Beating Filly & What It Could Mean

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I don't want to say this team, this game worries me but I guess they do.

I think about the assorted offensive weapons the Boys have, and the swagger our defense has assumed.

But I keep coming back to their great corners and their receivers.

this game is huge, not because it is the Eagles but because it will tell us a lot about the Cowboys' confidence. Or lack of it.

I wish the game were being played right now. As it is, my stomach is in knots and staying sane (shut up) through Sunday will be rough.
 

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jobberone;3059984 said:
It's ridiculous to be even thinking about December now. Also the other games in November except this one.

You want to win every game as decisively as you can.

One at a time.

:bow:

I hate the "you can't win in december" talk we constantly hear. Yes, we haven't won in December or in the playoffs, but there is absolutely nothing we can do about winning in December TILL DECEMBER. We have to win now to even have December matter. They don't count just the games in December. There isn't some fancy point system for wins. A win in October counts the same as a win in December. Now, I would like to see us winning going into the playoffs, but more importantly, I want to GET to the playoffs. And to do that, you have to play ALL the games in the season.
 

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jswalker1981;3060018 said:
Does anyone realize that despite being 18th in the league in rushing attempts, we are 7th in rushing offense? You can look at it any way you want. If we ran more, we could be even more productive. Or even though we don't have a lot of attempts, we make the most of those attempts. I just thought I would throw that tidbit of info out there. Since so many people think we don't run the ball.
I didn't realize it. Thank you. Out of curiosity how many of the teams ahead of them in each category haven't had their bye week yet?
 

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Hostile;3060028 said:
I didn't realize it. Thank you. Out of curiosity how many of the teams ahead of them in each category haven't had their bye week yet?

The Giants haven't had their bye yet, and the Jets are now having their bye week. Interestingly enough, the team with the best RB in the league, Adrian Peterson, and has rushed 36 more times than us, is 8th in rushing offense, and are having their bye this week.
 

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jswalker1981;3060036 said:
The Giants haven't had their bye yet, and the Jets are now having their bye week. Interestingly enough, the team with the best RB in the league, Adrian Peterson, and has rushed 36 more times than us, is 8th in rushing offense, and are having their bye this week.
Thanks. Oh boy would I ever like a huge rushing game this week. Eat up that clock. Wear Filly down.
 

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SilverStarCowboy;3059213 said:
Winning before Thanksgiving has certainly proven to be a huge misnomer for this Franchise over the last several seasons.

But if you don't win sept through november then dec is meaningless
 

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Hostile;3059028 said:
If ever there was a game where I would like to see us become conservative and run the ball for 300 yards and use the short pass, this is it. We have lamented the lack of sacks and takeaways this year. Let me show you just how wide the chasm to the Eagles is right now in these categories.

Eagles...23 sacks, 14 INTs, 8 Forced Fumbles
Cowboys...17 sacks, 4 INTs, 8 Forced Fumbles

Hos, the sack stats are skewed a little by the fact the Iggles have played 3 of the 5 worst pass-protecting teams in the league already this year... in the two games they've played against good offensive lines, they put up 2 sacks each game (the Saints and the Giants, with an already less-than-mobile Eli hobbled even more by a bad foot)...

Consider also that the Boys were shut out in sacks their first 2 games, and have posted 17 since then... that's 3.4 sacks per game, versus the Iggles' season average of 3.1...

Given that our offensive line is better than the Iggles' is, and given the numbers I cited above, I honestly believe we have the edge in the pass rush department...

OTOH, I have no numbers to minimize the edge in the turnover department, forcing turnovers has long been a problem for the Boys... the best I can do is to note that Tony's been real good about not throwing ints here of late...
 

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thechosen1n2;3059127 said:
Hos, I think this game will determine the winner of the NFC East. Im not sure who wins, but I think we are a better team.

I do too... in fact, the only way I see us losing this game is if we lose the turnover battle... if we protect the ball, we win...

It's as simple as that, IMO...

That doesnt matter though, because I knew we were better than the Midgets in week 1. (by the way I still think we are better).

And of course, turnovers were the killer in that one...
 

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silverbear;3060134 said:
I do too... in fact, the only way I see us losing this game is if we lose the turnover battle... if we protect the ball, we win...

It's as simple as that, IMO...



And of course, turnovers were the killer in that one...


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CATCH17;3059049 said:
IMO this is the week Felix Jones will have his coming out party.

Its a low risk trying to get him the ball and he can make a big play any time he touches the ball.

We're on the road so we don't want to just try and throw the ball around the lot. Especially early in the game.

So I think this is the week we see Felix have close to 150 Total yards and he carries us to a W.

I agree. Jones can really neutralize a pressure defense when he takes those screens and short passes 20+ yards. Using the backs and quick passing game will hopefully make Philly a little gunshy after a while.

