Better Contain Zeke

[blueblood70]

oh so now it's about total yards now and not worried about YPC,explosive plays, and touchdowns?? so zeke's washed when he has a low output but tony pollard gets anointed LOL by the way guarantee top five ezekiel started both the last two seasons off. want to go check? 4.8 YPC and was very good before the 2 knee issues. Bet??. you should know better than to try that with me and bet the data supports zeke was good the first half of both the last two seasons.

last year pollard finished 3.8 ypc, 51 ypg, no tds and no explosive plays the last 5 games. hurt twice

now 2023 4.3 2 tds in 3 games. No truly explosive plays..in fact since hes got the ball more and more the YPC and tds, and explode plays dropped.

 

[jwitten82]

oh so now it's about total yards now and not worried about YPC,explosive plays, and touchdowns?? so zeke's washed when he has a low output but tony pollard gets anointed LOL by the way guarantee top five ezekiel started both the last two seasons off. want to go check? 4.8 YPC and was very good before the 2 knee issues. Bet??. you should know better than to try that with me and bet the data supports zeke was good the first half of both the last two seasons.

last year pollard finished 3.8 ypc, 51 ypg, no tds and no explosive plays the last 5 games. hurt twice

now 2023 4.3 2 tds in 3 games. No truly explosive plays..in fact since hes got the ball more and more the YPC and tds, and explode plays dropped.

Zeke usually started strong then faded that's how it is. He worries nobody now. Placing the tag on Pollard was the smartest thing Jones did. Get him for one more year then dump him

 

[Coogiguy03]

In the past couple years, in the 1st half of the season, Zeke ran like a bulldog after a bone. His problem was he ran out of steam in the 2nd half of the season. Our run defense has been atrocious, so I suspect Zeke will have a good day Sunday. The Boyz better put the brakes on him early and shut him down.

Problem is, zeke got all that money, got big, and became extremely SLOW!! Against us Sunday, he'll look like 2016 zeke!

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

I agree. Just not Zeke. At this point he's 3 yards and a cloud of rubber pellets.

Lol, Flam you are not right!

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

and we can go back and say the same thing with EE21, banged up OLs and bad run play calling/schemes by Kellen moore... good try though but you're not getting one over on me. Elliott's been a better running back since he popped out of his mama than tony pollard will ever be.

fact..LOL guaranteed he was better in football at every level than Tony pollard could ever wish you can be. for all to see there is an obvious talent gap between the 2.. . the difference is because Ezekiel what's so good he was used up at every level and his wear and tear so insanely more than tony pollard , and yet Zeke starts out the first two first halves of the last 2 seasons at 4.8 YPC and has a lot more TDs and playing really well until he got injured. we've already seen tony pollard last yr and to start this year at the goal line/short yardage also failing... i remember many fans here claim zeke taking tds away from TP and that if given a shot he could do the same thing.right..LOL zeke sure was holding tony back from all these touchdownsin 23 lmao

You’re talking out your arse.

Tell us, which goal line plays has Pollard failed on this season?

 

[sandbridge77]

So it’s ok to use the excuse for losing to he Cardinals that the o line was missing 3 Pro Bowlers, but you can bash the running back for under performing?

 

[blueblood70]

Zeke usually started strong then faded that's how it is. He worries nobody now. Placing the tag on Pollard was the smartest thing Jones did. Get him for one more year then dump him

OK don't be worried... but don't think he's not going to be motivated. and being we are still preinjury zeke still in the the first half of a season, he is about to hit that stride..... but he wasn't fading last week


it's funny how his 16 for 80 is 25-75 for TP against the same jets team, who had the better output??

 

[Risen Star]

Hatas gonna hate

Sep 24 @ Jets 16 for 80 5.0 ypc

Sep 24

16

80

5.0 5.0

0 0

1

What about the week before?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

What about the week before?

Still 4.4 for the season.

Now what?

 

[Flamma]

You mean like 25 carries for 75 yards from Tony Pollard that kind of three yards you mean like the reality of being a number one back in the NFL and overused?? Literally zeek 16 for 80 against the same jets defense that Tony Pollard had three yards per carry that will be 5 to 3...

Seriously where do you guys come up with this stuff Tony Pollard this become just a regular average running back no explosive plays nothing huge ever since he's become the number one back even at the end of last year everyone they give him more snaps.. This is what it looks like when you become the focal point of a defense...

And by the way most volume backs like Emmett Smith oh their entire career has been under 4 yards per carry it's all about volume carries for guys like 3 down big backs that can also stay in and block these dudes have excessive amounts of wear and tear on their bodies because they can do it Tony Pollard can't do it...

I did my research over the years Emmett Smith had so many seasons at 4 yards per carry or under for the season it's insane he only had one at 5 or over basically at there is not a big difference between Ezekiel & Smith it literally was the offensive line maybe the play calling the type of offense they called ie Moose and that OL , put EE in that offense and he possibly has an even a better career than he had here that was already great.. just facts

I understand all of this. But it really wasn't what I was referring to. All of these RBs throughout history that were paid well, including Zeke, were paid for their big play potential. Not for their yearly average. No one would put Preston Pearson in the same category as Tony Dorsett, yet he averaged only a half yard less over his career.

