Average separation generated for a QB so far in 2024

McMicah

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I’d feel more sympathy for Dak if he timed his throws better to maximize the separation his receivers do get and also threw accurately enough to not make his receivers leap into a big hit or slide/dive.
 

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it certainly does create an issue for his argument.....
No it doesn't because I never argued Daks accuracy. This was only to show how much McCarthy system sucks and is outdated. Every team in the top right corner has a Shanny tree coordinator. That isn't a coincidence.
 

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Last year it was the Dolphins with the play calling and getting guys wide open.

How come after two games they arent anywhere near the top of the list?

Their play calling has fallen off that much?
 

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Is this just for those he threw to, or does it apply to all WRs for each play? In other words, does it account for a QB who missed the open WR and threw to a covered one instead?
a guy with 3 guys covering has a great chance in our offense to make a great play lol
 

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No it doesn't because I never argued Daks accuracy. This was only to show how much McCarthy system sucks and is outdated. Every team in the top right corner has a Shanny tree coordinator. That isn't a coincidence.
Maybe the McCarthy system works if you don't have to dumb it down to play to the QBs physical and mental limitations.

But don't worry, you'll get your wish in the end. With the bag Jerry gave Dak, we're stuck with him. McCarthy will be the next sacrifice on Daks altar and there will be a new coach next year for you guys to blame for Daks shortcomings
 

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it certainly does create an issue for his argument.....
Not really, because the x- and y-axis are just relative scores. They aren't measuring actual accuracy.

I have no idea how "accuracy" is defined here, but Dak is still at ~70% on target. Jalen Hurts is ~34%, Mahomes is at ~82% for comparison, per p-f-r.
 

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Not really, because the x- and y-axis are just relative scores. They aren't measuring actual accuracy.

I have no idea how "accuracy" is defined here, but Dak is still at ~70% on target. Jalen Hurts is ~34%, Mahomes is at ~82% for comparison, per p-f-r.
So the takeaway is, this stat grid posted by a noted Dak defender is totally accurate in the stats that provide cover for Dak, but on the stats that reflect poorly on Dak it's not trustworthy.

Got it.
 

Mac_MaloneV1

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So the takeaway is, this stat grid posted by a noted Dak defender is totally accurate in the stats that provide cover for Dak, but on the stats that reflect poorly on Dak it's not trustworthy.

Got it.
No, the takeaway is that you don't know how to read. Go ahead and tell me what the numbers on the y-axis mean, and then you'll have a point.

Nobody said it shows Dak being accurate.
 

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Dak plunge protection team activated….

God forbid the highest paid player in NFL history make a difficult throw. I mean every receiver should be wide open like we’re playing Vanderbilt every week.
 

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This is exactly what I meant about other teams making it easy on their QB while we just ask Dak to be superman and win with no separation. Get me a real coordinator like the Saints have.
I agree. Its not that all our wrs are slow and run bad routes. Cooks is better than plenty of teams wr2. Mikes offense cannot run the ball or scheme receivers open. If he cannot win playoff games either, he is bringing zero to the table at this point.
 

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No, the takeaway is that you don't know how to read. Go ahead and tell me what the numbers on the y-axis mean, and then you'll have a point.

Nobody said it shows Dak being accurate.
you admitted that it doesn't show Dak being accurate.

Then proceeded to say the data is inaccurate.

As I said, your point is, data that shows dak in a positive light = good.

Data that shows negatively on Dak = bad.

I read just fine. And so do you. That's why you're spending time discounting data you don't like and insulting the comprehension skills of those who are interpreting said data accurately
 

Mac_MaloneV1

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you admitted that it doesn't show Dak being accurate.

Then proceeded to say the data is inaccurate.

As I said, your point is, data that shows dak in a positive light = good.

Data that shows negatively on Dak = bad.

I read just fine. And so do you. That's why you're spending time discounting data you don't like and insulting the comprehension skills of those who are interpreting said data accurately
I didn't say the data is inaccurate.

Like I said, you don't know how to read.
 

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There are plays on the field to be made. WR Separation isn't to blame for everything i.e.throwing into double coverage etc. There are no excuses, other QB are dealing with the same thing. Top 10 QBs can handle this situation. Dak played well with the same group of receivers last season.
 
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