Babe: Time To Seriously Consider Cutting McClain

[Sasquatch]

RoMac is providing enough of a return to keep. For now.

I would love to just cut the fool, tool, but this seems the more pragmatic perspective.

 

[tyke1doe]

No. But i'm also not going to get self-righteous over a guy smoking weed.

Was Ro suspended for smoking weed? Last time, he was cited by the NFL for doing PCP, no?

 

[xwalker]

Is still illegal, right?

Do laws determine morality?

It is legal in some locations.

Were alcohol drinkers immoral during prohibition but moral afterwards?

 

[JDSmith]

I don't really care about what Ro does in his spare time as long as he's not hurting anyone else. I couldn't care less if the guy walks around with one of those wheeled IV bags and a perpetual heroin drip, as long as he's not stupid enough to get caught by the league and suspended. If he shows up and plays well, doesn't hurt anyone else, and avoids getting caught - great, have at it. It's his life and he can screw it up any way he wants. My issue is only with the fact that he was actually dumb enough to get himself popped and his absence will hurt the team. And the fact that he was actually this dumb or out of control is a huge red flag in light of the fact that he was caught less than 5 months ago.

Morality? Pfft, each person has his own moral compass, and I'm certainly not fit to judge whether recreational drug use is acceptable for someone else. I like my reality fine just the way it is, but to each his own.

 

[Nightman]

I don't really care about what Ro does in his spare time as long as he's not hurting anyone else. I couldn't care less if the guy walks around with one of those wheeled IV bags and a perpetual heroin drip, as long as he's not stupid enough to get caught by the league and suspended. If he shows up and plays well, doesn't hurt anyone else, and avoids getting caught - great, have at it. It's his life and he can screw it up any way he wants. My issue is only with the fact that he was actually dumb enough to get himself popped and his absence will hurt the team. And the fact that he was actually this dumb or out of control is a huge red flag in light of the fact that he was caught less than 5 months ago.

Morality? Pfft, each person has his own moral compass, and I'm certainly not fit to judge whether recreational drug use is acceptable for someone else. I like my reality fine just the way it is, but to each his own.

And that is why he was signed to a 1 yr deal with a 750k base. Brinkley was also signed cheaply and Hitchens and Wilson are recent draft picks. They have this thing surrounded.

 

[JDSmith]

And that is why he was signed to a 1 yr deal with a 750k base. Brinkley was also signed cheaply and Hitchens and Wilson are recent draft picks. They have this thing surrounded.

Yeah, it's a good thing the coaching staff wasn't putting too many eggs in the Ro McClain basket. Some of the players might be idiots, but the coaching staff seems to be pretty damned smart.

 

[TwoDeep3]

For me this is not about the substance. Nor the region specific legality. His behavior is more than just toasting a joint occasionally.

But he does take himself out of plays. Is injured, which seems to be the kiss of death to some around these parts. It is stated he doesn't like to practice, but loves to play. That is fine if that is all there is. But compound this with his off-season workouts which are removed from the facility - and that in and of itself is not detrimental - and you begin to see a pattern of his lack of respect for the club.

What I always ask in regard to players who dance to their own beat is this. Does the play on the field offset what he brings in personal choices which fly in the face of what is expected.

Michael Irvin is a prime example of a player who had demons, and did sit out a number of games because of it. He disrupted a season with his behavior.

But he also was the heart and soul of a team that won championships. The math is simple with Irvin.

I see Sean Lee not in this category, but in one adjacent in that he is not on the field. I don't see him as disruptive in his behavior and does have a value added aspect to his sideline demeanor. Lee can and does coach 'em up when he misses game time.

RoMc came with baggage. That baggage is increasing as the days go by. He is now missing one quarter of the season because of his decision making.

Does his play, which is great at some points and not so great at others, make up for his behavior and missing games. This is borderline for me. Next man up does have the potential of a guy who will not miss games, or have a questionable attitude, and be a team player.

If RoMc was of the stature of Lawrence Taylor, Mike Singletary, or any stellar linebacker that delivers when on the field in a consistently great level, then this is a no brainer. But from what I've seen by this player, his consistency married with the feeling he could implode at any moment makes him so borderline, it's almost not worth the effort.

It's not about pot, per se. But the entire package of hit and miss which gives me pause.

 

[Nightman]

For me this is not about the substance. Nor the region specific legality. His behavior is more than just toasting a joint occasionally.

But he does take himself out of plays. Is injured, which seems to be the kiss of death to some around these parts. It is stated he doesn't like to practice, but loves to play. That is fine if that is all there is. But compound this with his off-season workouts which are removed from the facility - and that in and of itself is not detrimental - and you begin to see a pattern of his lack of respect for the club.

