Babe: Time To Seriously Consider Cutting McClain

[Hoofbite]

You want morality go to church. Dude did something 60% of his peers did. Of course your decision is to use McClain's suspension to attack actual fans of the team because that's your bit.

Does it really matter how many of his peers are doing it? 60% of his peers aren't getting suspended for it.

I'm not even sure that people care what it was that he actually did. I know I don't, but the fact remains he's now unable to help the team for the 1st month of the season.

Yes, we all know that weed is prevalent in society. We can all see the writing on the wall about widespread legalization. That's not the point, and I don't think anyone is even arguing any of that.

The point is, rules are rules and laws are laws. Whether or not we like them we have to abide by them. At bare minimum he needs to do whatever else 60% of his peers are doing to avoid getting caught.

Nobody is saying he should be cut because of his drug of choice. He should be cut because he's once again proven that he's unreliable, uncommitted, and undisciplined. He doesn't care. There's just no need to waste time hoping he starts to care when it's insultingly obvious that he doesn't and when he's shown no intention on changing that.

I can't believe people are willing to waste more time on him. It's like they're begging this guy to let them down again.

Some sort of twisted Battered Fan Syndrome going on.

 

[iRepDatStar]

I'd rather give TC snaps to people who will actually be here and help the team, people who can be relied on. Of course McClain is notorious for not wanting to practice, so maybe that's not as much of an issue.

So did you want to cut scandrick last year ?

 

[Kaiser]

My issue with him is simple, I hate to see the team giving all or most of the first team snaps in training camp to a guy who's this unreliable. I'd rather use that same time and effort to get one of the other guys ready to play at a higher level.

I trust Marinelli and Eberflus to have the LB core ready to start the season. And knowing McClain is facing a suspension, I'm sure they will give Brinkley a lot more reps with the first team. Given McClain's injury history and background, I'm sure they would have anyway. That's why they gave significant contracts to Brinkley and Gotchkar in the first place.

 

[JDSmith]

So did you want to cut scandrick last year ?

Totally different. Scandrick failed ONE test, Ro has now failed at least 3 or 4. He has continued to fail tests when he's in the program, which indicates that he either doesn't have a handle on his urges or he's just too damned dumb to be counted on.

Scandrick failed the one test and that would have gotten him into stage 1 of the program, which only involves more testing for a 90 day period. He was only suspended 4 games because there was an amphetamine component in the ecstasy he took, which switched it to a PED offense.

 

[iRepDatStar]

Did Ro ever have 116 tackles, 8 sacks, 4 Passes Defensed, and 3 Forced Fumbles in a single season like James did in 2008?

So all we gunna do is look at numbers? We didn't even make the playoffs in 08. Bradie did not have the presence on the field that RO has. 4th and 2 against the giants last year, would bradie had been strong enough to stop the wr in his tracks to close the game for us. Our whole defense was hitting better when RO came around. It was like the rest of the D felt that they had the muscle because of Ro being as big as he is and as violent as he was. The rest of the defense followed suit and I believe that the linebackers played as well as they did because of Ro's presence

 

[guag]

Did Ro ever have 116 tackles, 8 sacks, 4 Passes Defensed, and 3 Forced Fumbles in a single season like James did in 2008?

With Ro, it's not just about stats. Not even close. He brings intangibles to the field that 95% of linebackers in the NFL can't. He plays with a certain ferocity that has ball carriers fear... no one wants to get hit by McClain. His presence alone changes the attitude of the defense, and might make opponents a little more hesitant about going his way.

So all we gunna do is look at numbers? We didn't even make the playoffs in 08. Bradie did not have the presence on the field that RO has. 4th and 2 against the giants last year, would bradie had been strong enough to stop the wr in his tracks to close the game for us. Our whole defense was hitting better when RO came around. It was like the rest of the D felt that they had the muscle because of Ro being as big as he is and as violent as he was. The rest of the defense followed suit and I believe that the linebackers played as well as they did because of Ro's presence

100% agree, you beat me to it.

 

[Kaiser]

So all we gunna do is look at numbers? We didn't even make the playoffs in 08. Bradie did not have the presence on the field that RO has.

Also 2008 was the season where DWare had 20 sacks and others like Rat and Ellis had more than 7. Plus we had a good secondary with TNew, both of those things will let an inside LB flow to the ball for a ton of tackles.

