Bill Parcells on Mike & Mike... Cancelled

FuzzyLumpkins;2107435 said:
How do you think they cover the gap on each side of the tackle? By maninng up on him. It didnt say the gaps on the outside of the guard too.

why are you acting like I'm saying anything differently?

I only brought up the outside the shoulder stuff to explain the difference between Parcells' 2-gap, and Wade's 1-gap, because in Parcells' version of the 3-4, the 3-down linemen tie up the blockers, which is why Parcells wanted to take Spears over a potentially dominating Ware
 
Bob Sacamano;2107434 said:
Q: What is the difference between a two-gap defense and a one-gap defense?

Buchsbaum: In a two-gap defense, the defensive linemen are generally responsible for two gaps, which means they have to be bigger, stronger men who play the run better. In a one-gap scheme, a player is just responsible for one gap. Thus, he can be a lighter, quicker defensive lineman who is blowing into the backfield more often. In a two-gap, the lineman’s first responsibility is to play the run, and he is responsible for two entire gaps. For example, a defensive tackle would be responsible for the gap on either side of the guard across from him. In the two-gap, a defender will play head-up on (directly across from) an offensive lineman so that it is easier for him to get to and cover either gap.




how is that any different than what I've been saying?? sometimes I wonder about you

I dont wonder aobut you in the slightest. Your capacity to figure things out is abou tnil.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;2107438 said:
I dont wonder aobut you in the slightest. Your capacity to figure things out is abou tnil.

that's why you're arguing w/ me, using everything I'm saying, right?
 
Bob Sacamano;2107437 said:
why are you acting like I'm saying anything differently?

I only brought up the outside the shoulder stuff to explain the difference between Parcells' 2-gap, and Wade's 1-gap, because in Parcells' version of the 3-4, the 3-down linemen tie up the blockers, which is why Parcells wanted to take Spears over a potentially dominating Ware

Parcells 3-4 lined up DL directly over the offensive linemen. That doesnt force a double team. The DL only tries to engage their man and control the gpas on either side of him.

That was the entire problem with the Parcell's 3-4, that it didn't protect the LBers.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;2107441 said:
Parcells 3-4 lined up DL directly over the offensive linemen. That doesnt force a double team. The DL only tries to engage their man and control the gpas on either side of him.

That was the entire problem with the Parcell's 3-4, that it didn't protect the LBers.

and why do they do that? TO TIE UP THE LINEMEN TO KEEP THEM OFF THE LBERS!!
 
Bob Sacamano;2107439 said:
that's why you're arguing w/ me, using everything I'm saying, right?

Becaue you are coming to the wrong conclusion from it. thats my whole point.

If you think that Parcells 3-4 protects LBers more than a 1 gap scheme then youre not paying attention. wade only went over it at length about 50 times last offseason.
 
Bob Sacamano;2107442 said:
and why do they do that? TO TIE UP THE LINEMEN TO KEEP THEM OFF THE LBERS!!

How do you tie up the guards when youre lined up directly over tackles and center. Just reach out and engage them?

What do you think the oline does when you shoot a gap? You think they stop trying to block you? No they still have to block but the fact they are in the gap creates more traffic for the guards to get through which buys the LBers time.

When you line up directly over the player it forces the oline to do nothing other than 1 on 1 block. Now they can choose to double tem but they dont have to.

You lack any basic understanding of how run defense develops.
 
superpunk;2107344 said:


Still drinking up the Parcells kool-aid...

WHat would it look like if Parcells said he was bringing in Vinny Testaverde to the long-term solution to the Dallas Cowboys, especially considering it was Jerry Jones number one priority to develop a young quarterback to replace AIkman at all costs? Don't forget that Vinny came before another QB that Parcells brought in? WHat exactly was Drew Bledsoe brought in for by Parcells to teach Romo? He didn't even want to take Bledsoe out, but was forced into the situation because of that statue... And the very first game Tony Romo started, by half-time, Parcells was looking shell-shocked and depressed... He was forced into playing Tony Romo....

Parcells is full of crap...
 
khiladi;2107981 said:
Still drinking up the Parcells kool-aid...

WHat would it look like if Parcells said he was bringing in Vinny Testaverde to the long-term solution to the Dallas Cowboys, especially considering it was JJ's number one priority was to develop a young quarterback? Don't forget that Vinny came before another QB that Parcells brought in? WHat exactly wasDrew Bledsoe brought in for by Parcells to teach Romo? He didn't even want to take Bledsoe out, but was forced into the situation.

