Barber should be in the probowl

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Barber has very little signature games over 100 yards. He shouldn't be in the Pro Bowl. A good third down back but that's it.
 

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HogsRLegends;1828147 said:
Barber has very little signature games over 100 yards. He shouldn't be in the Pro Bowl. A good third down back but that's it.
He's more than a good third down back. The Cowboys score on 67% of the possessions when Barber is in the game (from Talkin Cowboys at dallascowboys.com). He is an awesome playmaker.
 

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Also a good receiver. But ;) westbrook got cheated. :D still, it probably pisses the eagle fans off.
 

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landryscorner;1827761 said:
Why? who would you rather have? Adrian Peterson? sure he is having a great "year" but one year is nothing in the NFL,

And how many great years has Barber had??

how many countless RB' have had a great first year and then stumbled (JJ for example) he gets my vote for Rookie of the year, but if I had to choose between barber and Peterson, hands down MB gets my vote, just my thoughts...what do you guys think?

Barber is 5th in the conference in rushing, over 100 yards behind the 4th ranked RB... OK, some of that is not his fault, he's splitting carries with Julius, but no way he deserves to be in the Pro Bowl ahead of Peterson, Westbrook, James or Portis...

Peterson has 1430 yards on 214 touches (198 carries, 16 receptions), for 11 TDs... Barber has 1098 yards on 209 touches (169 carries, 40 receptions), for 11 TDs... that's 332 more yards, on 5 more touches, for Peterson... that's a 6.7 yards per touch average for Peterson, a 5.25 yards per touch average for Barber... clearly, Adrian has had a better season that Marion has...

And those numbers are the only criteria that matter, when it comes to who deserves to be in the Pro Bowl more... the Barberian has had a terrific season, but just like Tony Romo doesn't deserve the MVP award over Brady (in spite of having a completely brilliant season), Marion does not deserve to be in the Pro Bowl over Peterson...

Or Westbrook, either... he should actually be the starter, IMO, having put up over 1750 yards rushing and receiving thus far, with 12 TDs...
 

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dwarecwby311;1827764 said:
i think if Ratliff and Newman don't get in, then **** the pro-bowl

Ratliff will never make the Pro Bowl, and he shouldn't...
 

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WoodysGirl;1827777 said:
This might sound sacrilege, but I'd put Brian Westbrook in over Barber.

AP
Westbrook


then Barber

That's not a "sacrilege" at all... to the contrary, you're exactly right, except I might reverse the order, Westbrook ahead of Peterson...
 

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MCowboys;1827781 said:
Peterson, Westbrook, than Barber. Three make it though, so Barber will probably still be in.

I don't know if Edgerrin James or Clinton Portis aren't better qualified for that third slot, but Barber should certainly be in that mix... they might get the nod by virtue of "seniority" in the NFL, especially when the players and coaches vote...
 

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DallasDW00ds0n;1827766 said:
id like to see Barber to be one of the RBs, and I think he will be.

but if you would honestly take MBIII over AP, youre crazy.

I wouldnt take anyone over Romo, Witten, and Barber. They are all warriors.
 

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landryscorner;1827761 said:
Why? who would you rather have? Adrian Peterson? sure he is having a great "year" but one year is nothing in the NFL, how many countless RB' have had a great first year and then stumbled (JJ for example) he gets my vote for Rookie of the year, but if I had to choose between barber and Peterson, hands down MB gets my vote, just my thoughts...what do you guys think?

AD and it's not even close. JJ was a horrible example cause he didn't accomplish anything during his rookie year close to what AD has done so far, and he still has 3 games left. Not to mention how many games has AD won for the Vikes despite the team being out matched? How many games has Barber won foe us (not good games, but games were he dominated)? Put it this way, if we had AD, we would be favorites over NE in the SB.
 

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HogsRLegends;1828147 said:
Barber has very little signature games over 100 yards. He shouldn't be in the Pro Bowl. A good third down back but that's it.

I actually agree with everything but the last sentence. Barber will probably make the pro-bowl, but it'll have more to do with Stephen Jackson, Frank Gore, Shaun Alexander and Clinton Portis not meeting expectations. That's why I think it's important to address RB early in the draft. Barber is good, but our running games hasn't dominated all season. Barber runs east and west a lot for a power back and his game is based on wearing a D out. What we need is someone who will hit the hole and run and can out-run Ds to the outside.
 

