Better To Bite The Bullet Than Extend Dak

[Mannix]

Not once have I heard a viable succession plan for moving on from Dak. I guess cutting him loose, going 4-13 and hoping to get a good player in the 2025 draft is the plan? LOL.

Again....THAT IS NOT OUR JOB.....let Booger and his so called genius WIll McClay figure it out....but we can't have FIVE More years of the &*#% we are about to see in a couple of weeks.

 

[5Stars]

To be considered as an MVP candidate you have to be playing at an MVP level. He’s 1st in the league in TD’s and top 5 in almost all categories. It’s shocking this has to be explained. But you WERE Army

Fine, fill me in when he is awarded the MVP. Until then, hold your breath.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm letting someone else pay the mansion price for the double wide if I'm Jerry.

You are on fire in this thread.

 

[big dog cowboy]

He’s an NFL MVP candidate.

Wining the MVP isn't the goal. It sells tickets and merch and tv viewership. That's all.

I'd much rather be putting another Lombardi trophy in the trophy case in a few weeks.

 

[diamonddelts]

You really think Mayfield is going to get market value??? HAHAHHAHAHAHA

Geno Smith says "hi!".

I said "want." I know you live in West Virginia but at least try to have a regular non-bubba conversation.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

You are on fire in this thread.

The "market value" justification fans throw out to defend paying Dak crazy money is just ridiculous to me.

They wouldn't pay the mansion price for the double wide just because it's in the same neighborhood, but yet they are defending Jerry doing just that with Dak.

Not only are you getting a double wide with Dak, but you're not going to have anything left over furnish your home with quality products.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I said "want." I know you live in West Virginia but at least try to have a regular non-bubba conversation.

It doesn't matter what Baker wants.

If you was the owner with your "embrace medicity" attitude then maybe his wants would matter, but the owners in the NFL don't care about Mayfields "wants".

I'm sure Geno Smith had "wants" to get market value also. How'd that go for him?

 

[Rockport]

Wining the MVP isn't the goal. It sells tickets and merch and tv viewership. That's all.

I'd much rather be putting another Lombardi trophy in the trophy case in a few weeks.

Me too.

 

[big dog cowboy]

The "market value" justification fans throw out to defend paying Dak crazy money is just ridiculous to me.

They wouldn't pay the mansion price for the double wide just because it's in the same neighborhood, but yet they are defending Jerry doing just that with Dak.

Not only are you getting a double wide with Dak, but you're not going to have anything left over furnish your home with quality products.

That is the road we are on. People laugh when I say this but I would offer Dak $25M-30M and tell him A. we need to field a team and B. he makes so much more off the field he doesn't need the money.

This trend of paying the next QB more than the previous one is beyond dumb. I'm shocked the NFL owners are dumb enough to keep playing this game.

 

[leeblair]

He’s an NFL MVP candidate. You're better off keeping your trap shut.

No, he's not. That went out the door with Buffalo and the Dolphins.
You make yourself look bad trying to hype Dak after all these years of him choking.

 

[diamonddelts]

It doesn't matter what Baker wants.

If you was the owner with your "embrace medicity" attitude then maybe his wants would matter, but the owners in the NFL don't care about Mayfields "wants".

I'm sure Geno Smith had "wants" to get market value also. How'd that go for him?

More importantly, how did it go for Seattle? Are they in serious Super Bowl contention? You just continue to make my point for me.

 

[Diehardblues]

Market price is the norm for franchise ( not necessarily elite) QB’s in NFL. Prescott is currently tied for 10th .
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...terbacks-2023-salary/zqrureirykzx3z7hyq713qov

QB contracts aren’t a pecking order but rather represents when they signed as it increases every year.

Good news like with Prescott those average salaries don’t even really impact the yearly Cap as such because of huge signing bonuses they receive . The impact is usually at end of contract as why they are commonly restructured or resigned to avoid back end big Cap hit.

Prescotts average Cap hits thus far have been fairly minimal so when we hear and or see these big average yearly salaries those aren’t Cap hits which can strain team building.

Daks cap hits for 2021 17 million , 2022 19 million and 2023 26 million. Which are manageable cap hits. The final year in 2024 will be almost 60 million and why must take action in resigning or restructuring if you plan on retaining him.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dak-prescott-19089/

 

[Whirlwin]

It’s no different than now. Nothing changes. Salary cap goes up everything stays the same.

But what about the 150 mil Parsons and 100mil CeeDee is going to want.
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Never said that so I don’t know how my name got on that

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

That is the road we are on. People laugh when I say this but I would offer Dak $25M-30M and tell him A. we need to field a team and B. he makes so much more off the field he doesn't need the money.

This trend of paying the next QB more than the previous one is beyond dumb. I'm shocked the NFL owners are dumb enough to keep playing this game.

It's got to stop eventually and I believe it will just like it has with RBs.

The owners can't keep upping the QB price every time it's someone's turn to get paid.

We kinda saw it with the Watson contract. He got the $250 mil fully guaranteed, but other owners were not willing to do that with better QBs than Watson.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

More importantly, how did it go for Seattle? Are they in serious Super Bowl contention? You just continue to make my point for me.

Dallas MIGHT play just one more game that Seattle.

Go us!

 

[Rockport]

No, he's not. That went out the door with Buffalo and the Dolphins.
You make yourself look bad trying to hype Dak after all these years of him choking.

I’m not hyping him, the NFL is.

 

[Whirlwin]

It’s no different than now. Nothing changes. Salary cap goes up everything stays the same.

But what about the 150 mil Parsons and 100mil CeeDee is going to want.
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Every year, same old story, nothing changes we always manipulate the salary cap

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Dak has been the benefactor of a very weak NFC East and soft schedules, but when he's faced real teams with the season on the line he has choked every time.
He has cost the Cowboys at least two division titles and at least three chances to go to the Super Bowl- including last year, in which the Cowboys were the best team in the NFC at the end of the season but went home because Dak choked vs San Francisco for the second straight year.
So the Eagles, who were not the same team that played earlier in the season because Hurts was a gimp, won the conference by default because Purdy was hurt.
How can you justify paying Dak top money with that kind of established history?

Correction- the Cowboys have choked every time they have faced what you call "real" teams (not all the make believe ones they've beaten with Dak at QB).

Remember, if you want to credit the team for all of Dak's success you need to blame the team for Dak's failures as well. Can't have it both ways just to nurture an agenda.

 

[5Stars]

I’m not hyping him, the NFL is.

You mean the NFL...was. Not any longer.

 

[Diehardblues]

Most NFL teams with few exceptions hang on to their Franchise QB’s who have had a fairly consistent playoff contender and with respectable passing statistics with some success. Just because you haven’t won a championship doesn’t mean your QB isn’t enough to build around .

Obviously not all Franchise QB’s are Elite but unfortunately there simply isn’t enough Elite QB’s to go around to 32 teams with usually only a handful at any given time.

The fact we have a top10 caliber non Elite QB by NFL standards especially with consistent playoff appearances would generally be enough to stay the course despite whatever shortcomings, frustrations and criticism.

That doesn’t mean we can’t continue looking in the draft for a strong backup and potential heir apparent especially as our Franchise QB ages into his 30’s.

The Cowboys are doing what most teams in the NFL have to do. Build around a less than Elite HOF caliber QB as best they can. Even those few Elite QB’s in the league is tough to build a championship team around.

There’s no guarantee either way. And I’d be looking more to the supporting cast and other contributing factors like the coaching staffs, front office continuity , team culture along with success in draft to address the other positional weaknesses but generally you’d stay the course with a QB like Prescott’s level of success.