Big 12 is keeping me interested

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Will they expand will they not expand.
Will they have a Championship game or not
If they expand will it be with G5 schools or try to wait for P5 Schools
Will they get poached or try poaching from others
Will Texas and OU ever get on the same page concerning Expansion.

Will the Big 12 last beyond it's GOR Expiration date
 

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With the situation ESPN is in and TV deals overall, this may just settle down.
 

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They are doing a Press Conference right now.

They will be having a Conference Championship game in the future (probably 2017).

Concerning a standard Big 12 Network...Boren said that ship has sailed.

No Expansion at this point but still looking at things
 

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having a championship game with only 10 teams is stupid except for making more money of course. A guaranteed rematch just sucks.
 

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I just want the Big 12 to disband already.......in a perfect world my Longhorns would go to the SEC with lil ol OU on our backs....keep that rivalry and renew the A&M rivalry....West Virginia to the ACC (my wife is from WV and so I had become a casual fan of the Mountaineers before they joined the Big 12)......All the others I couldnt care less about....go to the PAC or CUSA....
 

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having a championship game with only 10 teams is stupid except for making more money of course. A guaranteed rematch just sucks.

That's why I think they still add at least two more teams.
 

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Never understood why they didn't expand.

One of the questions all along has been "what teams would upgrade the conference (or not hurt it) and actually want to join it"?

Maybe BYU and Cincy?

Just looks hard to find actual upgrades

Anyway, getting a good fit isn't so easy.
 

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One of the questions all along has been "what teams would upgrade the conference (or not hurt it) and actually want to join it"?

Maybe BYU and Cincy?

Just looks hard to find actual upgrades

Anyway, getting a good fit isn't so easy.

The problem is the Big 12 was late to the party. They should have been more proactive in keeping the schols they lost or acted when they had their choice of schools.
 

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The problem is the Big 12 was late to the party. They should have been more proactive in keeping the schols they lost or acted when they had their choice of schools.

Yep...reminds me of the Big East in many ways except the Big East always kept Basketball Schools ahead of Football...similar to the ACC IMO.

Texas also lingered along waiting or HOPING (those in formally in the Big East knew not to trust it) for ND to join the Big 12 and help be a crushing blow to the ACC...instead of just getting Clemson and FSU to join (before the GOR). But they waited too long and ND joined the ACC (not football but added football games) to help and the ACC got a GOR in place to help stabilize after losing Maryland to the Big 10.

So now some don't want to expand the Big 12 unless it is with Power 5 Schools. Some are under the impression that FSU might still be interested because they think that if they (ESPN) can not create an ACC network as promised than FSU can null and void the GOR. I doubt that happens. Seems like other Power 5 conferences have a GOR or they are the SEC who no team would leave.

So some fans/schools don't want to go with a lesser G5 schools that are available. But at one time they were talking of a Big 12 Network if they could convince Texas to fold the LHN into the Big 12 Network and look for teams that had the largest TV footprint. That is why UCONN popped up due to them possible gaining some of the NY cable area.

Now with no standard Network looking like it will happen, instead it seems like they might be talking about a digital one. I would hazard to guess they are looking at best teams in Football instead of move viewers or possible cable subscribers.

At one time it was thought that UC and UCONN with BYU as the third with the old cable type expansion method. Now maybe it is UC and BYU with UCONN as third. UC and BYU provide the best bundle of Football and Basketball. However there is the problem with the BYU and some of the things they have to work with (no play on sundays and so on). There is also the idea that they orginially wanted to expand East. UC and UCONN would achieve that.

Personally I think if they only go two at this time...It should be BYU and UC. I think that gives you the best bundle of football and basketball while UCONN just gives you mostly Basketball.

I think we need to expand by two right now...even if it is G5 schools.

I don't think any P5 schools can get out of a GOR right now but if they could that would be ideal.

Recent word is that both Arizona Schools might be intersted in the Big 12 but again I don't know about the GOR with the PAC.

I just hope they don't sit on their butts like the Big East did while everyone passed them by...the big east turned into being Reactive instead of Proactive and it destroyed it's overall brand and especially football brand over the years as the ACC kept poaching. But that was probably what the basketball schools wanted all along.

I really knew the big east was in trouble with The had the head of ND be the head of an expansion committee to look for football schools to join the big east and ND refused to join in football. What kind of crazy crap was that.

Now it seems like with have the Big 12 having a urinating contest between Texas and OU and it would seem one is in favor of expansion (OU) but Texas is not. However the big 12 needs a super majority to approve expansion which means they need 8 or more votes to approve. Word is they have 7 as is...but UT has one vote and they have TCU and TT sticking with them.

We will see...I am hoping that this summer they will announce at least two teams. The two teams might not actually be added until 2017 (same as the champ game at earliest) or 2018. I would also expect a graduated contract for the two new teams like they did with TCU and WVU where they only make a percentage of what the other teams do for the first 4-5 years.

