Bill Parcells on Preseason games

[mmohican29]

how about I tell you right now you have no concept of what the team looked like when Parcells took over and what he had to rebuild and put talent back on the field again he didn't finish what he started but he brought this franchise back on the right path and if he just stayed here he would have done a lot better.. So again I'm telling you you're 150% wrong and your opinion it's not just trash it's absolutely not even close to the truth we all know the facts we were here during all those bad years and all that terrible drafts and the terrible talent we had here he literally put us back on the right track with enough talent to move forward he left us with Tony Romo and enough players in a direction IE a new blueprint that we can actually move forward from then..

Look I don't even like bill Parcells.. I think he quit and he's from New York and he was a giants guy so I don't like him but what he did here is underrated not overrated I don't think people understand and you obviously are so far delusional that you have no memory of how bad this team really was with no talent the drafts were bad the free agents were being overpaid and over compensated with draft picks they literally had this in the dumpster and he got us out of the dumpster may not have been great from your view but those of us who remember know what he did...

You could tell me "I have no concept of what the team looked like before BP's arrival", and you'd be wrong.

The team did get better. So what? It literally could not get worse. But if you want to sit here and wax poetic about Parcells and his glory days in Dallas, I'm out.

In the end the results were not even close to the expectations he was to deliver. Somehow he gets a pass?

Because he drafted Witten and discovered Romo? Or was it the Terry Glenn signing? He was good here right? Ware got drafted?

We went from a team of consistent failure to being respectable. That is all.

That is not a superlative coaching job, nor was it what he was hired to deliver. Not even close.

 

[gtb1943]

Possibly. I'd argue he would quit to save face from potentially falling short.

Personally, I think your posts are toilet paper.

 

[gtb1943]

You could tell me "I have no concept of what the team looked like before BP's arrival", and you'd be wrong.

The team did get better. So what? It literally could not get worse. But if you want to sit here and wax poetic about Parcells and his glory days in Dallas, I'm out.

In the end the results were not even close to the expectations he was to deliver. Somehow he gets a pass?

Because he drafted Witten and discovered Romo? Or was it the Terry Glenn signing? He was good here right? Ware got drafted?

We went from a team of consistent failure to being respectable. That is all.

That is not a superlative coaching job, nor was it what he was hired to deliver. Not even close.

Clearly you DO HAVE NO COMPREHENSION of the situation here in 2002.
Not just the team but the entire ORGANIZATION. BP had to basically rebuild everything from the ground up. But since you OBVIOUSLY do not care about the facts....

 

[plasticman]

Parcels would take a new young RB and run him into the ground just to see how he would act.

I mean, he would give him 5 or 6 straight carries or, if 3rd and long, he would pass to get a first down. If successful, he would go right back to the RB for consecutive runs

Parcels would assign his top pick in the draft the task of bringing him something to drink during practices when he was thirsty.

In 2004 that top pick was 2nd rounder RB Julius Jones who had only 5 carries in his first 9 games. parcels then started him for the rest of the season and he carried the ball 93 times in his first three games.

When Julius Jones gained 198 yards on 30 carries and 3 TD's in his 3rd start, it was Parcells who fetched a drink for Julius.

Parcells knew what to do with a RB and one of his disciples was Bill Belichick.

 

[blueblood70]

You could tell me "I have no concept of what the team looked like before BP's arrival", and you'd be wrong.

The team did get better. So what? It literally could not get worse. But if you want to sit here and wax poetic about Parcells and his glory days in Dallas, I'm out.

In the end the results were not even close to the expectations he was to deliver. Somehow he gets a pass?

Because he drafted Witten and discovered Romo? Or was it the Terry Glenn signing? He was good here right? Ware got drafted?

We went from a team of consistent failure to being respectable. That is all.

That is not a superlative coaching job, nor was it what he was hired to deliver. Not even close.

There were so many great players left on this team I couldn't even list them all without getting tired head from talking to you that's why you're going on my ignore list.. It was DeMarcus Ware Spears Romo Witten, Barber, plus many others I mean there's too many to list he literally flipped this team from garbage to at least on the right track that's hard to do he dug us out of a terrible situation he was not here long enoughtoo bear fruit but he left some great players that's what matters he left us better than he found us...

How many do you need anymore proof look at how they played the preceding three seasons I mean they went thirteen and three the very next year after he left that's because he left the team way more stocked with talent than when he got here.

Those were his players much like everyone says that the wins after Jimmy Johnson left were not switchers because they used his teams to win those games it's the same thing look at those three years 13 and three the very next year after he left there's a reason why they were right on the edge and I imagine if he stayed they would have won even more games in the playoffs but he quit and I hate him for quitting and hate him for losing out on Sean Payton so yes I don't like the guy but I'm willing to give him credit because it's obvious.

So what I can't speak to someone that's totally clueless has no football IQ and just wants to hate one guy and you've made bill Parcells a target I don't even like the guy and I'm telling you he's a lot better than what you're making him out to be and I'm sorry I'm going to have to put you on debate because I can't argue with minions.. It's like having a conversation with a 5 year old

 

[kskboys]

I remember an interview I watched with Bill Parcells after he left the Jets and before he took over the Cowboys. I think he was doing the ESPN pregame show.

When the discussion got around to Pre-Season games Bill said that Fans and Sports Media have no idea what they are watching.

Each Team has different goals and ideas about how to handle individual personnel or their teams as a whole.

