Babe Laufenberg's thoughts...going from good to great.

[Eskimo]

I just really don't get why the pro-Roy crowd is so convinced that he is going to return to his 3rd year form. That was 3 full seasons ago and he was mediocre in 2007, very bad in 2008 (for a #2 WR while in Dallas) and very bad again in 2009 (for a #1 WR, that is).

At some point, you have to stop living on past glory. I just don't see the skills that will make him a great weapon again. He is not particularly fast on the field (maybe on the track he still is), he has minimal quickness, he runs poor routes, he adjusts routes poorly, he cannot catch the ball under tight coverage, he has inconsistent hands and he has alligator arms over the middle. I just don't see how you are going to make a great WR out of this guy and that is what he needs to be to justify the $9M/yr contract. He is surviving because there are large guaranteed costs that we are still paying off. To stay on the team right now he just needs to be one of the top 4 WRs. Once the guaranteed portion of the contract is eaten and he has large yearly salaries his production will need to match his pay or he will be cut.

I think he has one more season here so we can develop Ogletree and hopefully another rookie or UDFA. My hunch is by the second half of the season he will be #4 on the depth chart and riding the pine as Romo will demand someone else go in at the #2 spot. If he becomes a distraction he will be relased. Otherwise, he will be released next offseason.

 

[Joe_Fan]

http://pod08.prospero.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?webtag=ktvt_bullpen
3) Roy Williams? Wow, He was simply unproductive, and the Cowboys are going to have to make the hard decision. Do we play Roy because of what we gave him and what we gave up to get him, or do we play the best player? Kevin Ogletree was so much better than Roy this year that it wasn’t even close. The kid may be a real player. They waited four years to unleash Miles Austin on the rest of the league. They can’t wait that long for Ogletree. I was really hoping that someone (Jerry? Wade? Jason Garrett?) would go to Roy and say, “We have to play the best player right now, and that is Kevin Ogletree.” That didn’t happen. Roy Williams is a limited player. The Cowboys need to accept that it was a bad trade, and not be burdened by that trade. Bad trades happen. Bad drafts happen. You move on. Organizations have to make the hard decision. They made it with Terrell Owens. Now they need to make it with Roy. That doesn’t necessarily mean release him, but it does mean you tell him he will have to earn his spot next year, that his starting role is not a Supreme Court Lifetime Appointment. Moreover, while we are on the wide receiver position, they need to take one high in this year’s draft. The NFL has become a passing league, and you have to have somebody to throw it to. The greatest contribution…and let me make this clear…you do not want to see an injury to anyone…was Roy getting hurt in Denver and missing the Kansas City game, allowing Miles Austin to let people know that he could play a little. No injury, no Miles, and maybe, no playoffs.

Amen!

 

[jimmy40]

Babe is a homer fan.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

But look at things on face value. He took over a 9-7 team

Very misleading quote by Babe here. It was clear that the team Bill Parcells left was on the upswing with the emergence of Tony Romo.

Wade Phillips inherited an extremely talented roster.

 

[Doomsday101]

Very misleading quote by Babe here. It was clear that the team Bill Parcells left was on the upswing with the emergence of Tony Romo.

Wade Phillips inherited an extremely talented roster.

There are 11 different starters on this team since Wade took over. BP did leave this team on an upswing I take nothing away from BP on that but this team still had allot of holes in it when BP left.

 

[zrinkill]

Very misleading quote by Babe here.

I do not think so.

They were

10-6
6-10
9-7
9-7

The Lions have a lot of talent too

Bill Parcells was no longer a good enough coach to get the talent where it needs to be.


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[adbutcher]

Excellent stuff. Babe is extremely underrated and deserves more national recognition/opportunities.

Indeed but he will never go big time unless he follows the recipe of having some type of hate agenda.

Good thing Babe has character and strong enough convictions to not go down the dark path to espn.

 

[trueblue1687]

You can't really argue with Babe about Ogletree being better than Roy this year. The few times we actually put Ogletree in the game and threw him the ball, he made plays. Freakish sideline tippy toe grab, screen plays, etc. Even when we called plays for Roy he didn't scare anybody.

