Bears Release DE Ray McDonald

[AbeBeta]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with questioning whether or not an accusation is accurate. Especially in situations where there's an obvious financial incentive for the accuser to lie.

By the same token, there're also very good reasons for people to be suspicious of a player claiming innocence when they have ever incentive of their own to cover up or downplay an incident.

The reality is, all of these cases are different. Some are inexcusable. Some are more serious than others. Some percentage have been demonstrated to likely be attempts at manipulation. You have to look at each accusation and decide the merits or lack thereof separately.

Where is the incentive to lie in McDonald's case? Yes, he's a professional athlete - someone who is on his last chance and making close to the NFL minimum salary. You'd think the mother of his child would have a pretty clear understanding that he's not going to be much help if he can't work.

There is something very wrong with questioning the motive as your first move. The poster I was replying to immediately went the gold digger route in a situation where that makes very little sense. It is a stupid and sexist attitude that I'll call folks out on every time I read it.

 

[AbeBeta]

Lame and immature is saying someone is guilty before proven innocent. It is innocent until proven guilty. Do to the fact he was said to be innocent during the prior DV case, there is precedence that he stands more likely to be innocent again than guilty since it appears it is the same woman involved.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...rancisco-49ers-cleared-domestic-violence-case

No, lame and immature is not realize the huge problem of domestic violence and that a huge proportion of cases never get charges filed because most acts take place in private with no eyewitnesses. The couple makes up or decides to move on for various reasons (like having a child together) and the victim becomes uncooperative. That's a story as old as time. Acting like he is innocent because no charges were filed in the first case represents both a failure of critical thinking and a predisposition to blame the victim.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

No, lame and immature is not realize the huge problem of domestic violence and that a huge proportion of cases never get charges filed because most acts take place in private with no eyewitnesses. The couple makes up or decides to move on for various reasons (like having a child together) and the victim becomes uncooperative. That's a story as old as time. Acting like he is innocent because no charges were filed in the first case represents both a failure of critical thinking and a predisposition to blame the victim.

If you're going to fail to be level-headed, then I suppose this conversation is over.

We arent talking about cases that are never filed. You're just wanting to assume someone guilty and punish them severely to "make up for all the cases that go unpunished"...in fact, this man could be innocent. You have ZERO proof otherwise.

 

[AbeBeta]

If you're going to fail to be level-headed, then I suppose this conversation is over.

We arent talking about cases that are never filed. You're just wanting to assume someone guilty and punish them severely to "make up for all the cases that go unpunished"...in fact, this man could be innocent. You have ZERO proof otherwise.

You continue to ignore reality - cases either filed or not filed fall apart for similar reasons. Good lord dude, the article you posted even reflected that. I guess I'll add "poor reading comprehension" to my critique.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

You continue to ignore reality - cases either filed or not filed fall apart for similar reasons. Good lord dude, the article you posted even reflected that. I guess I'll add "poor reading comprehension" to my critique.

Good! I already added "Doesnt understand basics of law" to yours.

 

[Nightman]

No, lame and immature is not realize the huge problem of domestic violence and that a huge proportion of cases never get charges filed because most acts take place in private with no eyewitnesses. The couple makes up or decides to move on for various reasons (like having a child together) and the victim becomes uncooperative. That's a story as old as time. Acting like he is innocent because no charges were filed in the first case represents both a failure of critical thinking and a predisposition to blame the victim.

If it is such a huge problem than the League would be inundated with cases instead of the handful over the last year or so.

Some of those appear to be frivolous, while others are real.

There are no lessons to be learned or conclusions to be made. Every case has to be looked at separately.

 

[AbeBeta]

If it is such a huge problem than the League would be inundated with cases instead of the handful over the last year or so.

Some of those appear to be frivolous, while others are real.

There are no lessons to be learned or conclusions to be made. Every case has to be looked at separately.

That's like saying DUIs aren't that big a deal because, really only a small % of players get them. The vast majority of DUIs go unreported as do the vast majority of domestic violence cases.

 

[LandryFan]

Certainly wont be on a football field anytime soon.

He is going the route of Ray Rice...untouchable.

 

[Nightman]

That's like saying DUIs aren't that big a deal because, really only a small % of players get them. The vast majority of DUIs go unreported as do the vast majority of domestic violence cases.

It is not something that is isolated to the NFL and it is not caused by playing football.

When guilty they should be dealt with but the NFL is not going to eliminate DV through PSAs and inconsistent punishments.