Parcells is full of crap...
I guess when Tony Romo talks about how much he learned from Testaverde, he's full of crap, too.

You're full of interesting revelations.
 
superpunk;2107991 said:
I guess when Tony Romo talks about how much he learned from Testaverde, he's full of crap, too.

You're full of interesting revelations.

Of course he is... WHat is he going to say when Parcells is there? Vinny sucked balls and all I learned from him was how to prepare diligently and work hard, and when it comes to game-time, launch interception after interception... People say plenty of politically correct things... It doesn't take 4 years to learn from a player how to work hard and weight-lift...

You be damn well sure that Tony Romo, while he may have been patient, wasn't all too happy he was riding the pine for 4 years...
 
khiladi;2107995 said:
Of course he is... WHat is he going to say when Parcells is there? Vinny sucked balls and all I learned from him was how to prepare diligently and work hard, and when it comes to game-time, launch interception after interception...

More interesting observations. Do you have any more liars to finger, Senator McCarthy?
 
khiladi;2107995 said:
Of course he is... WHat is he going to say when Parcells is there? Vinny sucked balls and all I learned from him was how to prepare diligently and work hard, and when it comes to game-time, launch interception after interception... People say things plenty... But you be damn well sure that Tony Romo, while he may have been patient, wasn't all too happy he was riding the pine for 4 years...


wow you dont pay attention very well.

This whole thread is a giant misunderstanding. What owens was talking about when he said parcells was out of touch was that He is a really big hall & oates fan.
 
superpunk;2107997 said:
More interesting observations. Do you have any more liars to finger, Senator McCarthy?


There has to be a better way to phrase that!
 
superpunk;2107997 said:
More interesting observations. Do you have any more liars to finger, Senator McCarthy?

Keep the ad hominems coming... How do you explain Drew Bledsoe? Oh yeah, you can't... What is your next lame quip?
 
theebs;2108000 said:
There has to be a better way to phrase that!

We've extended open season on knuckle-dragging bashing to indefinite...

khiladi;2108002 said:
Keep the ad hominems coming... How do you explain Drew Bledsoe? Oh yeah, you can't... What is your next lame quip?

Do you honestly see any reason for me to respond to this idiocy? If someone supports my position, he is a liar. Or he is just covering for someone.

Please.

I've got better things to waste my time on.
 
superpunk;2108019 said:
We've extended open season on knuckle-dragging bashing to indefinite...



Do you honestly see any reason for me to respond to this idiocy? If someone supports my position, he is a liar. Or he is just covering for someone.

Please.

I've got better things to waste my time on.

More ad hominems... Now it's 'knuckle-dragging'? What wit...

People B.S. all the time given a particular context.

Does it take 4 years to learn how to lift weights and prepare diligently? How do you explain Drew Bledsoe? What did Parcells think Bledsoe could teach Romo?

How do explain the look of death on Parcells face by half-time the very first game Romo started?
 
khiladi;2108028 said:
How do you explain Drew Bledsoe? Does it take 4 years to learn how to lift weights and prepare diligently?

There is nothing to explain. Romo wasn't ready. He acknowledged that bluntly. (although I'm sure he was just lying) If you read back you guys were harping on how stupid it was to bring in Testaverde. I submitted that Testaverde was not brought in just as an outstanding talent - he was brought in to teach the young guys to work. Bill Parcells and Tony Romo (liar) agree with that idea. You don't. And now you've gone on some irrelevant Drew Bledsoe tangent, stomping your feet about it in a manner I've no inclination to indulge. Drew Bledsoe has nothing to do with what we were discussing.
 
superpunk;2108041 said:
There is nothing to explain. Romo wasn't ready. He acknowledged that bluntly. (although I'm sure he was just lying) If you read back you guys were harping on how stupid it was to bring in Testaverde. I submitted that Testaverde was not brought in just as an outstanding talent - he was brought in to teach the young guys to work. Bill Parcells and Tony Romo (liar) agree with that idea. You don't. And now you've gone on some irrelevant Drew Bledsoe tangent, stomping your feet about it in a manner I've no inclination to indulge. Drew Bledsoe has nothing to do with what we were discussing.

DB has nothing to do with what we were discussing? Are you freakin' kidding me... Your whole argument is ultimately rooted in BP making QB decisions to develop Romo through VT. Then how do you explain Drew Bledsoe who was a guy of Parcells, just like VT was his guy? What was DB brought in for to teach Romo? COnsidering BP offensive scheme is predicated on simplicity, does it really take 4 years to learn? How do you explain Bill Parcells still playing DB despite him clearly sucking eggs?

