Yep. It is no way around it. The good thing is that the penalty happened during a preseason game, so it is meaningless. Of course, that will not be true if Basham does not learn from it and repeats the same thing during a regular season game. Or worst. He does it at a crucial point during a postseason game.
Good points
If we were such an “undisciplined” team, how did we lead the NFL in points, yards and takeaways?
those were legal IMHO borderline maybe, but in slow Mo they are 100% legal full speed well the refs just always call it like they believe they see it..some need to have their eyes checked same head official called those 2 holding penalty's on Tsmith(lg), can we give him a nickname i mean to Tsmiths next to each other is confusing, and to me they were not holding, not being cowboy bias pancakes are not auto flags, and he was not holding.Click this link for the complete rule and entire examples video.
In the old days, defensive players could stuff the quarterback. The old days are dead in the NFL. They will never return.
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 11, subparagraph b: A rushing defender is prohibited from committing such intimidating and punishing acts as “stuffing” a passer into the ground or unnecessarily wrestling or driving him down after the passer has thrown the ball, even if the rusher makes his initial contact with the passer within the one-step limitation...
Tackling/sacking the quarterback is a mental exercise in 2022. It's not 1972 anymore. The NFL does not want its quarterbacks pounded through the ground. The rule is an irritation if the player is not intentionally trying to injure the quarterback but not THINKING beforehand will result in a braindead penalty and should fall primarily on the player's shoulders only in my opinion.
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 11, subparagragh c: A defensive player must not use his helmet against a passer who is in a defenseless posture... (2) lowering the head and making forcible contact with any part of the helmet against any part of the passer’s body. This rule does not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or non-crown parts of the helmet in the course of a conventional tackle on a passer.
On the other hand, I believe coaches and player bear equal responsibility for erasing this tendency from inside the player's head. All the player needs to do is keep his head up. You must see who you are going to hit anyway. Eyes up. Less chance of a stupid penalty. Eyes down. Almost always a braindead penalty because the refs do not give a flip what part of the helmet hits ANY part of the quarterback's body.
His biggest crime? His helmet had a star on it.
Click this link for the complete rule and entire examples video.
In the old days, defensive players could stuff the quarterback. The old days are dead in the NFL. They will never return.
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 11, subparagraph b: A rushing defender is prohibited from committing such intimidating and punishing acts as “stuffing” a passer into the ground or unnecessarily wrestling or driving him down after the passer has thrown the ball, even if the rusher makes his initial contact with the passer within the one-step limitation...
Tackling/sacking the quarterback is a mental exercise in 2022. It's not 1972 anymore. The NFL does not want its quarterbacks pounded through the ground. The rule is an irritation if the player is not intentionally trying to injure the quarterback but not THINKING beforehand will result in a braindead penalty and should fall primarily on the player's shoulders only in my opinion.
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 11, subparagragh c: A defensive player must not use his helmet against a passer who is in a defenseless posture... (2) lowering the head and making forcible contact with any part of the helmet against any part of the passer’s body. This rule does not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or non-crown parts of the helmet in the course of a conventional tackle on a passer.
On the other hand, I believe coaches and player bear equal responsibility for erasing this tendency from inside the player's head. All the player needs to do is keep his head up. You must see who you are going to hit anyway. Eyes up. Less chance of a stupid penalty. Eyes down. Almost always a braindead penalty because the refs do not give a flip what part of the helmet hits ANY part of the quarterback's body.
Agreed. Basham turned his body away as they fell and avoided landing on the QB. Williams slipped his head to the side the QB was moving, but made the contact with his shoulder. Over-reaction by the refs.
The example is from the NFL official rulebook video.
Donald's was way worse. He put all his body weight on top of the qb. Basham actually pulled to the side to avoid putting his weight on him.
The flags will be flying if they look meanly at him. Most coddled QB in history.
Click this link for the complete rule and entire examples video.
In the old days, defensive players could stuff the quarterback. The old days are dead in the NFL. They will never return.
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 11, subparagraph b: A rushing defender is prohibited from committing such intimidating and punishing acts as “stuffing” a passer into the ground or unnecessarily wrestling or driving him down after the passer has thrown the ball, even if the rusher makes his initial contact with the passer within the one-step limitation...
Tackling/sacking the quarterback is a mental exercise in 2022. It's not 1972 anymore. The NFL does not want its quarterbacks pounded through the ground. The rule is an irritation if the player is not intentionally trying to injure the quarterback but not THINKING beforehand will result in a braindead penalty and should fall primarily on the player's shoulders only in my opinion.
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 11, subparagragh c: A defensive player must not use his helmet against a passer who is in a defenseless posture... (2) lowering the head and making forcible contact with any part of the helmet against any part of the passer’s body. This rule does not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or non-crown parts of the helmet in the course of a conventional tackle on a passer.
On the other hand, I believe coaches and player bear equal responsibility for erasing this tendency from inside the player's head. All the player needs to do is keep his head up. You must see who you are going to hit anyway. Eyes up. Less chance of a stupid penalty. Eyes down. Almost always a braindead penalty because the refs do not give a flip what part of the helmet hits ANY part of the quarterback's body.
It may become more exciting if we can somehow keep a lid on penalties this season.
These types of penalties are on the coaching staff. How many roughing the passer penalties did Denver have?????? I rest my case............. The Boys were the most penalized team last season and they'll be in the running for that title this year too! It's totally asinine how the penalties flags fly when the Cowboys are playing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Click this link for the complete rule and entire examples video.
In the old days, defensive players could stuff the quarterback. The old days are dead in the NFL. They will never return.
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 11, subparagraph b: A rushing defender is prohibited from committing such intimidating and punishing acts as “stuffing” a passer into the ground or unnecessarily wrestling or driving him down after the passer has thrown the ball, even if the rusher makes his initial contact with the passer within the one-step limitation...
Tackling/sacking the quarterback is a mental exercise in 2022. It's not 1972 anymore. The NFL does not want its quarterbacks pounded through the ground. The rule is an irritation if the player is not intentionally trying to injure the quarterback but not THINKING beforehand will result in a braindead penalty and should fall primarily on the player's shoulders only in my opinion.
Rule 12, Section 2, Article 11, subparagragh c: A defensive player must not use his helmet against a passer who is in a defenseless posture... (2) lowering the head and making forcible contact with any part of the helmet against any part of the passer’s body. This rule does not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or non-crown parts of the helmet in the course of a conventional tackle on a passer.
On the other hand, I believe coaches and player bear equal responsibility for erasing this tendency from inside the player's head. All the player needs to do is keep his head up. You must see who you are going to hit anyway. Eyes up. Less chance of a stupid penalty. Eyes down. Almost always a braindead penalty because the refs do not give a flip what part of the helmet hits ANY part of the quarterback's body.
Roughing the passer would not apply. Romo scrambled out of the pocket and did not attempt to throw the ball. However, arguments have been made whether unnecessary roughness should have been called since Romo was obviously in the act of sliding before the hit (it will not be surprising if a counter-argument or explanation surfaces because of this sub-discussion).
