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superpunk

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Mmmmmmmm...this thread completely fills my RDA of despair, envy, and Parcells is an egomaniacal ******. Thanks for the extra little delicious helping of depression. It went down fantastic with my grapefruit.....
 

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Parcells has made a world of difference already. You can tell that this team has a chance to win every game while you can't say that about any other Cowboy team back to 1996.

Other teams had injuries, but not to players vital to their schemes. New England lost Seymour, their most vital defensive player, but he came back.

Dallas lost Flozell Adams, a vital cog and even more so with Bledsoe and Petitti on the team, after week 5. Nobody lost a player of that calibre on the OL and continued on for long.

Look at the two teams left in the playoffs, each had the best left side of the OL in their respective conference. Coincidence? I don't think so.
 

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You're really leaving out alot of our secret rebuilding program, Henson gets the sh$% beat out of him in NFL Europe, they steal our offensive coordinator, we don't take the chance on Dat Nguyen as a lb coach and he ends up as the next defensive guru somewhere, we don't get a kicking coach, you know waste of $$, BP is a kicking genius don't ya know, oh yeah BP is toooo busy "solidifying his coaching staff" to come to the Senior Bowl--note to BP there are alot of coaches here looking for work, sorry but our offseason so far blows as did our stretch run, I'm getting tired of excuses too, nobody else gets away with that in the Not For Long League, we need to make some positive moves somewhere... oh yeah and the good offensive coordinators have left the building..
 

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ravidubey said:
Look at the two teams left in the playoffs, each had the best left side of the OL in their respective conference. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Nor is it a coincidence that when Pittsburgh had their LT go down during the year for three weeks they couldn't move the ball, and were much less effective running it. Yeah, that's right. Pittsburgh. The AFC's representative in the super bowl.
 

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Good to see you back David. Your opinions are always thought out and honest, a little too negative for a homer like me at times, but I do enjoy them.
 

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I certainly have my reservations about Parcells. Some things puzzle me.

But the opinions that started this thread are just too absolute. Parcells wants subpar coaches on his staff? Payton's multiple interviews and ultimate hire as Saints HC kind of puts a hole in that theory. Carthon too. Let's not pretend that that every other NFL club is having all their assistants hired as HC's.

Now does that mean Parcells has my blessing on all that he does? No.

Has he failed miserably to this point to build a competent O-line? Yes! Remember when he arrived and reportedly told the offense that he'll prepare them in a way that they'll be happy to see teams blitz? They must have been one delirious group for the seasons latter half. But do I still believe in Parcell's ability to rectify that? Call me crazy but yes I do. It is not an exact science. Then again I don't think genius's suddenly turn stupid. I really don't. I've been willing to give Parcell's the benefit of the doubt. I support giving him another year.

I'm not a change for change's sake kind of guy. I didn't think ANYONE was better than Cundiff, and then Cortez.

And I feel the same way about Parcells. We've come too far on the Parcells road to change course in the eleventh hour. Ride it out another year IMO.

It really does amaze me that people treat the memory of Landry as hallowed but if he coached the team today there would be plenty of those same folks who'd call for his head. Fickle, fickle, fickle.
 

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coco2 said:
I certainly have my reservations about Parcells. Some things puzzle me.

But the opinions that started this thread are just too absolute. Parcells wants subpar coaches on his staff? Payton's multiple interviews and ultimate hire as Saints HC kind of puts a hole in that theory. Carthon too. Let's not pretend that that every other NFL club is having all their assistants hired as HC's.

Now does that mean Parcells has my blessing on all that he does? No.

Has he failed miserably to this point to build a competent O-line? Yes! Remember when he arrived and reportedly told the offense that he'll prepare them in a way that they'll be happy to see teams blitz? They must have been one delirious group for the seasons latter half. But do I still believe in Parcell's ability to rectify that? Call me crazy but yes I do. It is not an exact science. Then again I don't think genius's suddenly turn stupid. I really don't. I've been willing to give Parcell's the benefit of the doubt. I support giving him another year.

I'm not a change for change's sake kind of guy. I didn't think ANYONE was better than Cundiff, and then Cortez.

And I feel the same way about Parcells. We've come too far on the Parcells road to change course in the eleventh hour. Ride it out another year IMO.

It really does amaze me that people treat the memory of Landry as hallowed but if he coached the team today there would be plenty of those same folks who'd call for his head. Fickle, fickle, fickle.


Nice balance in your opinions.

The only point I would like to make is this...

Just as in every profession, there's a time to call it quits. We are all evaluated on what we do today.

Now, I'm not suggesting that it's time for Parcells to call it quits...but I do know, this isn't the coach I saw in NY all those years.

Analogy. I am a huge music fan. I idolized Paul McCartney. With the Beatles he wrote some amazing music....with Wings, he wrote some good music....in the past ten years, most of his music is, quite honestly, lousy.

It doesn't change that he was a great songwriter....and I don't consider myself fickle or NOT a McCartney fan simply because in my opinion, his efforts in recent years have simply been at best, mediocre.
 

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Doom and gloom types bore me. Reality is sometimes hard, but never as tough as the glass half empty types portray it.
For every point you made, a counterpoint is readily available.
Critical fact is this- we are a much better team then when BP got here.
If you cannot see that, then you are truly blind and I don't have the time to
find a seeing eye dog for you.
 

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burmafrd said:
Doom and gloom types bore me. Reality is sometimes hard, but never as tough as the glass half empty types portray it.
For every point you made, a counterpoint is readily available.
Critical fact is this- we are a much better team then when BP got here.
If you cannot see that, then you are truly blind and I don't have the time to
find a seeing eye dog for you.

