AUDIO: Brad Sham calls Marty B out

[Bleu Star]

Here's what I found-

Romo was 1 of 11 on passes over 21yds.

P Manning 7 of 20

A Rodgers 7 of 22 (only 4 games)

M Ryan 3 of 7 (4 games)

Flacco 6 of 17

Palmer 1 of 10

Brady 2 of 13

E Manning 7 of 12

Brees 8 of 16 (4 games)

Rivers 9 of 22 (4 games)

Roesthlisberger 7 of 15

Cutler 4 of 14 (4 games)

Dont have time to do every team, but it would appear from this that as I thought, we arnt attempting many balls down the field. At best he's in the middle of the pack and most likely down toeards the bottom.

 

[theogt]

Dont have time to do every team, but it would appear from this that as I thought, we arnt attempting many balls down the field. At best he's in the middle of the pack and most likely down toeards the bottom.

If he's in the middle of the pack, then he's attempting plenty of balls down field.

Again, I stated % of attempts, not completion %. As I've already stated, his completion % is low.

Please read more carefully.

 

[theebs]

Here is the actual pregame audio. Brad says it in passing, which means john garrett probably told him bennett isnt working hard enough. A big to do about nothing. It's at the 5:40 mark.

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oh and I will say this. If the team is worried about his attention level, maybe they should blame themselves. During all of the their local TV shows, produced by blue star media they pump the crap out of marty b. They put up links to his youtube and twitter pages and he is in a commercial.

also, if you throw in the fact that Jerry said last week that he expects more from bennett, it sounds like someone in the organization wants him challenged publically. And since the head coach doesnt do that and the offensive coordinator rarely speaks, I guess it is on jerry.

 

[theogt]

I posted it in this thread, and he's definitely not at the top. His attempts on passes of 21+ yds were lower than most of the other QB's, and alot of those only had 4 games.

Of course, no one ever said he was "at the top." But he's not abnormally low either. And even you concede that in your previous post.

Hence, you were wrong claiming that shorts routes have been all we're running.

 

[theogt]

Might oughtta let the discussion finish before you make yourself look silly.

 

[Bleu Star]

Might oughtta let the discussion finish before you make yourself look silly.

Looks finished to me.

 

[theogt]

Looks finished to me.

You're right. His statistics prove my point.

I'm glad he took the time to post it for me.

 

[Bleu Star]

You're right. His statistics prove my point.

Actually, whether you talk % complete or % tossed, he's still bringing up the rear... That's unless mine eyes are deceiving me.

You can look at the percentage of Romo's throws that have gone in the air for over 20 yards. His percentage matches that of other top QBs.

Romo 11 (5 games)
Mannning 20
Rodgers 22 (4 games)
Flacco 17
Brees 16 (4 games)
Rivers 22 (4 games)
Ben 15
Cutler 14 (4 games)

Yeah.. real close...lol

 

[dbair1967]

He was the guy that championed Brad Johnson as a backup

Yeah yeah. Once upon a time Bill Cowher believed Kordell Stewart was a starting calibar QB. Bill Parcells benched Phil Simms for a nobody.

He was the guy that went an entire game without giving Felix Jones a carry

Yeah, because a certain WR went to the owner and said he needed the ball every down, so despite having double and triple coverage, the QB continued to throw the ball to said receiver.

He was the guy that continued to go with Marion Barber, instead of Tashard Choice, the obvious hot hand

Are you talking about the KC game this week? Choice got alot of his yards on 2 or 3 carries.

He is the one that devises game plans where you attack Pro Bowl corners each and every chance you get

And yet he didnt attempt a single pass in that game.

He is the one that throws consecutive lobs to Martellus Bennett when it is completely unnecessary

He didnt throw any lobs. He called the play, and the first one was to Roy Williams, who should have caught the ball.

He is the one that needed 5 games into the 2009 Season to see just what Miles Austin brings to the table

Austin has played every game. He's been out there, ask the QB why he didnt throw to him more. Maybe go back and look at video of Romo badly overthrowing a wide open Austin for an easy TD in week one, or maybe view those last two plays again in Denver where Romo throws to Hurd instead of a wide open Austin.

Jason Garrett has been atrocious and has benefited from 3 teams on the Schedule that are combined 1-14.

