Babe: Time To Seriously Consider Cutting McClain

[tyke1doe]

You want morality go to church. Dude did something 60% of his peers did. Of course your decision is to use McClain's suspension to attack actual fans of the team because that's your bit.

So we should only be concerned about morality in church?

 

[silver]

Just saying, McClain would of fit right in on the teams that made him famous.

The current staff didnt want to deal with the headache. We'll see if they remain patient with his antics on the practice field and missing time with misterious ailments this time around.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Because you can't depend on him. Who needs a guy like that?

It's like you don't know what world you live in. Talent gets you many chances. And Ro is talented. Arguing against this simple fact is silly, shortsighted and futile.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

So we should only be concerned about morality in church?

No. But i'm also not going to get self-righteous over a guy smoking weed.

 

[robjay04]

The current staff didnt want to deal with the headache. We'll see if they remain patient with his antics on the practice field and missing time with misterious ailments this time around.

Just commenting on Johnson's comments only. He always had a few players that were "dumb" off the field and may have never won a championship without them.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Has nothing to do with holding someone to a higher standard than you hold your self to, but everything to do with his baggage. He has twice retired from the NFL, which is a huge red flag that he was not willing to put in the work to be great and twice this offseason, he has failed drug tests, which again shows that football is not near the top of his priorities list. To be honest, we won't be as good on paper without McClain, but I can definitely do without a half interested McClain.

Understood.

Season hasn't started yet.

He's bored. Lol

 

[Section446]

We would have had to overpay to keep him. We haven't done business like that in several years.

We're about to overpay for a certain WR (if rumors are to be believed).

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

So lash out at those disappointed by the screw-up rather than the person who caused it?

No lashing on 4th of July lol

 

[robjay04]

We're about to overpay for a certain WR (if rumors are to be believed).

Overpaying for an elite talent is better than overpaying for an inconsistent, above average player.

 

[AbeBeta]

It's like you don't know what world you live in. Talent gets you many chances. And Ro is talented. Arguing against this simple fact is silly, shortsighted and futile.

He is talented. But if you can't depend on him then what is the point of having him on contract? He already knew what another positive test would get him. He clearly doesn't care. This suspension basically wipes out all his salary escalators - so clearly the financial losses don't bother him.

I love the talent but enough is enough

 

[darthseinfeld]

I'm still stuck on this

How do you figure he is any better then James is

 

[AbeBeta]

We're about to overpay for a certain WR (if rumors are to be believed).

No. We are about to pay market value for a certain WR

 

[TwoDeep3]

You want morality go to church. Dude did something 60% of his peers did. Of course your decision is to use McClain's suspension to attack actual fans of the team because that's your bit.

Lots of hyperbole in your reply, Especially stating a percentage of players doing something that might not stand up under any real scrutiny. But what is more important here is you missed the point. Your rush to tell me off ignores this guy brought this with him when he arrived. This is about getting on the field and advancing the team. He was a question mark when they signed him. He is even more so now.

All the potential in the world means nothing if he cannot deliver. If demanding players show up, get on the field, and make the team better is somehow forbidden in your world, then more power to you.

But in my world this is about championships. Because that is the only truly successful season. And if this guy who seems to be able to behave as he chooses, and will sit out games because of that behavior, how can his skill set offset being in street clothes.

I backed Irvin even in his dark days because he consistently delivered. This guy hasn't performed well enough, or been uninjured enough to garner any slack or respect.

As far as my bit, stop being hypocrites and I then have nothing to point out.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Lots of hyperbole in your reply, Especially stating a percentage of players doing something that might not stand up under any real scrutiny. But what is more important here is you missed the point. Your rush to tell me off ignores this guy brought this with him when he arrived. This is about getting on the field and advancing the team. He was a question mark when they signed him. He is even more so now.

All the potential in the world means nothing if he cannot deliver. If demanding players show up, get on the field, and make the team better is somehow forbidden in your world, then more power to you.

But in my world this is about championships. Because that is the only truly successful season. And if this guy who seems to be able to behave as he chooses, and will sit out games because of that behavior, how can his skill set offset being in street clothes.

I backed Irvin even in his dark days because he consistently delivered. This guy hasn't performed well enough, or been uninjured enough to garner any slack or respect.

