As a well-known Dak hater, I have to admit something I was wrong about

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Dak has turned it around from the piss poor performance of last year. Let's hope it continues, since we can't run the ball Dak will have to play hero ball.
If you look at the receiver corps of last year compared to the receiver corps of this year then hopefully you will understand it wasn't piss poor performance all on Dak last year. CeeDee was adjusting to the No. 1 receiver role, the supporting receiver cast wasn't all that great. The tight ends were still a work in progress.
 

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Dak is a good QB who does dumb things sometimes and who at times appears to be confused. Too many stretches where he just can't move the ball.

What he really needs is a strong run game to lean on, like Russell Wilson when he won the super bowl. Wilson has always lacked consistency, which has always been wildly apparent. It was the strangest thing that DEN didn't appear to know this.

Can Dak be good enough? Not if we go into the season w/ a backup starting at RB and our OL dependent on an oft injured underachiever(Chuma) and a 5th round project(Richards). That simply cannot happen if we ever want to go on a nice playoff run.
Russell Wilson and Dak aren’t even similar in how they play and never have been. Not sure why that is your chosen comparison.
 

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But nobody looks at our run game or run defense. If we lose, it’s on Dak! He makes $40M!! He has to win games!! Says Mahomes and Josh Allen who are 10-6….
Yep that’s bc he has already had his time with a great run game, the o line has aged but he had them for eight years, and now those resources are part of his 40million. Dak needs to prove it this year in playoffs, no one cares until then except for the homers that did it last year as well. We will lose in first or second round and homers will make another excuse. He’s s so great but can’t hit a wide open cooks two weeks in a row? He’s so good he keeps taking sacks, the same thing happens to Goff with Micah what did he do? He ducked and slipped giving himself more time. Most QBs can avoid one player coming full speed and then get rid of ball or throw it away…what they won’t continue to do is take 8+ yard losses every week. Now we are to blaming it on run defense.lol. The niners game the last two years that defense gave up 23 points and 19 points all the while Daks played like poopoo. Those are the facts so we can keep on making excuses or just accept that Dak has always been ok in regular season unfortunately he has been abysmal in playoffs.
If you look at the receiver corps of last year compared to the receiver corps of this year then hopefully you will understand it wasn't piss poor performance all on Dak last year. CeeDee was adjusting to the No. 1 receiver role, the supporting receiver cast wasn't all that great. The tight ends were still a work in progress.
This is another example of excuses, let’s only look at last year, what about when he had Cooper, Ceedee, and Zeke? What about those years do we just accept that they don’t count. Ceedee played like a number 1 all last year, the only ones making excuses were the homers I.e he ran the wrong route..tell ya what he didn’t run the wrong route bc if he would have run the one the homers wanted Dak would’ve put him in a body bag. Dak will never look off a receiver to help him gain separation, he will never get past second read, or do anything any other QB that provided the same talent could t do.

This year is the prove it year. Every other year doesn’t matter if he finally advances to nfcc. The other years don’t matter if he can play at high level in playoffs and not turn into

i pray i can come back and eat my words but if history has taught us anything Dak will under perform again in playoffs. Till then this talk about praises needs to stop as it inly leads to arguments.
 

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I never thought Dak had the ability to beat good teams off the strength of his arm. He has now done it in 3 consecutive home games against playoff teams with absolutely no running game.

One can argue that they all were bad defenses but those teams are coming into the game knowing we have no threat of a run game and he is still feasting in the passing game

Listen to what you posted HOME GAMES, what is he doing on the road, what do we need him to do on the road????
 

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Dak is a good QB who does dumb things sometimes and who at times appears to be confused. Too many stretches where he just can't move the ball.

What he really needs is a strong run game to lean on, like Russell Wilson when he won the super bowl. Wilson has always lacked consistency, which has always been wildly apparent. It was the strangest thing that DEN didn't appear to know this.

