AZ loss to Detroit hurts us

[Mr_437]

Don't matter. Just be ready in the Playoffs, this team doesn't need a bye...they suck with rest time. What's necessary is a streak of good ball heading into and thru January.

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

True.

I'm not even considering the #1 overall seed, because the Buccaneers are not going to lose 2 games.

The best the Cowboys can get is the #2 seed.

You should have been more clear in your title.

Objectively incorrect, once again.

The Cowboys can get to the #1 seed easily if Tampa loses only ONE game, they do NOT have to lose 2 games.

The Buccaneers stand at 3 losses. The Cowboys have 4 losses. The Cowboys win any and all three-way or four-way tiebreakers in the conference due to best NFC record/worst AFC record.

The ONLY way the Cowboys/Buccaneers head-to-head tiebreaker would come into play is ONLY in the event of a two-way tie in the conference, as opposed to a three- or four- way tie (at 4 losses).


It's time for people on this board to start paying some serious homage to @MichiganCowboyFan for consistently getting it right and being on the money as much as, if not more than anyone else on this message board despite other people coming with seemingly strong, but yet refutable and objectively incorrect arguments, time after time. Seriously.....

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

Our last hope is tonight. If Saints can’t get it done, no one will. Saints are Tom’s kryptonite. With AZ’s loss, we may be able to achieve the 3rd seed. We’ll see though.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Cowboys really have no home field advantage so who cares? Also, if the QB and offense doesn’t improve it’s one and done.

 

[Sydla]

Huh

Cowboys lose the head to head with the Bucs. Cowboys need to win out, have the Bucs lose and then have the Packers lose just once. In that scenario, it's conference record that decides the tiebreaker. We have the best conference record.

However, if the Bucs finish with 4 losses, we finish with 4 losses and the Packers or Cards finish with 5 losses, we can't be the #1 seed. So we need the Pack to lose just one more game, not two.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Objectively incorrect, once again.

The Cowboys can get to the #1 seed easily if Tampa loses only ONE game, they do NOT have to lose 2 games.

The Buccaneers stand at 3 losses. The Cowboys have 4 losses. The Cowboys win any and all three-way or four-way tiebreakers in the conference due to best NFC record/worst AFC record.

The ONLY way the Cowboys/Buccaneers head-to-head tiebreaker would come into play is ONLY in the event of a two-way tie in the conference, as opposed to a three- or four- way tie (at 4 losses).


It's time for people on this board to start paying some serious homage to @MichiganCowboyFan for consistently getting it right and being on the money as much as, if not more than anyone else on this message board despite other people coming with seemingly strong, but yet refutable and objectively incorrect arguments, time after time. Seriously.....

You need the Packers and the Buccaneers to lose another game WHILE THE COWBOYS WIN OUT in order for this three-way scenario to play out where the Cowboys get the #1 seed.

Good luck with that!

When it doesn't play out, make sure you come here and admit you were wrong!!!

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

Huh

Do you understand how conference tiebreakers work in the NFL?

Just take 2014 for instance.

Dallas, Seattle and GB were all tied for first place at 12-4 in the conference. Dallas had beaten Seattle, and Seattle had beaten GB, but none of that mattered because Seattle had 2 AFC losses, GB had 1 AFC loss, and Dallas had zero AFC losses. Therefore, Dallas was stuck with the 3rd seed, playing a tough Lions team and then having to go to Lambeau to face the cold and the refs instead of having it at home or getting a bye.

That's how tiebreakers work.

Count on @MichiganCowboyFan to be your money man at all times coming down the stretch of the season.

 

[Sydla]

Not true. If Green Bay loses and ends up tied with the Cowboys with the same record, Cowboys get the higher seed due to having a better NFC Conference record.

Only way the Pack and Cowboys can end up tied by themselves is if he Bucs lose twice. That ain't happening with their schedule.

 

[Chuck 54]

No...puts us closer to getting out of the 4 hole

Exactly. I will pull for a loss from every team with a better or same or even lose record. I don’t really care about the #1 seed…..happy if it falls that way, but don’t really care. Getting into the #3 or #2 slots are my priority.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Only way the Pack and Cowboys can end up tied by themselves is if he Bucs lose twice. That ain't happening with their schedule.

I know that.

Tell that to the stubborn OP.

 

[mldardy]

Do you understand how conference tiebreakers work in the NFL?

Just take 2014 for instance.

Dallas, Seattle and GB were all tied for first place at 12-4 in the conference. Dallas had beaten Seattle, and Seattle had beaten GB, but none of that mattered because Seattle had 2 AFC losses, GB had 1 AFC loss, and Dallas had zero AFC losses. Therefore, Dallas was stuck with the 3rd seed, playing a tough Lions team and then having to go to Lambeau to face the cold and the refs instead of having it at home or getting a bye.

That's how tiebreakers work.

Count on @MichiganCowboyFan to be your money man at all times coming down the stretch of the season.

Yeah man I understand how tiebreakers work. Don't get smart with me *****. Anyway we have 1 conference loss so I don't understand *** you are talking about. You might want to explain further because you aren't making sense. Also the AFC losses in 2014 didn't determine tiebreakers.