As far as my bit, stop being hypocrites and I then have nothing to point out.

Your world is right. Your response to Rolando McClain being suspended for drug use was to attack Cowboy fans who might hypothetically defend him. The only way that makes sense is if you're living in your own world. No one cares about the standards of some guy on the Internet who claims to be a fan but hates everything about the team.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Maybe not over the body of James' work he wasn't better than McClain last season, but 2008 Bradie James was better than 2014 Rolondo McClain.

And 2014 has been the only good season McClain has had

 

[silver]

Just commenting on Johnson's comments only. He always had a few players that were "dumb" off the field and may have never won a championship without them.

Not dumb enough to get caught. Not during his stay anyway. Later during Switzer's time was another story.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Why do people try and use that stupid comment as to why someone shouldn't be given yet another chance?

It doesn't matter that no one is perfect. That's just absolutely the dumbest reasoning for not giving an opinion on a *******, multiple time, knucklehead screw up.

I'm not perfect. By any means. But you know what I don't do? I don't break the law and I don't do stupid **** that can get me suspended/fired from my job. I especially wouldn't be doing those dumb things if my job was paying me six figure salaries.

The fact that no one is perfect does not change the fact that McClain is a world class freaking idiot who doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt anymore. He's had chance after chance after chance in the league. Does he deserve another? No. He doesn't. Will he get one? Yes, and that's fine, cause that's what the team wants to do.

But if they wanted to cut him at this point, because he's more than proven himself a moron who can not be relied on, then I wouldn't be upset in the least. The guy will screw up again, without question, and next time he'll be out for the majority of a season because he's too stupid to get out of his own way.

Hopefully that 10+ game suspension will be some other teams problem.

I hear ya....

Meh..... The flavor of the week, month... Year.... "Hang 'em high".... "Let him go"

Not too long ago it was..... "Everybody deserves 2nd and 3rd chances"



Need I remind you. He was pulled out of retirement? This is on us.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Your world is right. Your response to Rolando McClain being suspended for drug use was to attack Cowboy fans who might hypothetically defend him. The only way that makes sense is if you're living in your own world.

First off, I said the same things about this player when he was signed. He was a high risk player that brought some talent. But questioned the risk reward aspect concerning his behavior. I was assured this was low risk high reward. Fact is there were some making the same noises you are now about him and my take.

He doesn't like to practice, will pull himself out of games, and while he does deliver some outstanding plays, his inconsistency in demeanor and his behavior - including drug use - makes him less than ideal. He can win a ball game for you with his play. But unlike other players who deliver consistently, he is on again off again.

Now he is off for four games, and the excuse is 60% of the players are like this so shine it on. I cannot justify his skill versus his missing time. A lesser player that does not get suspended, is on the field.

Your slant is I set this up to ridicule other fans here. You have to assume a great deal to make that statement. Your comments show this is not foreign to you to assume.

You deride me for pointing out a bit of hypocrisy of others here.

So tell me about your screen name and how that has implications that some here are not really Cowboy fans. I believe you have suggested that about me once. Glass houses, bro.

 

[conner01]

No. But i'm also not going to get self-righteous over a guy smoking weed.

Fans opinions on weed don't really matter
The point is. It's against the rules so it hurts the player and the team
Should the rule be changed is a whole different argument
I could care less if a guy smokes weed other than the fact it can cost him games
Not judging him over smoking weed just the fact he broke the rules and caused him to be unavailable to help the team
I suspect a good portion of us here have sampled in a little weed, probably a good portion still do. But that's not really the point since most aren't calling for him to be cut because he smoked weed but because he broke a rule that caused him to miss games
I'm not for cutting him myself but I probably would not bring him back after this year
Not because he gets high which I could care less about, but because he makes decisions that not only hurts him financially but hurts the team

 

[CF74]

Did Ro ever have 116 tackles, 8 sacks, 4 Passes Defensed, and 3 Forced Fumbles in a single season like James did in 2008?

James did have a great year with the sacks when Wad brought back the bear that one season that later got exposed but the rest of his career he was just a liability in pass coverage. He was best suited for short yardage goal line type situations but got burned by full backs, TE's, and everyone else quite often...

Did he ever make diving catches like this? There's absolutely no comparison in the physical talent between the two...