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Better supporting cast Dak or Mahomes

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Dak_Attack_09, Feb 3, 2020.

  1. Northern_Cowboy

    Northern_Cowboy Well-Known Member

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    I will give you this....you are very persistent!
     
  2. zerofill

    zerofill Well-Known Member

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    He has to be trolling most of the time... I mean that is how I see it, Just trying to stir the pot... No one could really make some of these posts and be serious.
     
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  3. charron

    charron Well-Known Member

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    Now that is the discussion. Dak is not good enough with less help than he's had. His time to win has now passed. With so many free agents and 2 big contracts coming I don't see up adding talent I see us replacing guys with lesser talent and taking a step back.
     
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  4. atlantacowboy

    atlantacowboy Zone Supporter

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    Actually, Cooper and Gallup were far more productive than Hill and Watkins. So, you can't give the chiefs the. edge based purely on preseason expectations. Dak has a better supporting cast.

    All you've proven here is that KC has a better team. Now, go compare us to the Jets and Bears who beat us.
     
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  5. InTheZone

    InTheZone Well-Known Member

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    Dak would've been sacked about 8 times that game as we got blown out.
     
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  6. America's Cowboy

    America's Cowboy Well-Known Member

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    Spot on. It makes a big difference.
     
  7. Howboutdemcowboys31

    Howboutdemcowboys31 Well-Known Member

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    and WR tbh
     
  8. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, the Cowboys get the edge at WR. If you add in TEs with the WRs, then KC probably takes the lead. But not with just WR alone.
    Then Dallas has the edge at RB and oline as well.
    So overall, for offensive "supporting cast" , Dallas has the edge overall excluding QB and coach.
     
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  9. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    Bottom line Chiefs team as a whole played SB caliber football. To a man they made plays to help their team win and did not kill themselves with stupid penalties. Teams win championship and KC went out this season and proved they were the best team. As for the Cowboys, they have a lot of talent on this team but they must play as a team and stop shooting themselves in the foot. It will fall to McCarthy and his staff to get the best out of the Cowboys players
     
  10. shabazz

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    Their defense wouldn't have helped when we lost to the Eagles 17-9 for the division title

    The offense kind of has to usually score a touchdown and stuff
     
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  11. ehwqkbmg

    ehwqkbmg Active Member

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    Better QB Dak or Mahomes

    Everything: Mahomes
     
  12. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    Right!

    49ers obviously had better team and SB in control until the best player on the field took the game over.
     
  13. CowboysFaninHouston

    CowboysFaninHouston CowboysFaninDC

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    I say WRs dallas...yes they got Hill, but we were three deep at WR...

    OL is cowboys....more talent across the board...

    coaching...that's key...they definitely had better coaching.

    DL...defintley KC......

    I think our defense had enough talent to compete, with Lawrence, Quinn, Bennett....Smith, Jones....we just didn't play the right scheme.


    I think not all of the above have the same impact. but coaching defintley had the biggest impact.
     
  14. Diehardblues

    Diehardblues Well-Known Member

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    49ers are the team the Cowboys should model after not Chiefs.

    All we need without an Elite QB is build the best defense to carry us. But it’s going to be tough with bulk of our Cap spent on offense .

    Or find the next Mahomes.
     
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  15. blueblood70

    blueblood70 Well-Known Member

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    not 8 but 4 or so maybe 2 strip sack fumbles etc etc yup/

    Mahomes has something to do with the success of the cast around him..they maybe talented but were matched to mahomes strengths and Mahomes ability to find these guys and hit them is much more to do with why they are there.. having a Dak, carr,, goff, or Garpolo type that struggle with those types of passes IE on the run, switching arm angles, vision down field, patience etc etc would have those guy running routes all game and not having the same success as they are now..Its reciprocal but PM is the heart that makes the offense go, Reid , Hill, Watkins etc do not have the same success without Mahomes..its more to do with PM then the cast..

    if it didnt matter they would have stuck with Alex Smith ..wake up doubters hes the new Aaron Rogers with more mobility and an innate feel for the game..its natural for him as Dak everything looks forced looks like a struggle , dude sometimes looks like he needs an exlax or something just to be good all the while PM is great naturally, just flows accorss the field..

    Daks a thrower, PM is passer..I like dak but hes nowhere near PM..
     
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  16. InTheZone

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    yup, most of 49ers money is in the defense. Literally all our money is in the offense and it's still handicapped at this point, and the issue will be 100x worse if Dak gets paid.
     
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  17. Flamma

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    When coaching is so one sided it's hard to do this thought experiment. Last year the chiefs were a neutral zone infraction away from going to the super bowl and their defense was every bit as bad as those cowboy defenses between '11 and '13. The cowboys hard pretty good offensive personnel att that time. All 8-8s. A Garrett led chiefs team would probably be 8-8 as well.
     
  18. JoeKing

    JoeKing Diehard Zone Supporter

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    The BS in that post stinks to high heaven. It's February and you have no idea what "help" Dak will have in 2020 so stop pretending otherwise. Dak just finished his 4th season in the league and you would have us believe "his time to win has now passed"? It's laughable that you think you can get away with a ridiculous comment like that. Do you think your own inability to fathom how the sausage is made in the Cowboys FO means anything? The only thing you have reveal with certainty is your own ignorance.
     
  19. Lutonio

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    Does Andy Reid count here? I know it's a dead horse on this forum, but given this example, I think it definitely needs to be brought up. Reid is, in my opinion, the second best coach of the modern era.

    I'm not hating on Garrett (this time). This is more about believing Reid is that good, outside of the occasional clock management blunder.
     
  20. TheHerd

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    We'll disagree on OL. Ours WAS better, but it isn't at this point.

    And while Cooper is good enough, Tyreek changes games, and lots of them. And ours drop a lot more passes than theirs when it matters.

    I think Dallas fans, and the media for whatever reason, way overestimate the players in this team.
     
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