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Big Run Tell by Cowboys

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Jkyle, Nov 14, 2018.

  1. Ken

    Ken Well-Known Member

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    The one time i remember them passing is when Dak got killed on the play action boot...
  2. Risen Star

    Risen Star Likes Collector Zone Supporter

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    You don't notice that. Or if you do and it's true then Garrett wants you to notice that to set you and the defense up for something later.
  3. buybuydandavis

    buybuydandavis Well-Known Member

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    Fair point.

    But if you just wanted to check coverage, why not run a WR out wide, away from the run play? You still figure out the coverage, but you move a defender out of the box.
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  4. ghst187

    ghst187 Well-Known Member

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    And that’s why we fail...:( :facepalm:
  5. zerofill

    zerofill Well-Known Member

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    I want them to take that screen on 3rd and long and shove it as well... every team seems to read that like a friggin book.
  6. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

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    And then they complain about 8-9 man stack boxes. Garrett/Linehan think they are smarter than everyone. But they fool no one. Except, of course, Jerry.
  7. ConstantReboot

    ConstantReboot Well-Known Member

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    When something actually works and goes for a big game, this coaching staff never call it again. I guess is called the "process." They have to keep doing over and over until it gives a different result. I call that insanity.
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  8. Mr_C

    Mr_C Carharris2

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    Does he ever run an identical play and give it to Zeke? That is, carry out the fake rollout after he gives it to Zeke.
  9. Alexander

    Alexander What's it going to be then, eh?

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    Noah Brown in the game = run
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  10. Doomsday

    Doomsday Rising Star Zone Supporter

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    Been doing it for 4 years now too. It isn't just the motion, a lot of times they put in Noah Brown etc as well.

    They actually threw a pass out of it vs the Eagles last week but it was incomplete.
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  11. rnr_honeybadger

    rnr_honeybadger Well-Known Member

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    This is essentially what people have been talking about when they say that the Cowboys are predictable. The problem is that this whole offense works if you can line your people up against the opponent and just flat out beat them by out executing them. Sure that will work some of the time but the elite teams in the league are going to shut this down without much of an issue. That is where coaching and scheming come into play and the Cowboys don't seem to do that.
  12. TexasHillbilly

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    I thought the Eagles game was a pretty good mixup of plays by the OC. So even we as spectators can tell when they will run the ball especially when the motion man stops right inside the TE. The defense still has to stop it. 150 yds plus rushing. Looks like the Eagles didn't know it was going to be a run, and if they did, they still had problems stopping it. We busted em up all night....at least in the 2nd half. If we get 150 yds running we win 90 out of 100 times. Notice I didn't say 99 out of a 100.
  13. birdwells1

    birdwells1 Well-Known Member

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    I was watching in preseason and someone pointed this out that every time a new quarterback comes in the naked bootleg is called to make the quarterback feel comfortable so it may be called to start the half for the same reason.
  14. charron

    charron Well-Known Member

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    They use the extra wr to block the de, or lb on the backside. Just enough to force the defender wide, giving a cutback lane if needed. This allows the RB to get to the 2nd level facing that cb who followed the wr in the box. Linehan uses this too much IMHO.
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  15. buybuydandavis

    buybuydandavis Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the description.

    I'm not convinced by the tactic, though. Sounds like you aren't either.

    Seems like a block destined to fail more often than not, with the advantage to the defender who is larger and stronger than the WR, and now you've crowded the box with two more players.

    They would do this with Beasley and Austin. How are they supposed to be winning against DEs and LBs?

    The tactic is a bit more credible with Noah Brown. He at least has some reasonable chance to block bigger guys. But if you're the defense, wouldn't you actually match up a LB against Brown, since you're not worried about his receiving at all? Or at least a big safety? He's not running away from anyone. And now you're bringing a credible run defender into the box.

    Still don't like it, but the switch off is trying to do something. I just doubt it works that well. I'll have to look for it next game.
  16. visionary

    visionary Well-Known Member

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    The ginger clapper has been setting up the rest of the league for 8 years. They have a completely separate playbook for when they get to the SB .....
  17. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    You can always point to certain games where the strategy works but with a decade of predictable football we know it doesn't bring consistent positive results or playoff wins.

    Relying solely on your talent is not the way of todays NFL.
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  18. TexasHillbilly

    TexasHillbilly Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it ever has been. Us and the eagles both had "dream teams" and neither one did well that year.

    I do agree with your post. This win one lose one is driving me crazy.
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  19. Pokes12

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    Noah Brown or Olawale in the game = RUN!!! Every defense knows this.
  20. charron

    charron Well-Known Member

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    The wr is just a body in the way really. Not expected to hold blocks but that would help. If they can force the DE to go a bit outside zeke has a cut back lane. Since the run is designed to go the other way if blocking is good it won't matter if the wr block helps. Not a big fan of it being used alot, but I would use it to setup a fake or screen or some kind of misdirection play.
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