Backup QB - Skip and Shannon Debate Today

[CWR]

Cam could win games with this team. Of course I haven't followed him closely the last couple seasons.

 

[Buzzbait]

Dalton would clearly be my choice of the three. Never been a fan of Flacco or Cam.

 

[Chrissyboy]

Don't know what Skip said as I wouldn't wipe spit on him if he was burning. Trash impersonator of a journalist....however, following on from our discussion on here:

In agreement with most of you. Dalton all the way for many reasons but no way JJ invests money in a backup QB even ignoring paying mega $$ for Dak.

An irrelevant question set up to snare people.

 

[Jake]

You can’t bring in Cam.. If he ever got on the field and brought his A game then Dak wouldn’t see the field again.

I also don’t think Dallas wants Dak looking over his shoulder and seeing Cam.

You complain about Dak's accuracy but think Cam Newton is better? There's nothing but emotions to support that conclusion.

Newton's career completion percentage is less than 60% despite his yards per attempt being lower than Dak's. I'll spell that out for you: he sucks at completing shorter passes. The dude got by with his legs for years and now he's coming off foot surgery.

I guess that's why there's a league-wide bidding war for his services.

 

[Jinxx13x]

This is all just a bunch of nonsense, The Cowboys 2020 QB room is complete. All they need is the vet, the understudy, and the project. That's exactly what they already have.

I just found the segment on Undisputed an interesting discussion which is why i shared, i however do think we need a backup who can be reliable and i don't believe cooper rush is a reliable understudy. if Dak goes down so will this season

 

[Jinxx13x]

its funny people forget the player s makes the choice LOL its not like Dallas says look we could have all 3 lets pick one..

NO got lucky to have Winston WANT TO GO to No badly enough to take huge discount to be the backup with like 4 options..thats crazy putting your ego aside..

which vet out there is will to do what Winston did and comes here..tha the real question..Dalls doesnt just have clout to get anyone they want for whatever.. see the ET fail etc

I dont think anyone is forgetting that or saying dallas can get anyone they want ! this was just a discussion they had on a talk show i found to be interesting - the Qb's were the 3 they chose to discuss , they did say Cam might not want to come here but i just thought this would be an interesting discussion

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Would much rather have Dak starting over Cam any day and it is not close and I am one of the few in the middle on him. Been to quite a few games in Charlotte with my Panthers buddy.

 

[plasticman]

I wouldn't spend a dime on those relics.

Give the season to the defense and running game with a busdriver that throws 25 passes a game.

Familiarity with the coaches and teammates would contribute more to winning than the eroding skills and mobility of a QB that has to learn a new system without having any familiarity with his fellow teammates.

 

[CATCH17]

You complain about Dak's accuracy but think Cam Newton is better? There's nothing but emotions to support that conclusion.

Newton's career completion percentage is less than 60% despite his yards per attempt being lower than Dak's. I'll spell that out for you: he sucks at completing shorter passes. The dude got by with his legs for years and now he's coming off foot surgery.

I guess that's why there's a league-wide bidding war for his services.

Cam at his highest level of play is something Dak can’t reach.

Dak is more consistent then Cam but when Cam plays his best Dak can’t touch his level of play.


Plus level of play and bringing him here is not my concern.. You bring Cam in and people will gravitate him in the building and media will want to see him on the field and push that narrative.

 

[Pantone282C]

Cam isn’t a backup guy. Dalton is the pick of the three, but Jerry’s not going to pay big money for an insurance policy. Especially when his HC is a QB specialist.

Why would any of the three accept a backup position if they think they are still QB1?

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Not many open positions left, only the Jags and that is if the coaches did not want to start the guys who filled in for Foles. So someone will have to settle for backup or as Shannon said being unemployed.

 

[xwalker]

Interesting segment today they were discussing Cowboys signing one of the following 3 as an insurance policy in case Dak got hurt so the season would not be a bust if that did happen:

Cam Newton

Andy Dalton

Joe Flacco

Points were made there were no bidding wars for any of them and they could be had possibly for a low price. If you had to choose one of these 3 who would you want ?

For me it would have to be between Cam and Dalton not a big fan of Flacco TBH

I would lean more towards Cam just Accuracy concerns me but i think he fits the best !

The Cowboys are highly unlikely to sign a veteran backup QB.