That's partially true, but not comletely. To be sure, Roy did his share to contributr to his problems - not really defending him on that -but...he did draw dbl coverage at times, showing that teams respected him. To his defense, he didn't exactly get many chances vs the vikes (nobody except Witten really got consistent looks, and that was usually 8 to 10 yd passes). Teams still respect Roy, even if the fans and his QB don't. I think his confidence is the greatest hurdle for Roy, and then the routes they call for him. Look at some of his Detroit footage and see how he was used. As far as Ogletree, I agree the guy is good now and will be better with time. I can see him knocking the overrated Sam Hurd off the team.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Very misleading quote by Babe here. It was clear that the team Bill Parcells left was on the upswing with the emergence of Tony Romo.

"You are what your record says you are."

 

[Seven]

Now this is an article. GREAT read.


26-9 TD to INT ratio? That's incredible.

 

[jobberone]

I don't know about deserving anything but he'll get his shot at the number 2 next year.

I'd like to see us draft a WR with one of the top three picks.

 

[jobberone]

Now this is an article. GREAT read.


26-9 TD to INT ratio? That's incredible.

The ratio is good but not nearly enough TDs thrown considering how many yards he threw for.

 

[Eskimo]

I don't know about deserving anything but he'll get his shot at the number 2 next year.

I'd like to see us draft a WR with one of the top three picks.

I wouldn't be entirely against such a move.

However, I think OL, ILB and Safety are probably higher on the need scale right now due to the fact there is positive sentiment regarding Ogletree and we still have RW11. So we are 4-deep at WR. We could use another developmental prospect as Sam Hurd has shown he is a good ST guy with questionable hands. However, he has shown he can play in a pinch so replacing him isn't crucial. I guess the other factor is what the FO thinks of Holley and Manny Johnson on the PS.

 

[burmafrd]

Jerruh will insist that Roy be giving a full shot this coming year and he is right to do so. For all the talk about Ogletree he still has a lot to learn and until he does he is UNPROVEN. every WR has strengths and weaknesses and its up to the OC to make the offense work to everyones strenghts and avoid the weaknesses. Frankly that is one thing that Garrett has not yet shown is the ability to put it all together. Roy has very good hands and that is BS about alligator arms. He is fast but not quick, due to his size. Garrett needs to figure out exactly what plays make use of Roy's strengths while avoiding his weaknesses. I do not see Dallas drafting any WRs except maybe late. We have plenty right now to get the job done IF THEY ARE ALL USED RIGHT.

 

[jobberone]

I wouldn't be entirely against such a move.

However, I think OL, ILB and Safety are probably higher on the need scale right now due to the fact there is positive sentiment regarding Ogletree and we still have RW11. So we are 4-deep at WR. We could use another developmental prospect as Sam Hurd has shown he is a good ST guy with questionable hands. However, he has shown he can play in a pinch so replacing him isn't crucial. I guess the other factor is what the FO thinks of Holley and Manny Johnson on the PS.

The offense needs to score more points otherwise we'll fall short again next year. The OL and a WR are important esp a WR that can contribute.

 

[Eskimo]

Jerruh will insist that Roy be giving a full shot this coming year and he is right to do so. For all the talk about Ogletree he still has a lot to learn and until he does he is UNPROVEN. every WR has strengths and weaknesses and its up to the OC to make the offense work to everyones strenghts and avoid the weaknesses. Frankly that is one thing that Garrett has not yet shown is the ability to put it all together. Roy has very good hands and that is BS about alligator arms. He is fast but not quick, due to his size. Garrett needs to figure out exactly what plays make use of Roy's strengths while avoiding his weaknesses. I do not see Dallas drafting any WRs except maybe late. We have plenty right now to get the job done IF THEY ARE ALL USED RIGHT.

You can continue to be in denial but there was clear video evidence of it this year in one of the games shortly after Denver - maybe Atlanta?

That Landry knucklehead called him out for being a sissy which is a major sign of disrespect for an opponent.

Roy is not what he used to be and he will never be that guy again. The league knows he can only run two routes and they sit on them knowing that he doesn't have the speed to blow by them anymore. He is a has been. He doesn't have the work ethic to improve and his physical gifts are rapidly diminishing from atrophy.

 

[burmafrd]

your opinion is just that.

 

[Eskimo]

your opinion is just that.

blah blah blah......

 

[burmafrd]

you know what they say about opinions- and yours is worth no more then anyone elses.

To say a player cannot do what he once did is STUPID. Unless there is injury or age of COURSE HE CAN DO IT AGAIN. Warner was thought to be done 5 years ago and gee look what happened. THere are examples ever year of that- every hear of the Comeback Award?

 

[Everlastingxxx]

That was pretty good. Have to agree with Babe on his points.

I know some are tired of talking about Roy, but until that position gets resolved, this team will not improve next season.