Better Team - 1977 or 1992?

[Whyjerry]

Which team do you think was better overall between these two Super Bowl champions?

1992. That OL was legendary and would have mauled any defense in history.

 

[terra]

Jerry said he could win with any of 500 coaches. Sadly when Switzer won in the SB Jan 96 with a team built by Ackles, Wooten, and Jimmy, and gift wrapped by Neil O' Donnel, Jerry decided he knew football. The fans have been paying ever since.

personally I have always believed Jerry sold his soul to the devil for that last SB win so that he could say he won one without Jimmy.
The price was one he was never told:
THE DALLAS COWBOYS WILL NEVER WIN ANOTHER SB AS LONG AS YOU LIVE

 

[Flamma]

How do you think the 1993 Cowboys were better? I just look at the relative ease the 92 team seemed to beat the Bills compared to 93...though both games weren't exactly close.

Forget the SB. The year in general. That '92 team was getting better as the year went on. The '93 team peaked. Instead of going by the SB, go by our most difficult opponent. The 49ers.

 

[CrownCowboy]

Sadly a great DL does not by itself win many championships. Doomsday 1 and 2 saw only 2 Lombardi's despite having incredible D lines. Doomsday 2 had arguably the greatest in history with Too Tall, Havey, Dutton and Manster.
The Fearsome Foursome of the Rams did not get a ring. The Purple People Eater D line did not get a ring.

How right you are.

I've heard my dad talk about the Doomsday D's. He always said they should have won more despite what they did win.

 

[Fmart322]

Which team do you think was better overall between these two Super Bowl champions?

1977

 

[mldardy]

1992.

But 1993 was the best Cowboys team of all time.

Nah. 92 was better. They were 13-3 and went on the road to beat 14-2 Niners and then smashed the Bills. The only bad loss we had that year was to the Rams. I'm never going to complain about 93 but they had a lot of obstacles/distractions that season (Emmitt's holdout, Troy's injury).

 

[cowboyec]

'77.

 

[SFloridaCowboy]

1992. That OL was legendary and would have mauled any defense in history.

You really cannot compare the 77 and 92 teams. The offensive linemen rules before 78 were such you had to have quicker lighter linemen because the offensive lineman's hands could not go beyond the width of his body.

Randy White, Harvey Martin were outright superstars with enormous stats and impact. Too Tall Jones blocked passes, caused higher arcs on throws and created nightmares on obvious passing downs. They were home grown, drafted in 3 consecutive drafts. Casillas and Haley wee traded to the Bots.The top three DL studs on 77 team are better than Hailey, Casillas, Maryland. The Manster was Hall of famer and Harvey won MVP that year with 23 sacks. He ran a sub 4.6 40.

I loved both teams. They have given me everlasting joy.

Erik Williams in 1993 was the best OL in football. He knocked people over like a bowling ball. But the idiot gt drunk and drove himself into a rollover accident, broke his leg badly and when he returned, he was 60% of what he was previously

 

[RoboQB]

If they actually played each other the 92 team would murk them. A complete rout.

Yes, but only because Haley would've knocked Roger out of the game early.
(Just kidding, of course. The '77 team would be gassed by halftime. Except Hollywood. )

 

[JJHLH1]

The 1992 team will always be my favorite, and the best.

 

[plasticman]

I think both teams are stacked with HOFers. It’s close. Im partial to 77 because of Roger snd Doomsday but depth and speed of 92 is big

Depth?

1977 was the year most of the 1975 "Dirty Dozen" rookies began replacing the old veterans who then began serving as backups before retiring after the season as SB champions.

Roger Staubach's backup was Danny White

Drew Pearson's was Butch Johnson and Golden Richards was Tony Hill who eventually took his job.

On the offensive line, the tackles were veterans LT Ralphy Neely and HOFer RT Rayfield Wright, However, Wright played in only two games and was replaced by one of the three members of the Irish Connection on the Cowboys new offensive line, Pat Donovan. Donovan would later switch to LT and earn 4 consecutive Pro Bowl selections. The Center and RG were John Fitzgerald and Tom Rafferty. They were backed up by Burton Lawless and Herbert Scott, two more eventual starters. Scott would also go on to earn three Pro Bowl selections and two 1st team All Pro.

I'm sure everyone knows the RB's , Dorsett and Newhouse. The backups were the leading rusher of a previous Super Bowl season, Preston Pearson and Dirty Dozen member Scott Laidlaw.

