At least now we know why they haven't been using Luepke in the red zone

SteveTheCowboy

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The ball was given high because of Luepke's arm placement. The QB has to put the ball between the arms and his arms are high.



Again I chalk it up to inexperience in a big moment. It's as much on the coaches as it was on him.
Well okay then. The whole things looks very awkward. I say both to blame. Others have their own different opinion. Fine.

Stick it in his belly where it''s suppose to be and there's little doubt of blame.
 

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I know we all hate that Hunter fumbled. But he might be the only back we have that can power it in from the 1 yard line. I would give him another shot. But line him up at RB not FB. I think everything just happened a split second too quick right there. He still powered in he just forgot the ball lol.
 

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Well okay then. The whole things looks very awkward. I say both to blame. Others have their own different opinion. Fine.

Stick it in his belly where it''s suppose to be and there's little doubt of blame.
If Dak put the ball in his belly it would have been below his right hand. Hunter had his pocket high which may be where he is accustomed to taking the ball. We're all a little different in that regard. I suspect because of the location and situation he was determined to run extra low which is why the hand placement was so high. Clearly it's something that needs work. Fumbled exchanges simply should never happen unless it's a read option situation where the back and the QB differ on who is getting the the ball. Since Dak essentially bailed out after the hand off I don't think there's much doubt what HE thought the play was. If it was a read option he would have continued to the outside right and carried out his fake even if he handed it off.
 

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This team is snake bit with all the stupid mistakes they make that should never have been made. Dak stepped out of bounds, the TE just a few inches from the goal line, the bumbled hand off to the FB, and I'm sure there are some more, but without those mistakes, this team could have won more games than they already have. Mind blowing.
this 100%, TP also getting tackled at the 1 inch while everything but the ball crossed the GL in that game..its been a wierd collection of crazy ways to lose some games they should have won.
 

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Yeah, I felt bad for the guy. He was doing so well up to that point. I agree, he probably won't do it again!
Why? He has no history of fumbles. He had one fumble in college. It appeared to me he didn’t know he was getting the ball which is more about knowing the playbook than ball handling skills
 

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If Dak put the ball in his belly it would have been below his right hand. Hunter had his pocket high which may be where he is accustomed to taking the ball. We're all a little different in that regard. I suspect because of the location and situation he was determined to run extra low which is why the hand placement was so high. Clearly it's something that needs work. Fumbled exchanges simply should never happen unless it's a read option situation where the back and the QB differ on who is getting the the ball. Since Dak essentially bailed out after the hand off I don't think there's much doubt what HE thought the play was. If it was a read option he would have continued to the outside right and carried out his fake even if he handed it off.
Luepke had two 1st down short ydg runs early in drive.
Be good to see tape of his arm position at time of handoff on those as comp’s
 

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My Lord, Emmitt Smith had a fumble or two in his career. It was horrible timing but it happens. The Rook will get more carries in the redzone.
Exactly and Ezekiel Elliott had one bad year of fumbling as well even though there was a lot of reasons for them and I believe Tony Pollard fumbled a couple early in the year some were costly it does happen and that's why I hope they keep using hunter and I believe with Rico and Malik out this week I believe Hunter's gonna get a bigger load than he's had Oh yeah probably all in one game would add up to all his other games...

When did to turn this guy into the next moose I know we don't run a lot of I formation and two back sets but I believe he's got that kind of skill set I mean if you look at him he ended up in the end zone a yard if he doesn't drop that football that's an easy touchdown we need that...

Because with Tony Pollard being the number one and deuce Vaughn coming in as your primary backup yeah I believe hunter is about to get the rock a lot more than we believe from here on out
 

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A lot of us, myself included, have been calling for them to use the big guy on the goal line.

I suppose you could put some of the blame for that fumbled exchange on Dak but Dak has handed off probably about 10,000 times since he came into the league and only on THIS one did the back manage not to take the ball. I put most of the blame for that on the rook. He didn't clamp down when the ball hit his chest plate and basically left his arms separated. If it's not a read play as a back you are taught to TAKE the ball from the QB as soon as he puts it into your arms. That way it doesn't go bouncing around in the backfield. In my honest opinion I think the kid just froze in the moment. He was asked to do something significant in a meaningful juncture in the game and I think it got to him. Not the end of the world and I'm sure it will never happen again as long as he's in the league.. but that one hurt. The Cowboys should have had TDs on their first two drives and been up 14-3 after CeeDee's score. Probably would have been a very different game if that happens.
Still doesn't explain why a QB sneak wasn't the call. 3x if necessary.
 

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If that fumble was the reason they haven't been using Luepeke in the red zone, then why the heck did they use him the red zone all of a sudden against Miami?
 

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A lot of us, myself included, have been calling for them to use the big guy on the goal line.