Can Dak be good enough? Not if we go into the season w/ a backup starting at RB and our OL dependent on an oft injured underachiever(Chuma) and a 5th round project(Richards). That simply cannot happen if we ever want to go on a nice playoff run.
1 yard dump off plays to the RB's baffles me every time, might as well just throw it out of bounds
 

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Yep that’s bc he has already had his time with a great run game, the o line has aged but he had them for eight years, and now those resources are part of his 40million. Dak needs to prove it this year in playoffs, no one cares until then except for the homers that did it last year as well. We will lose in first or second round and homers will make another excuse. He’s s so great but can’t hit a wide open cooks two weeks in a row? He’s so good he keeps taking sacks, the same thing happens to Goff with Micah what did he do? He ducked and slipped giving himself more time. Most QBs can avoid one player coming full speed and then get rid of ball or throw it away…what they won’t continue to do is take 8+ yard losses every week. Now we are to blaming it on run defense.lol. The niners game the last two years that defense gave up 23 points and 19 points all the while Daks played like poopoo. Those are the facts so we can keep on making excuses or just accept that Dak has always been ok in regular season unfortunately he has been abysmal in playoffs.

This is another example of excuses, let’s only look at last year, what about when he had Cooper, Ceedee, and Zeke? What about those years do we just accept that they don’t count. Ceedee played like a number 1 all last year, the only ones making excuses were the homers I.e he ran the wrong route..tell ya what he didn’t run the wrong route bc if he would have run the one the homers wanted Dak would’ve put him in a body bag. Dak will never look off a receiver to help him gain separation, he will never get past second read, or do anything any other QB that provided the same talent could t do.

This year is the prove it year. Every other year doesn’t matter if he finally advances to nfcc. The other years don’t matter if he can play at high level in playoffs and not turn into

i pray i can come back and eat my words but if history has taught us anything Dak will under perform again in playoffs. Till then this talk about praises needs to stop as it inly leads to arguments.
Those niner games Dak has to play better, but the running game also needs to do something inthose games. We have literally gotten nothing from the running game whenever we play the 49ers. I feel like it is always third and long in those games.

Dak's stats in the playoff are pretty resepctable- are they as good as the regular season? NO- but, that is the case for all QBs when they go on the road and play top 3 defenses in the playoffs. Our issue in the playoffs has really been our extremely poor run defense which is unable to stop anyone when needed, leading to us being off the field forever and our running offense never being able to do anything.

I would hope that if we are at San Fran again at some point, that we begin to take advntage of Dak's legs more.

Also, Zeke was about the worst running back in football last year so I don't think it's fair to use him as evidence that Dak underperformed because he had Zeke.
 

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I never thought Dak had the ability to beat good teams off the strength of his arm. He has now done it in 3 consecutive home games against playoff teams with absolutely no running game.

One can argue that they all were bad defenses but those teams are coming into the game knowing we have no threat of a run game and he is still feasting in the passing game
It's simple......if you were/are a Dak-hater......your viewpoint would be clouded, tainted, void of objectivity and expecting him to overcome other's mistakes too. It's really that simple WillieBeamen. Just need to give it some thought.
 

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I never thought Dak had the ability to beat good teams off the strength of his arm. He has now done it in 3 consecutive home games against playoff teams with absolutely no running game.

One can argue that they all were bad defenses but those teams are coming into the game knowing we have no threat of a run game and he is still feasting in the passing game
I'm just curious.....what do you see differently about him now as opposed to the first of the season?
 

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Those niner games Dak has to play better, but the running game also needs to do something inthose games. We have literally gotten nothing from the running game whenever we play the 49ers. I feel like it is always third and long in those games.

Dak's stats in the playoff are pretty resepctable- are they as good as the regular season? NO- but, that is the case for all QBs when they go on the road and play top 3 defenses in the playoffs. Our issue in the playoffs has really been our extremely poor run defense which is unable to stop anyone when needed, leading to us being off the field forever and our running offense never being able to do anything.