He said although, he always wanted his team to score more than the opponent, he would often put players and the team at big disadvantage on purpose to find out
if they could overcome. He also wanted to find out who would keep giving effort even when they knew they weren't getting a fair shake. Preseason is the perfect time to see how your players handle adversity.

He also said, when evaluating young players, Tom Landry told him his first year as the Giants Head Coach that you have to give players 3 years before giving up on their potential.

Yup.

W/ the slightest bit of thinking, this is actually blatantly obvious. It shocks me daily during the preseason how many fans just don't understand.

 

[kskboys]

Exactly, coaches put the team and players in certain situations and evaluate. Us fans just don't know, to me preseason is useless watching.

If you're not interested in evaluating, you are correct, you shouldn't watch.

 

[kskboys]

Looks like what they were doing with Mazi - wasn't having a good game AND he was gassed - but they kept him out there.

Yup. I like it. Get his big bum in shape.

When the season starts, Hankins will be playing a ton more, and Mazi should benefit from his playing in Pre.

Gawd, if they can just get him to stop standing up at the snap. He's negating his great strength by losing leverage. Maybe that's why they're trying to teach him? He was very raw coming in. Basically, he could stand up at the snap and still fill the middle in college. Here, though, everyone is strong. So, when he stands up, he loses the battle. That is why we keep seeing him get pushed back at the snap. I do believe it's simply a teaching lesson.

 

[MyFairLady]

IMHO the BP era is the least memorable era in the history of Cowboys football. Without the miracle that was Tony Romo it would have been a compete disaster.

 

[Momanpr100]

If you're not interested in evaluating, you are correct, you shouldn't watch.

Nobody on this forum knows what they are evaluating. I only come for the news and to troll the trolls

 

[gtb1943]

IMHO the BP era is the least memorable era in the history of Cowboys football. Without the miracle that was Tony Romo it would have been a compete disaster.

So his immediate predecessor was better, eh? Tony Campo was better than Bill Parcells. I guess any cred you ever had just disappeared.

 

[MyFairLady]

So his immediate predecessor was better, eh? Tony Campo was better than Bill Parcells. I guess any cred you ever had just disappeared.

Who said better? I said memorable. Never heard of Tony Campo. Dave Campo may have sucked as a head coach but at least he was a big part of something special.

 

[plasticman]

Bill Parcells was the type of HC that could, as Bum Phillips would say, beat your team with his team, trade places with you, and then beat his team with your team.

During his first season the Cowboys wasn't a 10-6 quality team. The Cowboys won at least two games they shouldn't due to savvy coaching.

Despite having some of the best NFL defensive minds for Head Coaches, the Cowboys defense had never been ranked #1 in both categories of preventing scoring and opponent yardage. However, for the 1st and only time in Cowboys history, they were #1 in one category and #2 in the other. That was in 2003, Parcells first season for the Cowboys.

The next season they went 6-10 for a couple of reasons. First, they had to change quartrebacks to 41 year old Vinny Testeverde after cutting Carter due to failing drugs test for marijuana under the old guidelines. Then, their veteran free agent RB, 4 time Pro Bowler Eddie George turned out to have nothing left in the tank. Their rookie RB, Julius Jones was out for an injury until game #9.

Julius Jones ran for over 800 yards in the last seven games but, by then, it was too late, the Cowboys had lost six of their previous seven games.

The following season, the Cowboys had their big defensive draft that gave them Ware, Spears, Canty, Ratliff, Burnett, as well as RB Marion Barber.

 

[lwehlers]

I remember an interview I watched with Bill Parcells after he left the Jets and before he took over the Cowboys. I think he was doing the ESPN pregame show.

When the discussion got around to Pre-Season games Bill said that Fans and Sports Media have no idea what they are watching.

Each Team has different goals and ideas about how to handle individual personnel or their teams as a whole.

He said although, he always wanted his team to score more than the opponent, he would often put players and the team at big disadvantage on purpose to find out
if they could overcome. He also wanted to find out who would keep giving effort even when they knew they weren't getting a fair shake. Preseason is the perfect time to see how your players handle adversity.

He also said, when evaluating young players, Tom Landry told him his first year as the Giants Head Coach that you have to give players 3 years before giving up on their potential.

he is right about everything except giving players three years. in todays nfl if a player is not ready to contribute by his second year a team will draft another player to take his place. the salary cap does not give you a chance to wait on some players to finally get it by the third year.

 

[kskboys]

Nobody on this forum knows what they are evaluating. I only come for the news and to troll the trolls

Yes, they do. You might want to pay more attention. There are many posters who are quite insightful.

 

[mmohican29]

IMHO the BP era is the least memorable era in the history of Cowboys football. Without the miracle that was Tony Romo it would have been a compete disaster.

Amen. These fans that reflect fondly on this era clearly don't recall the multiple embarrassing losses with BP on the sidelines.

John Carney and his blazing speed and elusiveness is still unaccounted for.

 

[gtb1943]

Amen. These fans that reflect fondly on this era clearly don't recall the multiple embarrassing losses with BP on the sidelines.

John Carney and his blazing speed and elusiveness is still unaccounted for.

congratulations.

dumbest post of the day

 

[CCBoy]

Think that Bill Parcells just didn't get the message that Jerry Jones was nothing more than the kiss of death?

 

[Big_D]

Amen. These fans that reflect fondly on this era clearly don't recall the multiple embarrassing losses with BP on the sidelines.

John Carney and his blazing speed and elusiveness is still unaccounted for.

They were bottom feeders before he got here and a playoff team when he left. You might not actually remember how terrible Jerry was before and after Parcells' time here.