Bill Parcells was right

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When will this team learn from someone who set out the blueprint on how to build a Championship calibre team. On DEF, particularly come December you have to be able to stop the run. To do this you need a physicality amongst your DEF. Bigger and nastier is better. The smaller, faster alternative is broken , it doesn't last for a whole season.

First rule, you have to be able to stop the run and run the ball. If you can't do that the rest is irrelevant.

We need coaches and ownership to understand this basic philosophy. Bill Parcells taught us this and he was right.
 

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When will this team learn from someone who set out the blueprint on how to build a Championship calibre team. On DEF, particularly come December you have to be able to stop the run. To do this you need a physicality amongst your DEF. Bigger and nastier is better. The smaller, faster alternative is broken , it doesn't last for a whole season.

First rule, you have to be able to stop the run and run the ball. If you can't do that the rest is irrelevant.

We need coaches and ownership to understand this basic philosophy. Bill Parcells taught us this and he was right.
Well we drafted Mazi, pick just didn’t pan out yet.
 

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When will this team learn from someone who set out the blueprint on how to build a Championship calibre team. On DEF, particularly come December you have to be able to stop the run. To do this you need a physicality amongst your DEF. Bigger and nastier is better. The smaller, faster alternative is broken , it doesn't last for a whole season.

First rule, you have to be able to stop the run and run the ball. If you can't do that the rest is irrelevant.

We need coaches and ownership to understand this basic philosophy. Bill Parcells taught us this and he was right.
Look man in most cases I agree what you're talking about a played out way old theory from the 80s and 90s I thought this was a passing league I thought defenses were built the way Dan Quinn built them because people throw the ball a lot more on 1st downs than they used to run they throw the ball even on 4th and one so teams have built defenses to be quicker and smaller and play nickel and dime and that is what most teams have done and it seems that there's now a flow to go the other way because defenses got a head of offenses and now offenses have seen there's a weakness and now they're running the ball more.... But the act like we need a bruising defense like bill Parcells in the 90s Cowboys had when it doesn't work for 17 games is apparently the Cowboys are winning twelve games every year with that kind of defense and being able to adjust is a difficult thing if you're set up to stop a passing league and then you expect them to be able to on a dime switch back to stopping the run on a regular basis when what are we saying about this era it is a pass happy league right?

Yes the defense is the biggest problem I said it all week I said it before the Eagles game I've said it since week one you started looking at this defense getting walked down the field on a regular basis and no it's not just on the ground in this particular game it happened to be on the ground but if you watch the Eagles game without the turnovers without pulling that ball out those were big plays those were successfully designed and executed plays that the player made a mistake at the end and let the ball get ripped out but this has been happening all year this is on Dan Quinn he needs to adjust and I'm sorry but you can't just draft a whole entire defense to stop the run and a passing lead we just need to stop the run better but in this game we're on the road had a sick team outdoors in the rain missing hankins and a whole bunch of dudes early going out with injuries I think we do need in the draft to get more help especially at linebacker I think that's the bigger problem by the way if you watch the game I think they showed a graph where they ran all over to the outsides off tackle sweeps it wasn't just straight up the middle all game it literally we were not physical enough especially at linebacker and we knew this when LE went out we didn't realize just how much we need a guy like him but we need a big middle linebacker not just any linebacker that can also be very athletic we need a guy who can run downhill and be physical but also be able to cover you know like the 49ers..
 

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Look man in most cases I agree what you're talking about a played out way old theory from the 80s and 90s I thought this was a passing league I thought defenses were built the way Dan Quinn built them because people throw the ball a lot more on 1st downs than they used to run they throw the ball even on 4th and one so teams have built defenses to be quicker and smaller and play nickel and dime and that is what most teams have done and it seems that there's now a flow to go the other way because defenses got a head of offenses and now offenses have seen there's a weakness and now they're running the ball more.... But the act like we need a bruising defense like bill Parcells in the 90s Cowboys had when it doesn't work for 17 games is apparently the Cowboys are winning twelve games every year with that kind of defense and being able to adjust is a difficult thing if you're set up to stop a passing league and then you expect them to be able to on a dime switch back to stopping the run on a regular basis when what are we saying about this era it is a pass happy league right?

Yes the defense is the biggest problem I said it all week I said it before the Eagles game I've said it since week one you started looking at this defense getting walked down the field on a regular basis and no it's not just on the ground in this particular game it happened to be on the ground but if you watch the Eagles game without the turnovers without pulling that ball out those were big plays those were successfully designed and executed plays that the player made a mistake at the end and let the ball get ripped out but this has been happening all year this is on Dan Quinn he needs to adjust and I'm sorry but you can't just draft a whole entire defense to stop the run and a passing lead we just need to stop the run better but in this game we're on the road had a sick team outdoors in the rain missing hankins and a whole bunch of dudes early going out with injuries I think we do need in the draft to get more help especially at linebacker I think that's the bigger problem by the way if you watch the game I think they showed a graph where they ran all over to the outsides off tackle sweeps it wasn't just straight up the middle all game it literally we were not physical enough especially at linebacker and we knew this when LE went out we didn't realize just how much we need a guy like him but we need a big middle linebacker not just any linebacker that can also be very athletic we need a guy who can run downhill and be physical but also be able to cover you know like the 49ers..
Two starting linebackers are currently on IR...a large difference there.
 