 

[Nightman]

So all we gunna do is look at numbers? We didn't even make the playoffs in 08. Bradie did not have the presence on the field that RO has. 4th and 2 against the giants last year, would bradie had been strong enough to stop the wr in his tracks to close the game for us. Our whole defense was hitting better when RO came around. It was like the rest of the D felt that they had the muscle because of Ro being as big as he is and as violent as he was. The rest of the defense followed suit and I believe that the linebackers played as well as they did because of Ro's presence

With Ro, it's not just about stats. Not even close. He brings intangibles to the field that 95% of linebackers in the NFL can't. He plays with a certain ferocity that has ball carriers fear... no one wants to get hit by McClain. His presence alone changes the attitude of the defense, and might make opponents a little more hesitant about going his way

I gotta call bs on that

The numbers are the numbers, they speak for themselves

This growing myth that RoMc scared or intimidated the other team with his mere presence is getting silly

 

[SportsGuru80]

Please cut his *** and be done with the whole situation... His talent isn't worth the headache IMO.

 

[AbeBeta]

He was a bigger risk last season and we got 13 games and 81 tackles out of him. The team has insurance in place with Brinkley and Gotchkar, why would the team throw away the upside McClain might give them for nothing? If he does step on his crank again, cut him immediately. If he doesn't, he will give you above average play at a key position.

No. A guy who dropped two positive drug tests after resurecting his career is a much bigger threat.

 

[tyke1doe]

Is smoking weed a question of morality?

Is still illegal, right?

 

[Kaiser]

No. A guy who dropped two positive drug tests after resurecting his career is a much bigger threat.

Nope. The guy that quit on football and had a bunch of legal problems a year ago - and was smoking weed - was a bigger risk than a guy who started 13 games for this team last year.

 

[Kaiser]

Is still illegal, right?

Depends on the State. Its legal in CO and OR, and where I live in CA its legal with a prescription that you can get for "stress", which means its legal. And in LA the police don't even ticket people for it even if they don't have a prescription.

 

[SuspectCorner]

If your potentially lucrative career as a professional athlete - a career that tends to be relatively brief - is dependent upon your resistance to such distractions as drug and alcohol abuse, women to whom you are NOT married (but only IF you are married - unless you are fathering a child out of wedlock at a rate of more of than one per decade), PEDs, and various other forms of league, state, and federally non-sanctioned behavior... you will find little in the way of moral support from the average working-class fan. Most fans would probably be willing to live a life well above their own moral standards - sacrificing earthly desires in order to reap such relative riches. At least for that short duration.

 

[Seven]

Wow. Reading thru all this....minus the weed, as much could be said about Sean Lee. In a its all about on the field, performance, championship kind of way.

 

[Tabascocat]

Wow. Reading thru all this....minus the weed, as much could be said about Sean Lee. In a its all about on the field, performance, championship kind of way.

Lee is not going to jeopardize his career off-the-field unlike Ro......that is the difference.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I gotta call bs on that

The numbers are the numbers, they speak for themselves

This growing myth that RoMc scared or intimidated the other team with his mere presence is getting silly

Plus if McClain was asked to play the way James did, he'd be in IR in two weeks

 

[rpntex]

You want morality go to church. Dude did something 60% of his peers did. Of course your decision is to use McClain's suspension to attack actual fans of the team because that's your bit.

What his peers do is irrelevant. McClain was in stage two of the league's substance abuse policy, yet he CHOSE to knowingly violate the policy again.

It's not the act that I have an issue with...it's the stupidity he exhibits in his decision-making ability.

 

[CyberB0b]

I guess now we know why he didn't seem to get much interest in the off season from other teams. Add this crap on top of his arson investigation and multiple retirements, and maybe the juice isn't worth the squeeze. With that said, I don't trust Jasper Brinkley as a full time starter, and I don't trust Lee to stay healthy all year. Wait until after the season is over to cut bait.

 

[tyke1doe]

Depends on the State. Its legal in CO and OR, and where I live in CA its legal with a prescription that you can get for "stress", which means its legal. And in LA the police don't even ticket people for it even if they don't have a prescription.

Well, reading his background, weed is the least of his problems. But thank you for the feed back.