The offense needs to stay out of 3rd and long. This is not the situation where Romo (or anyone in the NFL) is likely to have success in Philly. Those situations will keep the crowd in it and make the Eagles even more aggressive.

After writing all that, I feel like Captain Obvious. But hey, football is not rocket science. Bottom line is always, be physical, win at the LOS, and don't make stupid mistakes. Just take what they give you and neutralize their big play guys.

See it's so simple! Too bad the other team will have something to say about whether we do that or not.
 

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SilverStarCowboy;3059973 said:
It's not like it meant anything last year.

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Hostile;3060007 said:
If you believe last year is a provable pattern go to Vegas and bet all you have on your pattern.

Me, I'll stick with the real world. That superstitious junk isn't worth the powder to blow it to hell.


In the real world it's happened to this team three years in a row .. is this a trend.

Every single year Teams that go into the Play-Offs on a roll in December tend to do alot better than the ones who faulter at the end of seasons.
 

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SilverStarCowboy;3060262 said:
In the real world it's happened to this team three years in a row .. is this a trend.

Every single year Teams that go into the Play-Offs on a roll in December tend to do alot better than the ones who faulter at the end of seasons.
Yes, it is a trend. How long do trends last that you would become a betting man and risk all you have on a trend?

If you arrive at December playing catch up instead of hold on you are not in an advantageous position of power. I will say it again, I would rather win this game and lose in December than the opposite.

1-1 in the NFC East and a 1/2 game up on the other teams is more advantageous to my goals than 0-2 and a half game down, potentially tied with a team that I lose the tiebreaker to. I will take 1st in the NFC East right now, over 3rd in the NFC East right now. It is easier to hold onto 1st even if we lose that December game, than it would be to get back to 1st with that December game.

Bet your trend. I'll stick with the better option. 9 seasons out of 10, my better option will beat your trend. You want a 10% shot at the glory, by all means it's all yours. I'll take my 90% and smile.
 

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Hostile;3060276 said:
If you arrive at December playing catch up instead of hold on you are not in an advantageous position of power. I will say it again, I would rather win this game and lose in December than the opposite.

It is easier to hold onto 1st even if we lose that December game, than it would be to get back to 1st with that December game.



When NFL Teams win in December they gain serious momentum, that's in direct correlation of how most teams have won or lost in the Play-Offs.

Just because something may be percieved by some as easier doesn't mean it's best for the team. Great Teams are forged by fire in December, if Dallas can win 4-5 of the last 5-6 games we'll be legitimate Contenders for a SuperBowl.

While a single Play-Off win would be a glorious accomplishment after 13 long years the end goal is always a Super Bowl. Teams like the Cards, Giants and Seattle were all hot and made the Bowl the last few years for the NFC, one of them won it all.
 

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SilverStarCowboy;3060294 said:
When NFL Teams win in December they gain serious momentum, that's in direct corrilation of how most teams have won or lost in the Play-Offs.

Just because something maybe percieved by some as easier doesn't mean it's best for the team. Great Teams are forged by fire in December, if Dallas can win 4-5 of the last 5 games we'll be legitimate Contenders for a SuperBowl, anything.

While a single Play-Off win would be a glorious accomplishment after 13 long years the end goal is always a Super Bowl teams like the Cards, Giants and Seattle were all hot and made the Bowl the last few years for the NFC, one of them won it all.
We will agree to disagree.

What you are saying is fine and good, but it is fluff.
 

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Hostile;3060055 said:
Thanks. Oh boy would I ever like a huge rushing game this week. Eat up that clock. Wear Filly down.

Boy would that be great. I think they will want to stop our rushing game and they generally do that with a lot of run blitzes. That means if they have to blitz to stop the run the play action will lead to some big plays. We'll also get some big runs when the blitz fails.

But I'd bet big money we will pass first. It is probably safer and more efficient to throw short passes, screens and flats passes to gain those 3-5+ yards a play. Plus we're talking Red Jesus here.
 

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silverbear;3060134 said:
I do too... in fact, the only way I see us losing this game is if we lose the turnover battle... if we protect the ball, we win...

It's as simple as that, IMO...



And of course, turnovers were the killer in that one...

I agree. We don't turn the ball over and give them a short field and we win this game. Our offense will score on their defense. I'd say at least 21 points. Our D should be able to stay at its average. We score 21 we should win.
 

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All beating Philly means is 6-2 and 8 more games to go with December/January looming.
 

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EPL0c0;3060358 said:
All beating Philly means is 6-2 and 8 more games to go with December/January looming.

Exactly. All it takes is one bad game to undo all the good a win Sunday night would do. They only count 1 for or against no matter when you win or lose.
 
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