I would hope that if we are at San Fran again at some point, that we begin to take advntage of Dak's legs more.

Also, Zeke was about the worst running back in football last year so I don't think it's fair to use him as evidence that Dak underperformed because he had Zeke.
Dak and his offense inability to keep and move the ball, score points...on the road causes the defense serious problems.
But of course some of it is d personnel and scheme. But being on the field so much and fighting from behind makes it way worse.
 

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I never thought Dak had the ability to beat good teams off the strength of his arm. He has now done it in 3 consecutive home games against playoff teams with absolutely no running game.

One can argue that they all were bad defenses but those teams are coming into the game knowing we have no threat of a run game and he is still feasting in the passing game
I'm with you. I too was very critical of him at every chance I got. He made some stupid good passes against the Lions. We can't be that one dimensional. I don't even blame him for the pick he threw. Because it wasn't a bad decision. He just thought he could beat the safety with his arm, and clearly he couldn't. It was a bad choice, not a stupid throw.
 

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I never thought Dak had the ability to beat good teams off the strength of his arm. He has now done it in 3 consecutive home games against playoff teams with absolutely no running game.

One can argue that they all were bad defenses but those teams are coming into the game knowing we have no threat of a run game and he is still feasting in the passing game
He has played very well and it appears a 2 seed is gifted to the Cowboys so a home game against a low end team will make it possible for a very good playoff run.
 

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We waited 8 years for him to accomplish this.
8 years.............hmmmmm
Look on the bright side as we are home for the playoffs facing a couple of Dogs (our specialty) then worst case scenario we have to go the SF and please tell me I won't be hearing another "We will do better speeches" after the game?
P.S. The refs have been saving us all year long........heck even CD looks around after every non-completion for the P/I call.
Enjoy the ride as the NFC has never been weaker and our luck stronger.........Cowboys!!!!
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I'm just curious.....what do you see differently about him now as opposed to the first of the season?
Last season Dak and Co. lost to the 49ers in the divisional round of the playoffs. The second season in a row that the 49ers ended our season. The difference in this season is that hasn't happened yet. :cool:
 

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I'm just curious.....what do you see differently about him now as opposed to the first of the season?
-navigating the pocket (see the 92 yrd TD)

-looking for Ceedee early and often

-more decisiveness

-using his mobility to extend

I am by no means fully changing my stance on him as there are still elements of his game that i am not a fan of, but a lot of the talking points that existed for 8 years he kinda quieted
 

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-navigating the pocket (see the 92 yrd TD)

-looking for Ceedee early and often

-more decisiveness

-using his mobility to extend

I am by no means fully changing my stance on him as there are still elements of his game that i am not a fan of, but a lot of the talking points that existed for 8 years he kinda quieted
Good post
 

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Yep that’s bc he has already had his time with a great run game, the o line has aged but he had them for eight years, and now those resources are part of his 40million. Dak needs to prove it this year in playoffs, no one cares until then except for the homers that did it last year as well. We will lose in first or second round and homers will make another excuse. He’s s so great but can’t hit a wide open cooks two weeks in a row? He’s so good he keeps taking sacks, the same thing happens to Goff with Micah what did he do? He ducked and slipped giving himself more time. Most QBs can avoid one player coming full speed and then get rid of ball or throw it away…what they won’t continue to do is take 8+ yard losses every week. Now we are to blaming it on run defense.lol. The niners game the last two years that defense gave up 23 points and 19 points all the while Daks played like poopoo. Those are the facts so we can keep on making excuses or just accept that Dak has always been ok in regular season unfortunately he has been abysmal in playoffs.

This is another example of excuses, let’s only look at last year, what about when he had Cooper, Ceedee, and Zeke? What about those years do we just accept that they don’t count. Ceedee played like a number 1 all last year, the only ones making excuses were the homers I.e he ran the wrong route..tell ya what he didn’t run the wrong route bc if he would have run the one the homers wanted Dak would’ve put him in a body bag. Dak will never look off a receiver to help him gain separation, he will never get past second read, or do anything any other QB that provided the same talent could t do.