Offense is still ranked #1 in the league though and is at or near the top in just about everything. And the run game was amazing against a great NYG team, so it isnt a product of only a bad schedule.

Folks need to use what they see on the field as a gauge, rather than looking at stat sheets

Pot, meet kettle

The Cowboys had the number 1 defense in 2003 and I don't think anyone on this board at the time really bought into it

This point is valid, but that was based on what happened in an entire season. This has only been 5 games.

Garrett hasnt been perfect, but the offense has struggled mostly because of our QB's surprising lack of accuracy and one game where he made 3 or 4 awful decisions. We've also had to deal with injuries to our top 2 RB's again.

 

[peplaw06]

How can anyone honestly blame Garrett? The Cowboys boast the number one offense in the NFL, and normally move the ball with ease -- often in spite of their offensive players. The Cowboys would score more points if not for penalties, field position, turnovers, and execution errors -- none of which are Garrett's fault.

I think you answered your own question.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

He was the guy that championed Brad Johnson as a backup

The retention of Brad Johnson was a personnel decision, the responsibility for which falls on Jerry Jones and Wade Phillips, not Jason Garrett.

He was the guy that went an entire game without giving Felix Jones a carry

Unquestionably, this was a legitimate mistake from Garrett. However, there was a reason Felix Jones was overlooked, and that reason is now in Buffalo. If you're going to blame Garret for Brad Johnson, you must also credit him for TO's release.

He was the guy that continued to go with Marion Barber, instead of Tashard Choice, the obvious hot hand

Barber is better at picking up rushers than Choice. Furthermore, Choice wasn't overly effective until late in the game -- because his legs were fresh due to the carries Barber had received early in the game.

He is the one that devises game plans where you attack Pro Bowl corners each and every chance you get

And there was absolutely nothing wrong with the game plan against Denver. Poor execution by the players, not Garrett, prevented it from being more effective.

He is the one that throws consecutive lobs to Martellus Bennett when it is completely unnecessary

Once again, it's a matter of execution.

He is the one that needed 5 games into the 2009 Season to see just what Miles Austin brings to the table

Perhaps because Martellus Bennett was supposed to be the new weapon with his rare combination of size and speed. If Bennett is on the field, Austin probably isn't. After training camp, we had every reason to believe that Bennett would provide the Cowboys with all sorts of advantageous matchups.

Unfortunately, he didn't.

Jason Garrett has been atrocious and has benefited from 3 teams on the Schedule that are combined 1-14.

The mere fact that you say it does not make it true.

Folks need to use what they see on the field as a gauge, rather than looking at stat sheets

The Cowboys had the number 1 defense in 2003 and I don't think anyone on this board at the time really bought into it

For whatever flaws may exist in stat sheets, they're still infinitely superior to the anecdotal evidence that you're providing, which is entirely bereft of context.

 

[theogt]

Romo 11 (5 games)
Mannning 20
Rodgers 22 (4 games)
Flacco 17
Brees 16 (4 games)
Rivers 22 (4 games)
Ben 15
Cutler 14 (4 games)

Yeah.. real close...lol

What do percentage mean?

 

[Bleu Star]

What do percentage mean?

What do matches mean?

 

[dbair1967]

If he's in the middle of the pack, then he's attempting plenty of balls down field.

Again, I stated % of attempts, not completion %. As I've already stated, his completion % is low.

Please read more carefully.

I dont know that 11 (attempts) even gets him to the middle of the pack, but its defintiely not at the top. I only looked at 10-12 or so and Romo had the 2nd or 3rd fewest.

 

[dogunwo]

I disagree with both respects (1) that Romo has pretty much had all day and (2) that we've only been running short routes.

The latter I can prove with statistics.

The only time I felt Romo had all day was at times during the Denver game, where he ate the football after having all day to throw instead of throwing it away. I know Denver got to him sometimes, but there were plenty of times where he had over 12 seconds to get rid of the ball and didnt.

 

[Nav22]

He was the guy that continued to go with Marion Barber, instead of Tashard Choice, the obvious hot hand

So you think Garrett has the full responsibility of RB rotations, and Skip Peete has nothing to do with it? Have you ever played football or paid any attention to what actually occurs on the sidelines?

He is the one that devises game plans where you attack Pro Bowl corners each and every chance you get

Yeah, THAT was the game-plan.