Another interesting thing is the lobbying of some teams to join the big 12.

The two most interesting teams might be Houston and Memphis.

I don;t know what the big 12 would want yet another texas team in teh Big 12 but who knows.

Memphis by itself has not been much in football until this past season. HOWEVER word is that FedEx (housed in memphis) is willing to add up to $50 million or more money to get Memphis in the big 12. They are also willing to pay to sponsor the Big 12 championship game. I don't know if the champ/sponsor is in addition to the $50 mill or part of it. Either way that is a nice chunk of change that might be hard to pass on.

Interesting times in the Big 12. I just hope things work out cause as a WVU...i don't want to feel like we will have to find yet another conference to join when the GOR for the Big 12 is up and franky, contrary to what many fellow WVU fans feel, I want nothing to do with the ACC.
 

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Just sayin...:cool:

Maybe they boot Baylor out, if they give them the death penalty, and replace them with Houston.

@WoodysGirl might be happy.
 

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Honestly, I think there will be four super conferences and it is a race between the ACC and Big 12 to see who survives. My money is on the ACC surviving.
 

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Honestly, I think there will be four super conferences and it is a race between the ACC and Big 12 to see who survives. My money is on the ACC surviving.

I see almost zero chance that the ACC does not survive at least until 2026. Even then, there is just way too much overall strength there.
I mean, in 2015 they had three different schools win a title in Football, Basketball, and Baseball. Kind of sick.
Plus, they may actually have more teams than they need.. .so they could let a couple go at a leter date if they so chose.

I keep hearing the Big 12 has narrowed things down to maybe 2 of 3 teams
Cincinnati
BYU
Houston.

One article says UConn and UCF are no longer in the equation.

And though others like UCF, USF, Colorado State, ECU, Memphis, Tulane have hinted interest, I think that interest is more one-way.

Here's an article

http://www.frogsowar.com/2016/6/6/11860950/big-12-expansion-its-down-to-byu-houston-and-cincinnati
 

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I see almost zero chance that the ACC does not survive at least until 2026. Even then, there is just way too much overall strength there.
I mean, in 2015 they had three different schools win a title in Football, Basketball, and Baseball. Kind of sick.
Plus, they may actually have more teams than they need.. .so they could let a couple go at a leter date if they so chose.

I keep hearing the Big 12 has narrowed things down to maybe 2 of 3 teams
Cincinnati
BYU
Houston.

One article says UConn and UCF are no longer in the equation.

And though others like UCF, USF, Colorado State, ECU, Memphis, Tulane have hinted interest, I think that interest is more one-way.

Here's an article

http://www.frogsowar.com/2016/6/6/11860950/big-12-expansion-its-down-to-byu-houston-and-cincinnati

The teams just doesn't move the needle at all. I wish the Big 12 could have gotten Clemson and FSU when the ACC was threatening to break up. Those schools blow every last one of the options out of the water.
 

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I heard today that Central Florida is petitioning to join the Big 12

Not sure if the Big 12 is interesting but they are one of the top 3 largest universities and are in a large TV market.

http://espn.go.com/college-football...ersity-central-florida-makes-case-join-big-12

With all due respect to UCF, it's highly unlikely at this point.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...etings-mike-bianchi-0604-20160603-column.html

If nothing else, this should be an alarming wake-up call for the Knights, who know now more than ever they need to stop dreaming and start doing; quit fantasizing about what they wish they were and start realizing what they really are. And what the Knights are right now is a losing athletic program with its three major sports teams — football, basketball and baseball — all coming off abysmal seasons.
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Not that UCF wouldn't still love to be a part of the Big 12 — as dysfunctional as it might be — but the Knights aren't nearly as appealing as they once were. UCF's most alluring quality as an expansion candidate has been its Florida location and TV market size, but those factors aren't nearly as important if the Big 12 isn't going to start a nationwide TV network.


Quite frankly, UCF's athletic reputation has never been lower than it its right now. It's difficult to be taken seriously as an expansion candidate when your football team was 0-12 last season, your basketball team was 12-18 and your baseball team was 26-33.
 

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The teams just doesn't move the needle at all. I wish the Big 12 could have gotten Clemson and FSU when the ACC was threatening to break up. Those schools blow every last one of the options out of the water.

BYU doesn't move the needle?
 

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I'm a big Texas fan, (TCU first though) but I think they are really hampering the Big 12 with their Longhorn Network. Before long, they may end up in the SEC. (a death sentence for the Big 12)

While there is rumors that Texas A&M would try to block Texas from joining the SEC, I think if they did that it would be to their own peril as I wouldn't doubt the rest of the SEC would lambaste them since Texas is the biggest money maker in all of college football. Though, I'm sure if Texas were to join the SEC. They would probably be forced to drop the Longhorn Network or at least merge it in to another offering. Though, I have very little confidence in Texas leadership as they are more interested in the money they currently make than long term success.
 
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