being called everything under the sun. When he came out after the judge dismissed the case he asked the gathered media>"You are the experts- just where do I go to get back my reputation and the good name I had before this all happened". Not a reply came back from the gathered media. Then the secretary walked away and the media in some of their write ups complained that he had not answered their questions.

 

[Concord]

Someone is dead -- and these guys are complaining about how a rumor affects them.

I'm sorry but that is pretty damn shallow and self-centered.

That's got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.

They are being blamed for someones DEATH.

They didn't do it...Hence you SCREAM from the rooftop about it.

 

[AbeBeta]

That's got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.

They are being blamed for someones DEATH.

They didn't do it...Hence you SCREAM from the rooftop about it.

BS. Someone's name being attached to a rumor is so minor compared to someone dying. If you are not to blame, that will come out in the wash.

Some of you need to get past the "there is no way I'm having my name dragged through the mud" chest thumping.

 

[1fisher]

BS. Someone's name being attached to a rumor is so minor compared to someone dying. If you are not to blame, that will come out in the wash.

Some of you need to get past the "there is no way I'm having my name dragged through the mud" chest thumping.

It's not chest thumping....... get off your high horse! If a reporter asked you a direct question how would you answer? Also, I'm sure there was a LOT of the conversation that was not printed.

 

[burmafrd]

"that will come out in the wash"
Where have you been living for the last 10 years or so?
If someone is cleared its on page 18- when the first story was on page one.
All many remember is that YOU WERE INVOLVED. Not that several days later you were totally cleared.

 

[iceberg]

That's got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.

They are being blamed for someones DEATH.

They didn't do it...Hence you SCREAM from the rooftop about it.

not sure who said it but doesn't it go "being louder doesn't makt it more right". why scream it out? if you didn't do it just say "not me" and as has been pointed out - let it come out as details follow. to "scream it out" is kinda overreacting *if* you're really innocent.

 

[iceberg]

"that will come out in the wash"
Where have you been living for the last 10 years or so?
If someone is cleared its on page 18- when the first story was on page one.
All many remember is that YOU WERE INVOLVED. Not that several days later you were totally cleared.

and when has shouting and panicing and running around like a TE w/his head cut off has that ever changed the page 18 you refer to?

 

[Concord]

BS. Someone's name being attached to a rumor is so minor compared to someone dying. If you are not to blame, that will come out in the wash.

Some of you need to get past the "there is no way I'm having my name dragged through the mud" chest thumping.

People Die everyday...It's a fact of Life.

Being accused of killing that person when YOU DID NOT DO IT...And NOT Screaming about it...Is Crazy...Just like you are on this subject.

 

[Concord]

not sure who said it but doesn't it go "being louder doesn't makt it more right". why scream it out? if you didn't do it just say "not me" and as has been pointed out - let it come out as details follow. to "scream it out" is kinda overreacting *if* you're really innocent.

BS if I'm not guilty I'm SCREAMING from the top of my lungs...Because Obviously saying "Not me" hasn't worked.

Beside the fact that he's being accused of causing someones DEATH!

We're not talking about a MVA Fender bender...This is big and it's going to affect him.