Audibles are a thing. This wasn't playcalling

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Saying that coaches can't predict what the defenses is going to do, yet somehow opposing players and coaches time and time again have come out and said how predictable the Cowboys play calling and plays were. So this coaching staff can't be let off of the hook by putting the blame on Dak for not changing the play.

Bingo
 

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Until late in his career there was always an open question of how much freedom Romo was given in the offense. When things went well it was all part of the gameplan all along, when they didn't it was Romo going off the reservation. Now Garrett is using the same responsibility again with Dak as the scapegoat instead of Romo. It's just history repeating itself.
 

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Ya know what I’m trying to figure out?

why do teams have offensive coordinators and playcallers anyway?

I mean, if it’s all on the QB to just audible anyway, why do billion dollars businesses spend millions of dollars on offensive coaching staffs and playcallers? Why do quality offensive playcallers then typically get head coaching jobs?

I’m so confused since playcalling doesn’t matter at all and it’s all on the QB to audible anyway.

:rolleyes:
 

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Speaking of Dak-Employees, last week it was Booger McFarland taking away credits fro Gallups incredible effort TD by stating, " That was all Dak", this week Chris Colligsworth makes up this story that Dakota bought a house for his mother from his Cowboys endorsement money.......uh she died in 2013. https://247sports.com/Article/Dak-P...-NBC-Sports-apology-comment-mother-138401220/

The point is that for some strange reason we are seeing the media and other not only prop up Dakota but outright fabricating stories about him to boost themselves in the eyes of the viewers. " "Look how much Collingsworth cares about Rayne Dakota as the man, not just the player" Condescending and transparent at best

This has nothing to do with Dak, not a bash on him, only recognizing the levels some will stoop to in creating the Legend. In the media and obviously in this forum. Let his performance and his end of season stats do his talking.

I understand that being wrong this entire time has been a tough pill to swallow. I wish you all the best.
 

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Ya know what I’m trying to figure out?

why do teams have offensive coordinators and playcallers anyway?

I mean, if it’s all on the QB to just audible anyway, why do billion dollars businesses spend millions of dollars on offensive coaching staffs and playcallers? Why do quality offensive playcallers then typically get head coaching jobs?

I’m so confused since playcalling doesn’t matter at all and it’s all on the QB to audible anyway.

:rolleyes:

Quite the mystery there lol

The real answer is, as always, that it's Garrett pulling a responsibility dodge.
 

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And to everybody minimizing the importance of playcalling and wanting to blame it on the lack of an audible.

the coaching staff are also the ones who choose what personnel package and players to have on the field. So the QB is limited by what personnel he has on the field with him.

it’s the coaches jobs to put a good package of players out there to take advantage of match ups and put the players in a position to succeed. Not just call plays that haven’t been working all night long.
 

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Yeah. Why should we expect the coaches to call plays that will actually work?
Seriously? Coaches call plays that sound good, qbs actually see what the defense is doing after the play is called. Don't be that dude.
 

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Seriously? Coaches call plays that sound good, qbs actually see what the defense is doing after the play is called. Don't be that dude.
Thank you. You just highlighted the problem. After having the running game SHUT DOWN the entire game and seeing Dak carve up the defense for most of the game, those run plays "sounded good to our coaches."
 

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Seriously? Coaches call plays that sound good, qbs actually see what the defense is doing after the play is called. Don't be that dude.

The plays the coaches called weren’t working all night.
If Zeke and the OL were running it well all game and just failed on those plays. The convo would be different.

watch the games dude.
 

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And to everybody minimizing the importance of playcalling and wanting to blame it on the lack of an audible.

the coaching staff are also the ones who choose what personnel package and players to have on the field. So the QB is limited by what personnel he has on the field with him.

it’s the coaches jobs to put a good package of players out there to take advantage of match ups and put the players in a position to succeed. Not just call plays that haven’t been working all night long.

Garrett always has to count on the QB bailing him out. The Vikings defense said that they knew what play was coming and knew about Garrett's stubborness in wanting to run the ball at all costs even when it wasn't working. Garrett has had a 1-15 season without Dak or Romo as his QB. He has no talents in developing a QB and can't build a system around that QB to best fit the QB's talents. The only reason for his wins are because of Dak and Romo and the talent on the Cowboys roster.
 

