AZ loss to Detroit hurts us

[America's Cowboy]

That has nothing to do with anything. The Bucs losing twice with that schedule is unlikely. The Cowboys winning out is very likely given the remaining schedule. Arizona is coming up small towards the end of the season as per usual in the past decade. But the Bucs just have to lose once and the Packers just have to lose once. If the Packers lose exactly once and the Bucs lose at least ONCE, the Cowboys winning out would grant us the #1 seed and the bye.

The purpose of this thread was to demonstrate that Arizona losing today makes a four-way tiebreaker scenario with them impossible, and now we'll need the Packers to lose one and exactly one game (not more) OR if they lose more than one game, the Rams MUST win out along with TB losing one and GB losing at least one.

Dallas will likely win out, but they need help.

This was not a prediction thread, this was a scenario mapping thread.

You're contradicting yourself with your title!

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

Right now, the Cowboys' offense would make victories against both Arizona and Philadelphia, difficult.

The defense is going to pick off Murray multiple times and Jalen Hurts and Minshew are both INT fests waiting to happen.

We can win games 20-10 or 17-6, no problem. We're the 2013 Seattle Seahawks. We even got the Richard Sherman INT master in Diggs and the all world baller on defense in Parsons. Oh yeah, and the same D coordinator.

 

[JBS]

Dumb thread

 

[Sydla]

OP has no clue what he's talking about.

Yes he does.

Let's lay this out.

For the Cowboys to get the #1 seed they have three basic scenarios:

1 - Win out and then total chaos where the Packers and Bucs lose two and have 5 losses (very unlikely)
2 - Win out, have the Packers lose once and the Bucs lost twice. We win head to head with GB. (unlikely)
3 - Win out, finish in at least a 3 way tie with any combo of the Bucs, Packers and Cards (most likely)

With the Cards losing today, if we beat them in two weeks, they would have 5 losses. So they are out as a potential team that could end up in a three way tie with us. That leaves only one possibility for a three way tie - the Bucs and Packers have to finish with 4 losses. So the OP is right, with the Cards losing we can only really have the Packers lose once more because it's UNLIKELY the Bucs will lose more than once. If the Pack lose two, the Bucs lose one and we win out............ we are the 2 seed via head to head with the Bucs.

So when the OP says the AZ loss hurts us, he's technically right. By them losing, the Cards are now no longer a team that could help us get a three way tie with the Bucs. We are now left with just the Packers as that team and that means they can't lose more than one game.

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

Yes he does.

Let's lay this out.

For the Cowboys to get the #1 seed they have three basic scenarios:

1 - Win out and then total chaos where the Packers and Bucs lose two and have 5 losses (very unlikely)
2 - Win out, have the Packers lose once and the Bucs lost twice. We win head to head with GB. (unlikely)
3 - Win out, finish in at least a 3 way tie with any combo of the Bucs, Packers and Cards (most likely)

With the Cards losing today, if we beat them in two weeks, they would have 5 losses. So they are out as a potential team that could end up in a three way tie with us. That leaves only one possibility for a three way tie - the Bucs and Packers have to finish with 4 losses. So the OP is right, with the Cards losing we can only really have the Packers lose once more because it's UNLIKELY the Bucs will lose more than once. If the Pack lose two, the Bucs lose one and we win out............ we are the 2 seed via head to head with the Bucs.

So when the OP says the AZ loss hurts us, he's technically right. By them losing, the Cards are now no longer a team that could help us get a three way tie with the Bucs. We are now left with just the Packers as that team and that means they can't lose more than one game.

Exactly.

Technically there is one other possibility... the Rams could win out... but they have a very difficult schedule upcoming, so that's not likely.

 

[Silverstar]

You never know what is going to happen in the NFL nowadays folks.

For example, what if Brady or Rogers gets the (starts with a C) and are forced to miss a game and or even a playoff game?

I would lmao and say you know what karma can be a ***** sometimes. Just enjoy the ride.

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

You never know what is going to happen in the NFL nowadays folks.

For example, what if Brady or Rogers gets the (starts with a C) and are forced to miss a game and or even a playoff game?

I would lmao and say you know what karma can be a ***** sometimes. Just enjoy the ride.