They have had Cooper Rush as "The" backup QB for 3 seasons.

McCarthy likes to have young developmental QBs.

The Dolphins are currently set to pay 8M to QB Ryan Fitzpatrick for the 2020 season despite having just drafted Tua at pick #5 and having traded for Josh Rosen last year.

Even as a backup, it would be a significant cost to sign players like Flacco, Cam, etc..

 

[Flamma]

Cam is the best of the three but I doubt he plays backup at backup pay.

I'll take Flacco over Dalton because I've seen what he is capable of. I've also seen what Dalton is not capable of. If you surround Flacco with the pieces he'll be fine.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

But playing in Cincinnati would make Joe Montana look average.

 

[gimmesix]

In my wildest dream.

I could not see any of these guys being signed.

Aikman never had anybody who would threaten him.

Same with Romo.

So that shows me Flacco and Cam are out primarily because hey have either won or made a SB before.

Dalton is just not a fit as his style would not really fit I don't believe.

Then again, Big Mike was hired primarily BECUZ he has won a SB.

So it's all just confusing as heck with Jerrah.

What else is new really?

Threaten is the wrong word. Aikman had starters reaching the end of their careers (Bernie Kosar, Rodney Peete, Wade Wilson, and Randall Cunningham) and Steve Beuerlein, who had started some for the Raiders and went on to be a starter in Carolina. (Kosar was added during the season, though, when Aikman was injured.) Romo had Brad Johnson and Jon Kitna.

 

[JoeKing]

I just found the segment on Undisputed an interesting discussion which is why i shared, i however do think we need a backup who can be reliable and i don't believe cooper rush is a reliable understudy. if Dak goes down so will this season

Much of the time, "Undisputed" is a rag of a sports magazine in video form that is not worth repeating. This story is opinion-oriented, designed to stir up ratings for FS1, not deliver factual news. But here you are repeating it as if it's the gospel. It's fake news! You are welcome to have your opinion about that QB room but understand that's all it is opinion. Instead, you're preaching like your laying down facts and doing everyone a service by doing so. In reality, you are nothing more than a "chicken little" panicked and spreading untruths about this QB room. They have all they need... a vet, a backup, and a project. It's your own fault if you don't believe in Cooper Rush.

 

[Redball Express]

Threaten is the wrong word. Aikman had starters reaching the end of their careers (Bernie Kosar, Rodney Peete, Wade Wilson, and Randall Cunningham) and Steve Beuerlein, who had started some for the Raiders and went on to be a starter in Carolina. (Kosar was added during the season, though, when Aikman was injured.) Romo had Brad Johnson and Jon Kitna.

Gracias.

I hear you.

Didnt Aikman have a re-done deal some
where along the way?

It was not like Dak is now..no contract and asking top of the world money.

Small difference but different.

 

[Cmac]

Red Rifile at the right price.....is Cooper renting?

 

[Swagger]

Cam at his highest level of play is something Dak can’t reach.

Dak is more consistent then Cam but when Cam plays his best Dak can’t touch his level of play.


Plus level of play and bringing him here is not my concern.. You bring Cam in and people will gravitate him in the building and media will want to see him on the field and push that narrative.

Agree all round.

Firstly, people are having a laugh if they think Cam sees himself as a backup in this league. The guy is a league MVP and easily still a starter in this league. The time off is what he needed - fully healthy now and ready to go.

Of the three Dalton is comfortably the best choice as backup for so many reasons although he is still a starting quality QB in the league. He could have a similar impact on a team as Tannehill had at the Titans.

Flacco is done at this point.

 

[btcutter]

Interesting segment today they were discussing Cowboys signing one of the following 3 as an insurance policy in case Dak got hurt so the season would not be a bust if that did happen:

Cam Newton

Andy Dalton

Joe Flacco

Points were made there were no bidding wars for any of them and they could be had possibly for a low price. If you had to choose one of these 3 who would you want ?

For me it would have to be between Cam and Dalton not a big fan of Flacco TBH

I would lean more towards Cam just Accuracy concerns me but i think he fits the best !

Of all three I suspect Dalton will be most expensive and likely command $15 million at least per year. Never really a fan of Newton.

If I can get Flacco for under $8 million a year then sign me up. He is very serviceable backup for a few games and has a big arm for our trio of WRs. He plays best with play action (actually him and Newton).