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

You need the Packers and the Buccaneers to lose another game WHILE THE COWBOYS WIN OUT in order for this three-way scenario to play out where the Cowboys get the #1 seed.

Good luck with that!

When it doesn't play out, make sure you come here and admit you were wrong!!!

That's the whole purpose of the thread. That Arizona losing eliminates the possibility of a four-way tiebreaker and means that GB has to lose 1 more game (likely) but not more than 1 more game (questionable) in order to win the #1 seed and the all important bye for the Cowboys, in the case of TB losing.

Dallas also wins a two-way tiebreaker over GB or the Rams if they each finish at 4 wins, because of the same reason (most AFC losses, least NFC losses).

It doesn't mean "I was wrong" if it doesn't play out. It wasn't a prediction. It was laying down the facts and scenarios and proving you wrong for saying the #1 seed is hopeless if the Bucs don't lose two more games.

Get a grip on yourself.

 

[viman96]

Our last hope is tonight. If Saints can’t get it done, no one will. Saints are Tom’s kryptonite. With AZ’s loss, we may be able to achieve the 3rd seed. We’ll see though.

Dallas has the 3rd seed now.

 

[America's Cowboy]

That's the whole purpose of the thread. That Arizona losing eliminates the possibility of a four-way tiebreaker and means that GB has to lose 1 more game (likely) but not more than 1 more game (questionable) in order to win the #1 seed and the all important bye for the Cowboys, in the case of TB losing.

Dallas also wins a two-way tiebreaker over GB or the Rams if they each finish at 4 wins, because of the same reason (most AFC losses, least NFC losses).

It doesn't mean "I was wrong" if it doesn't play out. It wasn't a prediction. It was laying down the facts and scenarios and proving you wrong for saying the #1 seed is hopeless if the Bucs don't lose two more games.

Get a grip on yourself.

Be more clear in your title.

 

[mldardy]

OP has no clue what he's talking about.

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

I know that.

Tell that to the stubborn OP.

That has nothing to do with anything. The Bucs losing twice with that schedule is unlikely. The Cowboys winning out is very likely given the remaining schedule. Arizona is coming up small towards the end of the season as per usual in the past decade. But the Bucs just have to lose once and the Packers just have to lose once. If the Packers lose exactly once and the Bucs lose at least ONCE, the Cowboys winning out would grant us the #1 seed and the bye.

The purpose of this thread was to demonstrate that Arizona losing today makes a four-way tiebreaker scenario with them impossible, and now we'll need the Packers to lose one and exactly one game (not more) OR if they lose more than one game, the Rams MUST win out along with TB losing one and GB losing at least one.

Dallas will likely win out, but they need help.

This was not a prediction thread, this was a scenario mapping thread.

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

Cowboys lose the head to head with the Bucs. Cowboys need to win out, have the Bucs lose and then have the Packers lose just once. In that scenario, it's conference record that decides the tiebreaker. We have the best conference record.

However, if the Bucs finish with 4 losses, we finish with 4 losses and the Packers or Cards finish with 5 losses, we can't be the #1 seed. So we need the Pack to lose just one more game, not two.

Someone who gets it.

The Rams can still win that division and finish with 4 losses by the way. We should absolutely be pulling for them to win out. Dallas winning out means Arizona has at least 5 losses by default. So the Rams are the only other team we can have a multi way tiebreaker with if GB/AZ have 5 losses each and Dallas/TB have 4 losses each if the Rams win out they will also have 4 losses and Dallas wins that tiebreaker as well.

 

[zrinkill]

WAST

 

[Sydla]

Yeah man I understand how tiebreakers work. Don't get smart with me *****. Anyway we have 1 conference loss so I don't understand *** you are talking about. You might want to explain further because you aren't making sense. Also the AFC losses in 2014 didn't determine tiebreakers.

He's saying if the Packers lose twice and the Bucs lose once, we can't be the #1 seed. So we need the Packers to lose ONCE, not twice and the Bucs lose once. With the Cards losing today, we lost a potential team that could also finish with 4 losses, which would help us against the Bucs. We can't finish with the same record as the Bucs in a two way tie. But we can get the #1 seed over the Bucs if we finish in a three way tie.

This isn't that hard.

 

[CCBoy]

That has nothing to do with anything. The Bucs losing twice with that schedule is unlikely. The Cowboys winning out is very likely given the remaining schedule. Arizona is coming up small towards the end of the season as per usual in the past decade. But the Bucs just have to lose once and the Packers just have to lose once. If the Packers lose exactly once and the Bucs lose at least ONCE, the Cowboys winning out would grant us the #1 seed and the bye.

The purpose of this thread was to demonstrate that Arizona losing today makes a four-way tiebreaker scenario with them impossible, and now we'll need the Packers to lose one and exactly one game (not more) OR if they lose more than one game, the Rams MUST win out along with TB losing one and GB losing at least one.

Dallas will likely win out, but they need help.

This was not a prediction thread, this was a scenario mapping thread.

Right now, the Cowboys' offense would make victories against both Arizona and Philadelphia, difficult.