The DE's were two duos, Thunder and Lightning. However, the Lightning duo of Harvey Martin and "Too Tall" Jones were becoming the more active pair and they were now listed as the starters. One of the backups was Larry Cole, formerly of Thunder. He was an original starter for many seasons, including SB seasons.

The LB had eventual starter Mike Hegman as a backup while the secondary had eventual starters Mark Washinton and Benny Barnes.

The greatest reason that 1977 is their greatest season was their coach Tom Landry who did something unique, something you never saw in NFL history.

In a three year period, Landry made a seamless rebuilding job, replacing his older team with new players. The transition was so smooth that the Cowboys went to two Super Bowls during that three year rebuild, 1975 to 1977.

The season of 1977 was when you had a combination of the old SB veterans and their younger future replacements. The new group would eventually take them to the Super Bowl the next year followed by three consecutive NFC championship games.

In 1977, again #1 offense and #1 defense, this team had them all, old and new. That was depth.

 

[BAT]

Forget the SB. The year in general. That '92 team was getting better as the year went on. The '93 team peaked. Instead of going by the SB, go by our most difficult opponent. The 49ers.

Niners were only difficult after Jimmy left.

Jimmy took that swagger with him.

 

[BAT]

1992. That OL was legendary and would have mauled any defense in history.

You really cannot compare the 77 and 92 teams. The offensive linemen rules before 78 were such you had to have quicker lighter linemen because the offensive lineman's hands could not go beyond the width of his body.

Randy White, Harvey Martin were outright superstars with enormous stats and impact. Too Tall Jones blocked passes, caused higher arcs on throws and created nightmares on obvious passing downs. They were home grown, drafted in 3 consecutive drafts. Casillas and Haley wee traded to the Bots.The top three DL studs on 77 team are better than Hailey, Casillas, Maryland. The Manster was Hall of famer and Harvey won MVP that year with 23 sacks. He ran a sub 4.6 40.

I loved both teams. They have given me everlasting joy.

Erik Williams in 1993 was the best OL in football. He knocked people over like a bowling ball. But the idiot gt drunk and drove himself into a rollover accident, broke his leg badly and when he returned, he was 60% of what he was previously

Erik Williams had his accident in 1994 season.

After Jimmy left.

 

[fairviewfarmer]

Saw both seasons, all games in their entirety. 92 team was more dominating against its opponents than the 77 team was.

 

[Miller]

Depth?

1977 was the year most of the 1975 "Dirty Dozen" rookies began replacing the old veterans who then began serving as backups before retiring after the season as SB champions.

Roger Staubach's backup was Danny White

Drew Pearson's was Butch Johnson and Golden Richards was Tony Hill who eventually took his job.

On the offensive line, the tackles were veterans LT Ralphy Neely and HOFer RT Rayfield Wright, However, Wright played in only two games and was replaced by one of the three members of the Irish Connection on the Cowboys new offensive line, Pat Donovan. Donovan would later switch to LT and earn 4 consecutive Pro Bowl selections. The Center and RG were John Fitzgerald and Tom Rafferty. They were backed up by Burton Lawless and Herbert Scott, two more eventual starters. Scott would also go on to earn three Pro Bowl selections and two 1st team All Pro.

I'm sure everyone knows the RB's , Dorsett and Newhouse. The backups were the leading rusher of a previous Super Bowl season, Preston Pearson and Dirty Dozen member Scott Laidlaw.

The DE's were two duos, Thunder and Lightning. However, the Lightning duo of Harvey Martin and "Too Tall" Jones were becoming the more active pair and they were now listed as the starters. One of the backups was Larry Cole, formerly of Thunder. He was an original starter for many seasons, including SB seasons.

The LB had eventual starter Mike Hegman as a backup while the secondary had eventual starters Mark Washinton and Benny Barnes.

The greatest reason that 1977 is their greatest season was their coach Tom Landry who did something unique, something you never saw in NFL history.

In a three year period, Landry made a seamless rebuilding job, replacing his older team with new players. The transition was so smooth that the Cowboys went to two Super Bowls during that three year rebuild, 1975 to 1977.

The season of 1977 was when you had a combination of the old SB veterans and their younger future replacements. The new group would eventually take them to the Super Bowl the next year followed by three consecutive NFC championship games.