My comment was based on this thread title. Zeke has been contained for several years now. He no longer has big play potential.

 

[blueblood70]

I understand all of this. But it really wasn't what I was referring to. All of these RBs throughout history that were paid well, including Zeke, were paid for their big play potential. Not for their yearly average. No one would put Preston Pearson in the same category as Tony Dorsett, yet he averaged only a half yard less over his career.

My comment was based on this thread title. Zeke has been contained for several years now. He no longer has big play potential.

wrong.. They were literally paid to do what their skill set said they were to do and I'm sorry but Emmitt Smith didn't have big playability neither did most of the big three down power backs.. The ones that played 70 snaps because they were in on every play run pass block.. A skill most players like Tony Pollard does not have...

 

[Havic]

Our defense been itchin to put a few hits on Zeke

 

[Captain-Crash]

I can see zeke running over the gimp wolf and putting him into retirement. *rooo. cough...ar*

 

[Shane612]

Zeke can’t run outside anymore. He will run between the tackles. We should be able to contain him.

Good. It should be a good test for Mazi Smith.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

Jones is gonna end up throwing for 300+ yards Sunday watch.

 

[Flamma]

wrong.. They were literally paid to do what their skill set said they were to do and I'm sorry but Emmitt Smith didn't have big playability neither did most of the big three down power backs.. The ones that played 70 snaps because they were in on every play run pass block.. A skill most players like Tony Pollard does not have...

Emmitt had plenty of big plays. I think you're confusing Emmitt with Moose Johnson. Zeke had it for his first 3 years. At this time in his career we're not going to see Zeke rip off a 30 yard run or longer. He just doesn't have that capability anymore. But I'm sure he can still pass block.

 

[blueblood70]

Emmitt had plenty of big plays. I think you're confusing Emmitt with Moose Johnson. Zeke had it for his first 3 years. At this time in his career we're not going to see Zeke rip off a 30 yard run or longer. He just doesn't have that capability anymore. But I'm sure he can still pass block.

Hey was not known for big plays and he did not have that many big plays, sorry I watched every game of every minute of all the 90s teams as much as I watched this one ...

and Smith did not put up a lot of huge chunk yards he had an occasional one but his end of his career his last five years very much look very familiar to what Ezekiel Elliott is going through...

I'm sorry but his yards per carry says he didn't have many big plays..​

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I mean how can you tell me how many big plays he has and at the end of the season he still only has four yards per carry?? Literally just about every single year on average for Ezekiel Elliott and for Emmett Smith they're almost on par for being around 4 yards per carry..​

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Almost year to year go check it from year one to year eight look at the way the yards per carry averaged out for both players and you're gonna see Emmett Smith very much the same.. He literally was a volume back, he needed 25 to 30 carries to get his 75 to 100 yards and that is about four yards per carry.. that's a fact and I hate to break it to you you're very wrong yes he occasionally had a really big play but he did not consistently have a big play like Tony Pollard or Kamara or Christian McCaffrey or saquon Barkley or even Barry Sanders those were the dudes that broke the long ones on a regular basis that needed the long ones in order to up their yards for carry.​

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whereas Emmitt Smith and Ezekiel Elliott did consistently just handle the rock over and over and over to get around 4 yards per carry.. Same with other dudes like Jerome bettis and Eddie George all of them these guys are four yards per carry... they also need 25 carries or more to get to 100 yards...​

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that's a fact you're arguing with the wrong person if you want to make me do some paste/ cuts I'll show you your memory skewed because he did have a few big plays but because of who he was and his name but that offensive line and his fullback did have something to do with that as well.​

Ezekiel Elliott 's offensive line has gotten worse every year, it's been a rotating door at most of the positions, we know it for a fact. they did not have a run first era in any of our offensive coordinators recently ever since Kellen Moore that's when it looks like he's went downhill when really, he hasn't as much as you accuse him of, had more to do with the offense , play calling, and OL changed.,..

 

[KJJ]

Containing Zeke is the least of our problems

You must not have watched last weeks games. While the Cowboys were giving up over 220 rushing yards in the first half to the lowly Cardinals, Zeke put up 80 yards, averaging 5.0 a carry against the Jets defense. He’s averaged 4.4 a carry this season. He could end up being our biggest problem on Sunday if we’re not ready to play. He’s going to be highly motivated. We better jump on the Pats early to get them away from the run.

 

[blueblood70]

Jones is gonna end up throwing for 300+ yards Sunday watch.

Maybe because I'm probably gonna be over concentrating on stopping the run they may come out and forget about a little bit about the pass

 

[KJJ]

Zeke usually started strong then faded that's how it is. He worries nobody now. Placing the tag on Pollard was the smartest thing Jones did. Get him for one more year then dump him

If we take him for granted and aren’t focused and ready to play he’ll have a big day. After what happened to the Cowboys last Sunday I think a lot of fans are worried about a number of things with this team. Our run defense is still a big concern.