What I always ask in regard to players who dance to their own beat is this. Does the play on the field offset what he brings in personal choices which fly in the face of what is expected.

Michael Irvin is a prime example of a player who had demons, and did sit out a number of games because of it. He disrupted a season with his behavior.

But he also was the heart and soul of a team that won championships. The math is simple with Irvin.

I see Sean Lee not in this category, but in one adjacent in that he is not on the field. I don't see him as disruptive in his behavior and does have a value added aspect to his sideline demeanor. Lee can and does coach 'em up when he misses game time.

RoMc came with baggage. That baggage is increasing as the days go by. He is now missing one quarter of the season because of his decision making.

Does his play, which is great at some points and not so great at others, make up for his behavior and missing games. This is borderline for me. Next man up does have the potential of a guy who will not miss games, or have a questionable attitude, and be a team player.

If RoMc was of the stature of Lawrence Taylor, Mike Singletary, or any stellar linebacker that delivers when on the field in a consistently great level, then this is a no brainer. But from what I've seen by this player, his consistency married with the feeling he could implode at any moment makes him so borderline, it's almost not worth the effort.

It's not about pot, per se. But the entire package of hit and miss which gives me pause.

He is not even close to HoF worthy on the field. He is a nice player, maybe Pro Bowl when healthy.

 

[CATCH17]

I don't mind having a few of these guys on the team..

The staff and PR people get paid a lot of money to deal with a few guys like this.

 

[DFWJC]

Fwiw, as actions speak way louder than words;
I liked his apology. It seemed sincere and remorseful.
Who knows, maybe it finally set in that he let down people who were really trusting him. I have no idea.
He also said he can't wait to help Dallas beat New England in week 5.

 

[TwoDeep3]

He is not even close to HoF worthy on the field. He is a nice player, maybe Pro Bowl when healthy.

I hope I was not drawing a link between this guy and Irvin. I was using an example of a guy you can tolerate questionable behavior in Irvin. RoMc, not even within a galaxy away to that stature.

 

[Nightman]

I hope I was not drawing a link between this guy and Irvin. I was using an example of a guy you can tolerate questionable behavior in Irvin. RoMc, not even within a galaxy away to that stature.

No you were clear, just following up on your examples

 

[TwoDeep3]

Fwiw, as actions speak way louder than words;
I liked his apology. It seemed sincere and remorseful.
Who knows, maybe it finally set in that he let down people who were really trusting him. I have no idea.
He also said he can't wait to help Dallas beat New England in week 5.

Didn't he also make comments when he was signed here that this is the place to be and he feels great about the franchise.

I remember Dolemite saying " I can see your lips moving, Unc, but can't hear a c*******ing word you say."

 

[big dog cowboy]

What his peers do is irrelevant. McClain was in stage two of the league's substance abuse policy, yet he CHOSE to knowingly violate the policy again.

It's not the act that I have an issue with...it's the stupidity he exhibits in his decision-making ability.

 

[gambit187]

Pulling for this go, but he gotta get it together. His price on his next contract just went down.

 

[gambit187]

I would say hang on to him with cheap thin thread. He is probably one of the most talented low cost insurance policies in the league.
It's a shame he's apparently not smart enough to know how much money his behavior is costing him. Idiot!

You are dead on with what you wrote. I feel you 1000%....cheap/great talent with a low risk 1 year contract. Even if he is a boy scout all year long and has a great season he has cost his himself millions on his next contract.

 

[gimmesix]

Why the rush.

Because he's costing us so much. Oh wait ...

 

[gimmesix]

That's the part most do not understand, this guy new the consequences and chose to continue. He's been nothing more than a huge distraction everywhere he's been, cut him today. This is a young team striving for greatness, we don't need this crap and we don't need him.

I think he's the type of talent you prepare to do without (which the Cowboys did during the offseason), but give every chance to contribute at a low-risk cost (which the Cowboys are).

McClain is costing himself in the pocketbook. That's his penalty for being a knucklehead. There's no reason to punish the team by cutting a player who can help it, even if it's for 12 games instead of 16.

McClain is primarily self-destructive. The team has set it up so that if he destroys himself, there's little collateral damage.

If he expands to being a cancer for the team or affecting others besides himself in society, that's when I think you cut the cord.

 

[tyke1doe]

Do laws determine morality?

It is legal in some locations.

Were alcohol drinkers immoral during prohibition but moral afterwards?

Laws are a good indication of morality.

 

[risco]

Maybe not over the body of James' work he wasn't better than McClain last season, but 2008 Bradie James was better than 2014 Rolondo McClain.

Look bro- I'm not McClain advocate, but he's better than Brady on any day. Ponder this- if they both came out of college the same year, who would you take? I think the answer is easy.