This year is the prove it year. Every other year doesn’t matter if he finally advances to nfcc. The other years don’t matter if he can play at high level in playoffs and not turn into

i pray i can come back and eat my words but if history has taught us anything Dak will under perform again in playoffs. Till then this talk about praises needs to stop as it inly leads to arguments.
CeeDee didn't play like a No. 1 receiver last season at the level he is playing this season. CeeDee if you look at the most recent videos even stated how much time he and Dak spent this past off-season working on refining catch and pass, routes, and that he is going next level. For a number of games he was on that learning curve with Dak and the fact that we had a mediocre supporting cast of receivers last season didn't help matters because it was pretty much all on him. There was no Brandon Cooks, no Ferguson playing the level he is now. The starting quarterback is the key position but the last time I watched a football game the QB doesn't pass or run block, run with ball on every play, catch the ball where he threw it and stop opposing defenses from scoring. Dak is not perfect, in my opinion he is an above average quarterback, exceptional at times but not necessarily elite. If you choose to think otherwise that's your prerogative. I am just pointing out that you can't put it all bad or good on a quarterback. It's a team sport.
 

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Yep that’s bc he has already had his time with a great run game, the o line has aged but he had them for eight years, and now those resources are part of his 40million. Dak needs to prove it this year in playoffs, no one cares until then except for the homers that did it last year as well. We will lose in first or second round and homers will make another excuse. He’s s so great but can’t hit a wide open cooks two weeks in a row? He’s so good he keeps taking sacks, the same thing happens to Goff with Micah what did he do? He ducked and slipped giving himself more time. Most QBs can avoid one player coming full speed and then get rid of ball or throw it away…what they won’t continue to do is take 8+ yard losses every week. Now we are to blaming it on run defense.lol. The niners game the last two years that defense gave up 23 points and 19 points all the while Daks played like poopoo. Those are the facts so we can keep on making excuses or just accept that Dak has always been ok in regular season unfortunately he has been abysmal in playoffs.

This is another example of excuses, let’s only look at last year, what about when he had Cooper, Ceedee, and Zeke? What about those years do we just accept that they don’t count. Ceedee played like a number 1 all last year, the only ones making excuses were the homers I.e he ran the wrong route..tell ya what he didn’t run the wrong route bc if he would have run the one the homers wanted Dak would’ve put him in a body bag. Dak will never look off a receiver to help him gain separation, he will never get past second read, or do anything any other QB that provided the same talent could t do.

This year is the prove it year. Every other year doesn’t matter if he finally advances to nfcc. The other years don’t matter if he can play at high level in playoffs and not turn into

i pray i can come back and eat my words but if history has taught us anything Dak will under perform again in playoffs. Till then this talk about praises needs to stop as it inly leads to arguments.
I find it ironic that you used your whole post to castigate Dak, but then finished it with, "This talk about praises needs to stop as it only leads to arguments."
 

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11 wins with a shoddy running game and a mess of an offensive line is impressive indeed. Unfortunately, it’s going to be too much to overcome in the playoffs unless they figure something out fast.
 

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I'm with you. I too was very critical of him at every chance I got. He made some stupid good passes against the Lions. We can't be that one dimensional. I don't even blame him for the pick he threw. Because it wasn't a bad decision. He just thought he could beat the safety with his arm, and clearly he couldn't. It was a bad choice, not a stupid throw.
Not stupid but I thought an unnecessarily risky throw at that point in the game and at that place on the field. He had room to run for the first down and we were already in FG range. By being over aggressive he cost us points. When you're playing good teams you can't leave points out there on the field. Thankfully Detroit returned the favor several times but we need Dak to remember that it's okay to move the chains and get a fresh set of downs and not do anything that costs us points.
 
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