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The plays the coaches called weren’t working all night.

watch the games dude.
Im not disputing that, did you miss the entire first post? You watch the games and save your strong analysis for someone who doesn't care.
 

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Most of you know my qualms with Dak Prescott and the prospect of paying him like a top-five quarterback. Forget that for now. Last night was not about that at all.

This isn't a Dak criticism post. I think the guy played really, really well last night. In fact, that's the best game I've ever seen him play by a mile. After a rocky start with an almost pick-six, he got himself together and played a tremendous game. Very, very good to see.

However, far too much focus is being placed on the play-calling at the end. Namely, the two run calls.

Any playcall can be cancelled with an audible. They are all the time. They are DESIGNED to be changed at the line of scrimmage based on looks or whatever.

If you remember, Tony Romo almost never ran the play that was sent in. Brady, Brees, Rodgers, etc, etc, etc....they audible more than they don't.

So it's dumb to blame last night on playcalling. It's lazy and mindless thinking. This team moves the ball just fine so far with Dak at the helm.

The second down run made sense with only two yards to gain and a need to drain the clock. The second run was silly against that front. You don't run a toss play with the defense lined up out wide like that. Disaster.

And then, was the 4th down play really designed to go to Zeke? Dak was NOT required to throw it there. That is not coaching. That's a quarterback decision. I'm looking for Cooper there, and if he's doubled or tripled, the big tight ends should have advantages.

Last night was a great game. The Cowboys defense and interior offensive line play was the biggest problem, but there were others. Many others. And Dak was part of that late blunder, too.

I have a hard time blaming playcalling when you've got the ball at the 9 yard line going in for a game winning touchdown in a should-be 31-28 victory.

The game was there to be won. Dak played great, but I think he could have handled that sequence much better. It's lazy thinking to blame Kellen Moore, and even more so to blame Jason Garrett. Celebrate Dak last night, as he deserves, but don't absolve him entirely. He shared in this loss, too.

This fan base obsesses over coaching and playcalling in excess because the majority of it can't dissect what it's watching. Same with the click-baiting, non-thinking media.
Well done E!!
 

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Im not disputing that, did you miss the entire first post? You watch the games and save your strong analysis for someone who doesn't care.

yeah I read the first post. It was wrong the first time I read it and is still wrong.

you want to defend the coaches who have accomplished nothing? By all means feel free.

I prefer to expect the coaches to do what it takes to win.
 

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The more he learns the easier he can audible and do it correctly. I had no problem with one of the 2 run plays called at the end. I feel like we could have used some missed direction at that point. Even fake the toss to Elliot and have Dak keep it to the other side. The Vikings were set up for a play like that and it was never called all game. The missed the 4th down to Elliot needed more options for Dak. But if our Defense could have made a few more stops we win that one. Our Offense could have done it. The Maher missed FG hurt. Lol.
 

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I do know this.

The running plays weren’t working all game long. All game long they were getting stuffed. How do you not know this? The coaches called running plays when they needed yards the most anyway, despite them not working all game.

that is a time in the game where the coaches should go into their playbook and call a play that has a high probability of working. Not call plays that literally haven’t worked all game long.

How about you spend more focus on watching the games and actually seeing what’s going on.
It is common to have the choice of a running play or a passing play (at minimum). Not to mention an experienced QB likely has command of the entire offense and has flexibility within the scope of the personnel on the field at the time.

Learn football. At least the very basics.
 

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OL had no effort

Def couldn't tackle

HC tells our most dynamic return specialist to stand fast
 

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Ya know what I’m trying to figure out?

why do teams have offensive coordinators and playcallers anyway?

I mean, if it’s all on the QB to just audible anyway, why do billion dollars businesses spend millions of dollars on offensive coaching staffs and playcallers? Why do quality offensive playcallers then typically get head coaching jobs?

I’m so confused since playcalling doesn’t matter at all and it’s all on the QB to audible anyway.

:rolleyes:

You're trying to figure out what anyone with a half a brain and a little common sense can easily understand?
:facepalm:
 

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I honestly don't understand the desire to defend the unequivocal worst coach in the NFL.

It is not even close. These are the same problems that have run rampant for A DECADE.
 
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