The funny part is that if Hurd had gotten open on Champ Bailey and Romo avoided him, the Garrett Hate Squad be screaming about Garrett being a pansy and costing us a game by giving too much respect to a past-his-prime Bailey.

Troy Aikman said he liked the slant calls there too. Is Troy an idiot?

He is the one that throws consecutive lobs to Martellus Bennett when it is completely unnecessary

We've never thrown consecutive lobs to Martellus. Get your facts straight. The first lob was to Roy and it hit him in the hands.

It's amazing how smart an Offensive Coordinator will look if the players make the plays that they're paid to make.

He is the one that needed 5 games into the 2009 Season to see just what Miles Austin brings to the table

Now this is funny. Because you follow it up with...

Jason Garrett has been atrocious and has benefited from 3 teams on the Schedule that are combined 1-14.

LOL.

So Austin deserves credit for tearing up a horrendous team, but Garrett deserves NONE of the same credit? The same Garrett who called the plays that led to 10 catches for 250 and 2 scores?

The absence of logic here is comedic gold.

Folks need to use what they see on the field as a gauge, rather than looking at stat sheets

No, actually I'd say the strong majority of fans would benefit greatly from stat sheets. Because it's clear that 90% of them really don't know what the hell they're talking about when they avoid things like facts and statistics.

The Cowboys had the number 1 defense in 2003 and I don't think anyone on this board at the time really bought into it

LOL.

No, it was Quincy Carter and Troy Hambrick that got us into the playoffs.

We were #1 in terms of total yardage, just like our offense is currently #1 in total yardage. And both were as accurate as they looked on the stat sheet.

Stats are your friend.

We beat the 0-5 Chiefs in overtime. Whoopieeeeeeeeee. Definitely something to hang your hat on...

We could blast the Steelers 60-0 and there would still be a moronic faction ready to rip Garrett for a playcall that prevented us from getting to 67.

Do people realize that other teams employ a person called a "Defensive Coordinator" whose job is to make our "Offensive Coordinator" look like a total butt?

 

[dbair1967]

Of course, no one ever said he was "at the top." But he's not abnormally low either. And even you concede that in your previous post.

Hence, you were wrong claiming that shorts routes have been all we're running.

Out of 12 I looked at, he's 3rd fewest.

Maybe tomorrow I'll look at all the teams primary starters.

 

[Bleu Star]

We could blast the Steelers 60-0 and there would still be a moronic faction ready to rip Garrett for a playcall that prevented us from getting to 67.

Shills amuse me.

 

[theogt]

What do matches mean?

I dont know that 11 (attempts) even gets him to the middle of the pack, but its defintiely not at the top. I only looked at 10-12 or so and Romo had the 2nd or 3rd fewest.

Out of 12 I looked at, he's 3rd fewest.

Maybe tomorrow I'll look at all the teams primary starters.

*sigh*

Percentages, people. Percentages. These are passes thrown over 20 yards as a percentage of total attempts.

M. Ryan.............5.7%
C. Palmer...........6.0%
J. Cutler...........6.1%
T. Brady............6.3%
T. Romo.............6.7%
B. Roethlisberger...8.7%
E. Manning..........8.9%
J. Flacco...........9.3%

Yes, Romo is completely abnormal.

 

[Bleu Star]

*sigh*

Percentages, people. Percentages. These are passes thrown over 20 yards as a percentage of total attempts.

M. Ryan.............5.7%
C. Palmer...........6.0%
J. Cutler...........6.1%
T. Brady............6.3%
T. Romo.............6.7%
B. Roethlisberger...8.7%
E. Manning..........8.9%
J. Flacco...........9.3%

Yes, Romo is completely abnormal.

Do it again with these names. Thanks.

Romo 11 (5 games)
Mannning 20
Rodgers 22 (4 games)
Flacco 17
Brees 16 (4 games)
Rivers 22 (4 games)
Ben 15
Cutler 14 (4 games)

Oh..

Also factor in amt per game.

Romo 5/11 = 2.2 per game <---low end of the totem pole
Manning 5/20= 4 per game
Rodgers 4/22= 5.5 per game
Flacco 5/17= 3.4 per game
Brees 4/16= 4 per game
Rivers 4/22= 5.5 per game
Ben 5/15= 3 per game
Cutler 4/14= 3.5 per game