Which QB in the world had a 4 year development program to learn from the likes of VT and DB? Does it take 4 years to learn how to work hard and prepare diligently for a game? What happened when VT left the 2002 season and Chad Pennington was forced into starting for the Jets in his third season after VT went down? Oh yeah, they went from 1-4 to 9-7.

Vinny Testaverde was brought in because he was BPs guy plain and simple, just like Drew Bledsoe was brought in. BP brings in who he believes are his guys. That is his whole story. Of course BP is going to feed us the typical BS, because he knew that Jerry Jones number one priority was developing a young quarterback to replace AIkman. The guy left Dallas abruptly and without class, which reveals that he had no faith in what he left.

And I know you like to dramatize with the whole Tony Romo is a liar angle because that is all you got, but we all know he was being politically correct. Again, what is he going to say?

"Bill Parcells was flat-out wrong in making me ride the pine for 4 years, while Vinny Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe kept throwing interceptions and standing there like statues? I mean seriously, did you say how bad they played? What the crap was my coach thinking?"

Which QB in their right mind thinks they need 4 years of preparation to start in the NFL? Countless QBs were thrown in the fire in their first 2 years and succeeded. You know why? Because they were talented, just like Tony Romo.

And yeah, considering BP has stated many times he doesn't want to coach, and then ends up coaching after leaving his previous organizations rather classlessly, yeah I think we can see he isn't really a man of his word. And I love how he is letting TS coach and make decisions as it relates to practice..
 
PARCELLS SOUNDS OFF: The coach on his new QB

"He doesn't allow Tony any satisfaction," Dallas tight end Jason Witten says of Parcells' needling of Romo. "He doesn't give him any room to breathe as far as, 'You are doing a good job.' I think Tony appreciates that, because everybody on the outside allows him to get this big head. Bill's just here to humble him, and he does a good job of it."

Tuesday, Parcells had a postpractice task for his 26-year-old quarterback.

"I told him to Google up the name of a guy whose star burned real brightly for a short time in this league," says Parcells, declining to specify the flash in the pan. "I give him a homework assignment, then he has to come back and tell me about the guy, who it was, what happened."

Given that Parcells proudly describes himself as a Neanderthal, Romo says his reaction was, "You've worked on a computer before?"

"Me and him have got a really good relationship," says Romo, adding the needling "happens so many times, it's like water on the back of a duck. It just rolls off. It happens weekly."

And for four years while Parcells groomed Romo. The quarterback remembers one of the early barbs, when Parcells likened him to a ball in high grass.

"He waits for you to say, 'What's that mean?' " Romo says. Then, doing a Parcells imitation, Romo shouts, " 'Lost!' "

But despite all his staged grumpiness, Parcells clearly is in sync with his new quarterback. He likes that Romo is an avid student of football history and has in his locker a copy of Tom Callahan's book on Johnny Unitas, Johnny U: The Life and Times of John Unitas.

At home, Romo is reading David Maraniss' When Pride Still Mattered: A Life of Vince Lombardi. Parcells was particularly happy this week when Romo asked him about a coach he had never heard of, Lombardi's early mentor on the Army coaching staff, Red Blaik.

"That's one thing I like about Tony. He wants to know about his predecessors," Parcells says. "A lot of good players that I have had have exhibited that characteristic."

Gawd, sounds like Tony just hated playing for mean old Parcells. Man, Tony's a really good liar. He'll even go read books and ask you questions about old coaches in his free time just to make you believe that he likes you.
 
InmanRoshi;2108146 said:
Gawd, sounds like Tony just hated playing for mean old Parcells. Man, Tony's a really good liar. He'll even go read books and ask you questions about old coaches in his free time just to make you believe that he likes you.

Again, what is he suppose to say?

"Bill Parcells was flat-out wrong in making me ride the pine for 4 years, while Vinny Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe kept throwing interceptions and standing there like statues? I mean seriously, did you say how bad they played? What the crap was my coach thinking?"

WHo was the caoch of the Dallas Cowboys when Tony Romo made these comments? Have you ever heard of a new starting QB calling out his coach?

At home, Romo is reading David Maraniss' When Pride Still Mattered: A Life of Vince Lombardi. Parcells was particularly happy this week when Romo asked him about a coach he had never heard of, Lombardi's early mentor on the Army coaching staff, Red Blaik.


Says more about Tony Romo then it does about BP, doesn't it? Do you think BP was noticing these things about the second-string QB while the first team was practicing with Drew Bledsoe?
 

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