Rodgers is exempt from testing through the end of the playoffs because he had it. 90 day rule. Brady is vaxed and careful but who knows.

 

[BourbonBalz]

right, I’ll take my chances with the niners over the rams/cards

I’m not so sure

right, I’ll take my chances with the niners over the rams/cards

I’m not so sure about that. The Niners run the ball well and have a stout defense. Teams that can really run the ball scare me.

 

[Sydla]

Exactly.

Technically there is one other possibility... the Rams could win out... but they have a very difficult schedule upcoming, so that's not likely.

Some people just struggle when someone posts that something that happened wasn't beneficial to the Cowboys.

Anyone who understood the playoff dynamics right now knew the Cards losing likely hurts us.

 

[Beaker42]

Still a lot that can happen, including Green Bay dropping another game.

Hoping it’s today at Baltimore.

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

Hoping it’s today at Baltimore.

Yep. Then I won't have to root against them until the playoffs. Though with how the Lions have been playing lately, none of the Packers remaining schedule games appear safe. The Browns, with the new covid policies will get most everyone back by next weekend. The Vikings are a division rival and playing for a playoff birth. The Lions are playing for pride... which Dan Campbell appears to have a lot of. And they are playing well lately.

 

[viman96]

Some people just struggle when someone posts that something that happened wasn't beneficial to the Cowboys.

Anyone who understood the playoff dynamics right now knew the Cards losing likely hurts us.

Still plenty of football to play before worrying about what ifs. Cards losing today is good for Dallas.

 

[ErikWilliamsHeadSlap]

The seeding doesnt matter.

When this team is clicking on all cylinders they are good enough to beat any team, anywhere, in any conditions.

When they are clicking they aint good enough to beat any playoff team anywhere in any conditions.

Just get this O in sync and let's go.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

True.

I'm not even considering the #1 overall seed, because the Buccaneers are not going to lose 2 games.

The best the Cowboys can get is the #2 seed.

You should have been more clear in your title.

That's not true. Bucs don't win the tiebreaker over Dallas if its a 3 or 4 way tie. GB and Tampa only need to lose 1 game and daks wins out. That would be a 4 way tie and Dallas gets 1 seed.

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

The seeding doesnt matter.

When this team is clicking on all cylinders they are good enough to beat any team, anywhere, in any conditions.

When they are clicking they aint good enough to beat any playoff team anywhere in any conditions.

Just get this O in sync and let's go.

Dallas won't be able to throw deep passes in a cold, windy, potentially snowy Lambeau environment.

Prescott's splits in cold weather vs. warm or indoors are pretty gargantuan. Today another one of those cold, windy days, though nothing like Northeast Wisconsin in mid-late January.

Environment does matter, like it or not. Prescott, born and raised in the Deep South, was able to post good stats at Tampa in week 1 against a great defense for a reason. Denver stinker loss aside, he's been superb at home. Arizona and LA play indoors and TB plays in a toasty winter environment.

There's one stadium that a Dak Prescott-led offense does not want to go to in January, under any circumstances... it's not Jerryworld, either.

 

[jterrell]

ARI losing helps us.
But all that matters now is we help ourselves because we control our own destiny.

 

[America's Cowboy]

That's not true. Bucs don't win the tiebreaker over Dallas if its a 3 or 4 way tie. GB and Tampa only need to lose 1 game and daks wins out. That would be a 4 way tie and Dallas gets 1 seed.

That's not what I was implying since I strongly don't believe the Buccaneers will lose any of their remaining games.

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

That's not what I was implying since I strongly don't believe the Buccaneers will lose any of their remaining games.

They will lose one.

Two is definitely overly optimistic.

But they will lose one.

Which one? Who knows.

They will lose one.

 

[America's Cowboy]

They will lose one.

Two is definitely overly optimistic.

But they will lose one.

Which one? Who knows.

They will lose one.

Whatever. Keep dreaming.

The Bucs won't lose, thus destroying your thread.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

That's not what I was implying since I strongly don't believe the Buccaneers will lose any of their remaining games.

Did you strongly believe that Arizona would beat Detroit?

Plus you know Brady has never beaten the saints as a buccaneer