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Barber would make the Pro Bowl HELL for defenders just trying to take a glorified vacation.
:lmao2:
 

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silverbear;1828203 said:
And how many great years has Barber had??



Barber is 5th in the conference in rushing, over 100 yards behind the 4th ranked RB... OK, some of that is not his fault, he's splitting carries with Julius, but no way he deserves to be in the Pro Bowl ahead of Peterson, Westbrook, James or Portis...

Peterson has 1430 yards on 214 touches (198 carries, 16 receptions), for 11 TDs... Barber has 1098 yards on 209 touches (169 carries, 40 receptions), for 11 TDs... that's 332 more yards, on 5 more touches, for Peterson... that's a 6.7 yards per touch average for Peterson, a 5.25 yards per touch average for Barber... clearly, Adrian has had a better season that Marion has...

And those numbers are the only criteria that matter, when it comes to who deserves to be in the Pro Bowl more... the Barberian has had a terrific season, but just like Tony Romo doesn't deserve the MVP award over Brady (in spite of having a completely brilliant season), Marion does not deserve to be in the Pro Bowl over Peterson...

Or Westbrook, either... he should actually be the starter, IMO, having put up over 1750 yards rushing and receiving thus far, with 12 TDs...

James or Portis? Both guys are averaging just under 4 yards per carry(3.8 for James, 3.7 for Portis) while Barber is very close to 5 yards per carry. Barber also has 9 rushing TDs and only 1 fumble. Portis has 7 rushing TDs and 5 fumbles. James has 6 rushing TDs and 3 fumbles. Even though those two guys both have over 86 more carries than Barber he is not too far behind in yardage. To me he is leading the debate over who should be the third back for the NFC.

There is no debate as to who the top two guys should be, Westbrook and Peterson.
 

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landryscorner;1827761 said:
Why? who would you rather have? Adrian Peterson? sure he is having a great "year" but one year is nothing in the NFL, how many countless RB' have had a great first year and then stumbled (JJ for example) he gets my vote for Rookie of the year, but if I had to choose between barber and Peterson, hands down MB gets my vote, just my thoughts...what do you guys think?
Barber over Peterson. Mh. Go see your doctor. Immediately.

Oh and Ratliff is not going anywhere.
 

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Just trying to be objective I would have to put Westbrook in before Barber. Westbrook is already over 1,000 yards rushing (1,110) and has 74 catches for 642. I love Barber but if I take my Cowboy hat off then I have to say Westbrook
 

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HogsRLegends;1828147 said:
Barber has very little signature games over 100 yards.

As opposed to Portis who leads the league in "signature fumbles." :lmao2:
 

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Tough call for Barber. Westbrook and AP are in. I'd say Barber is in before Portis and should be. Hogs talks about 100 yard games, well they both have two 100 yard games. What's your point? Barber does it on less carries.

There are 2 guys out there that might get the third spot ahead of Barber: Ryan Grant and Earnest Graham. Now, I feel that Barber is better than both and more deserving. But something tells me that the Cowboys hate and the Packer love is going to get Grant in before Barber. I guess we'll see on Tuesday.
 

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HogsRLegends;1828147 said:
Barber has very little signature games over 100 yards. He shouldn't be in the Pro Bowl. A good third down back but that's it.

no F-bomb?
 

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silverbear;1828207 said:
I don't know if Edgerrin James or Clinton Portis aren't better qualified for that third slot, but Barber should certainly be in that mix... they might get the nod by virtue of "seniority" in the NFL, especially when the players and coaches vote...

I think every objective person would have Barber behind AD and Westbrook.

But I think he deserves it over Portis and Edge.

His yardage is comparable. His YPC is much higher.

His superiority in TDs and ball security over those two has already been discussed.

But for me, one of the biggest things he has in his favor is his explosiveness. When you look at runs over 20 yards and runs over 40 yards... MB3 absolutely obliterates Portis and Edge. In fact, he's second only to Peterson in those categories.

In fact, I'd have Edge and Portis behind Earnest Graham this year.
 
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