I suppose you could put some of the blame for that fumbled exchange on Dak but Dak has handed off probably about 10,000 times since he came into the league and only on THIS one did the back manage not to take the ball. I put most of the blame for that on the rook. He didn't clamp down when the ball hit his chest plate and basically left his arms separated. If it's not a read play as a back you are taught to TAKE the ball from the QB as soon as he puts it into your arms. That way it doesn't go bouncing around in the backfield. In my honest opinion I think the kid just froze in the moment. He was asked to do something significant in a meaningful juncture in the game and I think it got to him. Not the end of the world and I'm sure it will never happen again as long as he's in the league.. but that one hurt. The Cowboys should have had TDs on their first two drives and been up 14-3 after CeeDee's score. Probably would have been a very different game if that happens.
Right you are, govnor, right you are.
Old fellow, I ask of you: WHAT RB ANTICIPATES THE BALL ON HIS CHEST INSTEAD OF HIS GUT!!!!????
The fumble was attributed to Dak but Leupke had a brain fart.


It was not a play action because of the way Dak looked back at the football.
 

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Tony Romo threw a pick his 1st NFL pass. I don't care about the fumble because it was an exchange issue, not that he coughed up the ball. MM should've gave Hunter the ball the next series. I was more concerned about the missed pass block on Duke Riley.
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This
 

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A lot of us, myself included, have been calling for them to use the big guy on the goal line.

I suppose you could put some of the blame for that fumbled exchange on Dak but Dak has handed off probably about 10,000 times since he came into the league and only on THIS one did the back manage not to take the ball. I put most of the blame for that on the rook. He didn't clamp down when the ball hit his chest plate and basically left his arms separated. If it's not a read play as a back you are taught to TAKE the ball from the QB as soon as he puts it into your arms. That way it doesn't go bouncing around in the backfield. In my honest opinion I think the kid just froze in the moment. He was asked to do something significant in a meaningful juncture in the game and I think it got to him. Not the end of the world and I'm sure it will never happen again as long as he's in the league.. but that one hurt. The Cowboys should have had TDs on their first two drives and been up 14-3 after CeeDee's score. Probably would have been a very different game if that happens.
Did he freeze earlier in the year when he scored a TD? IT's just a Cowboys ghost or something for us to have bone head mistakes, I don't blame him at all, blame Pollard!
 

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As if NOBODY else on the team makes mistakes....FWIW, I thought the hand off was high.
RIGHT!!!! Not like he lined up off sides and killed the drive lol, guys make mistakes every single week
 

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A lot of us, myself included, have been calling for them to use the big guy on the goal line.

I suppose you could put some of the blame for that fumbled exchange on Dak but Dak has handed off probably about 10,000 times since he came into the league and only on THIS one did the back manage not to take the ball. I put most of the blame for that on the rook. He didn't clamp down when the ball hit his chest plate and basically left his arms separated. If it's not a read play as a back you are taught to TAKE the ball from the QB as soon as he puts it into your arms. That way it doesn't go bouncing around in the backfield. In my honest opinion I think the kid just froze in the moment. He was asked to do something significant in a meaningful juncture in the game and I think it got to him. Not the end of the world and I'm sure it will never happen again as long as he's in the league.. but that one hurt. The Cowboys should have had TDs on their first two drives and been up 14-3 after CeeDee's score. Probably would have been a very different game if that happens.
Dude, I'm in my 50s. I don't need this. I wanted to kill someone on that fumble. My blood pressure was spiking. That one angle where you saw Dak give this rhino the ball and he ran through it made me want to vomit. Are you kidding me? How do you not grab the ball? WoW!!
 

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A lot of us, myself included, have been calling for them to use the big guy on the goal line.

I suppose you could put some of the blame for that fumbled exchange on Dak but Dak has handed off probably about 10,000 times since he came into the league and only on THIS one did the back manage not to take the ball. I put most of the blame for that on the rook. He didn't clamp down when the ball hit his chest plate and basically left his arms separated. If it's not a read play as a back you are taught to TAKE the ball from the QB as soon as he puts it into your arms. That way it doesn't go bouncing around in the backfield. In my honest opinion I think the kid just froze in the moment. He was asked to do something significant in a meaningful juncture in the game and I think it got to him. Not the end of the world and I'm sure it will never happen again as long as he's in the league.. but that one hurt. The Cowboys should have had TDs on their first two drives and been up 14-3 after CeeDee's score. Probably would have been a very different game if that happens.
I was bummed out by his fumble. He was looking really good up until then.
 

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A lot of us, myself included, have been calling for them to use the big guy on the goal line.

I suppose you could put some of the blame for that fumbled exchange on Dak but Dak has handed off probably about 10,000 times since he came into the league and only on THIS one did the back manage not to take the ball. I put most of the blame for that on the rook. He didn't clamp down when the ball hit his chest plate and basically left his arms separated. If it's not a read play as a back you are taught to TAKE the ball from the QB as soon as he puts it into your arms. That way it doesn't go bouncing around in the backfield. In my honest opinion I think the kid just froze in the moment. He was asked to do something significant in a meaningful juncture in the game and I think it got to him. Not the end of the world and I'm sure it will never happen again as long as he's in the league.. but that one hurt. The Cowboys should have had TDs on their first two drives and been up 14-3 after CeeDee's score. Probably would have been a very different game if that happens.
I like you wanted the bigger back on the goal line. You were kind to him in your thread. He will learn and we will be better because of it if MM trust him ever again.
 
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