In 1977, again #1 offense and #1 defense, this team had them all, old and new. That was depth.

I know. Great post! As I said I lean 77 because they were one of my fave teams at 7 yrs old and I vividly remember the Bronco SB. Heck 2 of my favorite Cowboys plays ever was the Butch Johnson diving catch/drop and the Newhouse halfback pass to Golden. Heck my avatar has always been my fave D combo. What I meant by depth on 92 was they had waves of guys with speed that could wear down teams and stay fresh. But, again, Awesome post man!

 

[JPM]

That 1977 team was loaded with talent. These players in their careers

OFFENSE
Roger Staubach- HOF
Danny White All Pro
Tony Dorsett- HOF
Robert Newhouse- All Pro
Preston Pearson- All Pro
Drew Pearson- HOF
Tony Hill- All Pro
Golden Richards- All Pro
Butch Johnson( Lions offered a 1st round pick in a trade which we turned them down)
Billy Joe Dupree- All Pro
Rayfield Wright- HOF
Pat Donavan- All Pro
Herb Scott- All Pro
Ralph Neely- All Pro
Tom Rafferty- All Pro


DEFENSE....

Too Tall Jones- All Pro
Randy White- HOF
Jethro Pugh- All Pro
Harvey Martin-All Pro
Hollywood Henderson- All Pro
Bob Breunig- All Pro
DD Lewis- All Pro
Aaron Kyle- All Pro
Charlie Waters- All Pro
Cliff Harris- All Pro
Mel Renfro- HOF

Harris should be in the HOF.

 

[SFloridaCowboy]

The 77 team had lightning at RB, breakwaway speedster Tony Dorsett. The backup Preston Pearson averaged an insane 11.6 yards per catch.

Folks, let's love them both. I saw them both. I loved both 88's.

The 77 DLINE was off the charts. No year can match them. I can tell you, Harvey Martin, too Tall Jones, and the Manster played all the downs, all the game. There were no waves of back-ups coming in like 92 with Jimmy Jones, Chad Henning and Leon Lett. These 77 men were 60 minute players. And no one at defensive end can ever match Harvey Martin's domination with 23 sacks in 14 games in 1977. Next to him was The Manster with 12.5 sacks. That is 35.5 sacks from just two players!! Too Tall Jones did not get all the big stats, as Landry had the flex defense where the LDE had to look for run first and he could only tee off on obvious passing downs. If Harvey Martin had not been there and Too Tall started at RDE, Too Tall would have possibly had 30 sacks. He had the largest wingspan of any defender in NFL history.

I remember after the Hail Mary pass and catch, Minnesota got the ball back. Too Tall was turned loose. I watched the film. Twice, he threw the ROT aside like a doll and enveloped and sacked the Vikes QB on consecutive plays to close out the victory. The excitement from Drew Pearson's miracle catch was so great, they forget Too Tall shutting down the Vikes in absolute domination.

In the 77 Super Bowl, Randy White, Harvey Martin and Too Tall turned in completely dominating performances. They shut out the Red Crush of Denver in the first half. The 1992 team gave up 10 points in the first half. I admit the wipeout of the Bills in the 2nd half of the 1993 Super Bowl was the greatest half of Cowboy football in history.

In three consecutive drafts, the Boys rebuilt their DL. Martin, 3rd round in 73, Too Tall #1 pick in entire draft 64, Randy White 2nd pick of 1975 draft after ATL took QB Bartkowski.

The x factor in comparing 77 and 92. Roger could scramble and buy time. Troy could not, but really did not need to. But in championship games , every talent may be needed

Flashback, they kept stating yesterday, teams who start 0-2 almost never make the playoffs. 1993, Emmitt held out for first two games and Boys lost both. From 0-2, they went 12-2, finsishing 12-4 and won the Super Bowl.

While thinking about the past, we are witnessing one of the great feats in sports history this year by a giant of man with great strength, who plays great offense and great defense. He was a first round draft pick out of Fresno State. The verdict is in. They will judge this year for generations. The closest thing to a natural Superman ever to hit the field. And his personality and character are perfect. AARON JUDGE. Get on MLB Network each night as they switch over to each historic at-bat. 59 and counting. 62 to break the all-time HR record for the AL and the Yankees. Ghosts of Ruth and Maris will rejoice to see a true Bronx Bomber do it.