I agree that the Cowboys are a better team after 3 years. But what is needed to get them over the hump, in your opinion ?
 

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A good performance by the O line; a good FS, and a DECENT kicker.
We get that next season we COULD go all the way. Depends on the breaks and injuries (sometimes one and the same).
 

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burmafrd said:
Doom and gloom types bore me. Reality is sometimes hard, but never as tough as the glass half empty types portray it.
For every point you made, a counterpoint is readily available.
Critical fact is this- we are a much better team then when BP got here.
If you cannot see that, then you are truly blind and I don't have the time to
find a seeing eye dog for you.
I agree we are a much better team but how close are we to a ring. I look at Carolina and I see a team with about the same talent level and in the last 3 years they have been to a superbowl and to the championship game and it makes me scratch my head and wonder if Parcells is really all he is touted to be. We are what 27-25 since he has been here and in his words you are what you are and thats just average.
 

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Good post as usual, David.

And to those who roll their eyes at the idea that Parcells doesn't want the best coaches -- do you think we have an outstanding coaching staff? If you do, you can stop here. But if you are realistic and realize that we don't, the question then is, does Parcells not care about hiring the best and brightest? Or is he not able to, possibly because of his reputation for bullying and berating his coaches?

Either way, it's not a pretty picture. As David said, I'm hoping we can somehow hit the jackpot in the draft and FA, because IMO our talent on the field has to overcome our talent on the sideline.
 

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How do you KNOW we do not have good coaches on the sidelines?
Now as regards the O line- I agree that is a question. BUT where else do you think we are week in coaching- just curious?
 

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How long has Fox had Carolina? Vs how long has BP been here. What shape was carolina before Fox got there? How much talent did they have?
remember last year- they got a bunch of injuries and it killed their season- sound familiar?
 

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SkinsandTerps said:
I agree that the Cowboys are a better team after 3 years. But what is needed to get them over the hump, in your opinion ?

Prolly just mo' betta players and luck. Maybe more of the latter than the former. Thats just how it is in the NFL anymore.

We won 10 games with QC and T-Ham for gods sake. That year we had all the luck but not the players. This year we had better players and no luck.

We've seen 8 diff teams in the last 9 years make it to the dance in the NFC.

I'd bet $1000.00 right now that next year will make it 9 out if 10. The Seahawks wont be there again.

Yet how many teams could we say have absolutely no chance to win the NFC? 3 maybe 4, tops?
 

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Prolly just mo' betta players and luck. Maybe more of the latter than the former. Thats just how it is in the NFL anymore.

We won 10 games with QC and T-Ham for gods sake. That year we had all the luck but not the players. This year we had better players and no luck.

We've seen 8 diff teams in the last 9 years make it to the dance in the NFC.

I'd bet $1000.00 right now that next year will make it 9 out if 10. The Seahawks wont be there again.

Yet how many teams could we say have absolutely no chance to win the NFC? 3 maybe 4, tops?

That 10-6 season set us back. It gave Parcells a false sense of talent on his team. I absolutely hate that fact that Parcells will not play the young quarterbackins in meaningless games. Not seeing Henson or Romo agianst St. Louis really ticked me off. I wish we had a young head coach like Saban who is willing to go through growing pains to get better.
 

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Dip, you got it exactly right. 2003 was a year that we had all sorts of good luck and really did not deserve it with the team we had. This year if we had had the luck we had in 2003 we might very well be playing in the SB.
If the Hotel had not been injured, same with Henry, and Cundiff and company had kicked well, we probably win 12 games and since we could very well have beaten Seattle then we might have had home field throughout the playoffs.
With all the parity in the league, we just might have done it.
 

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I do not think we would have found out anything about either Henson or Romo by playing them more then we already know- they are not ready to start for a team that wants to make the playoffs.
2003 DID hurt us in that it did fool BP into thinking we were better then we were. Looking back on it, it is really remarkable how many games we won, and the breaks we got to win them. I hope KARMA has been satisfied and that we get good luck next year.
 

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burmafrd said:
How do you KNOW we do not have good coaches on the sidelines?
Now as regards the O line- I agree that is a question. BUT where else do you think we are week in coaching- just curious?
I see a Washington team starting Campo castoffs like Demetric Evans plus plenty of other average talents, and I know our team is not as well coached as theirs is. (And I'm not even a Zimmer hater, because I think Parcells runs everything.)

I simply think that in a competitive league, you need to give yourself every possible opportunity to gain an edge. Snyder realized that he could pay the best assistant coaches whatever he wanted without affecting his cap. It's a smart move that costs him nothing but his own cash if he's wrong. Why aren't we doing the same thing? Most likely, it's because Parcells has to have "his" certain type of guy, or he won't work with him. He's not flexible in working with someone he "doesn't trust". Well, that's bunk. What if Gibbs had taken that approach a couple of years ago? Gregg Williams never would have been hired, and Washington would be a worse team today.

Maybe Parcells is the one who needs to change and accept that there are young coaches out there who do know what they're doing, even if you don't have a background with them. In fact, the most desired coach so far from his staff has been Sean Payton, a guy he had no ties at all to when he was hired. I also happen to think Kacy Rogers is a pretty good assistant coach. Both are young coaches who Parcells was almost forced to hire due to not having his longtime assistants available when he arrived here. Yet, lately he seems to always look for the Sparanos and Pasqualonis who aren't highly regarded by anyone. That's disappointing.
 
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