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When will this team learn from someone who set out the blueprint on how to build a Championship calibre team. On DEF, particularly come December you have to be able to stop the run. To do this you need a physicality amongst your DEF. Bigger and nastier is better. The smaller, faster alternative is broken , it doesn't last for a whole season.

First rule, you have to be able to stop the run and run the ball. If you can't do that the rest is irrelevant.

We need coaches and ownership to understand this basic philosophy. Bill Parcells taught us this and he was right.
They traded for Hanskins and drafted Mazi. They know what they need to do. Problem is there are certain players not doing their job and it’s resulting in bar play.
 

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Nope.

Good NFL defenses are built to play with the lead. If you have to stop the run, it means your offense isn't clicking and you're not going to win anyway.
 

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They traded for Hanskins and drafted Mazi. They know what they need to do. Problem is there are certain players not doing their job and it’s resulting in bar play.
These players don't matter! Run-stuffing DTs don't matter. I don't know how many times a game like last night has to happen for this board to realize it.

The Bills were just running traps and capturing the edges all night. Dallas doesn't a) have LBers who have good enough eyes to get to the POA or b) edges who can consistently set and turn things inside.

People act like they're running 21 dive.
 

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These players don't matter! Run-stuffing DTs don't matter. I don't know how many times a game like last night has to happen for this board to realize it.

The Bills were just running traps and capturing the edges all night. Dallas doesn't a) have LBers who have good enough eyes to get to the POA or b) edges who can consistently set and turn things inside.

People act like they're running 21 dive.
I just think they aren’t doing what they are suppose to do. They couldn’t set contain on the edges to save their life….none of these guys draft profile say they suck against the run….just need to do their jobs and that starts with Quinn realizing they are not afraid to run at Micah.
 

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I just think they aren’t doing what they are suppose to do. They couldn’t set contain on the edges to save their life….none of these guys draft profile say they suck against the run….just need to do their jobs and that starts with Quinn realizing they are not afraid to run at Micah.
Yes but not setting edges doesn't have anything to do with the DTs.
 

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Two starting linebackers are currently on IR...a large difference there.
I'm not sure what you're talking about.. I know LVE is on IR, who's the other guy? I don't know any other starters that are actual linebackers that are on IR... Yes, I realize that we have linebackers missing and then Hankins missing and then you get Parson's knee ran into , hes goes out, you had like I don't know getting Kearse go out it was just one of those games but up the middle yeah that wasn't the only place we were weak though, they literally couldn't tackle taking bad angles also we had hooker out and Bell was bad this game diving at feet for tackles vs form tackling.


so yeah, so far I guess this game we had missing on D
Hooker
Hankins

Kearse went out at some point or was it Wilson or both?

Parson hit early.
many others with the flu

Martin goes out.

Out for the year,

Diggs
LVE

on the road in the rain with the "flu game" just snowballed seemed like at 8mins in i knew it was all but over..
 

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Look man in most cases I agree what you're talking about a played out way old theory from the 80s and 90s I thought this was a passing league I thought defenses were built the way Dan Quinn built them because people throw the ball a lot more on 1st downs than they used to run they throw the ball even on 4th and one so teams have built defenses to be quicker and smaller and play nickel and dime and that is what most teams have done and it seems that there's now a flow to go the other way because defenses got a head of offenses and now offenses have seen there's a weakness and now they're running the ball more.... But the act like we need a bruising defense like bill Parcells in the 90s Cowboys had when it doesn't work for 17 games is apparently the Cowboys are winning twelve games every year with that kind of defense and being able to adjust is a difficult thing if you're set up to stop a passing league and then you expect them to be able to on a dime switch back to stopping the run on a regular basis when what are we saying about this era it is a pass happy league right?

Yes the defense is the biggest problem I said it all week I said it before the Eagles game I've said it since week one you started looking at this defense getting walked down the field on a regular basis and no it's not just on the ground in this particular game it happened to be on the ground but if you watch the Eagles game without the turnovers without pulling that ball out those were big plays those were successfully designed and executed plays that the player made a mistake at the end and let the ball get ripped out but this has been happening all year this is on Dan Quinn he needs to adjust and I'm sorry but you can't just draft a whole entire defense to stop the run and a passing lead we just need to stop the run better but in this game we're on the road had a sick team outdoors in the rain missing hankins and a whole bunch of dudes early going out with injuries I think we do need in the draft to get more help especially at linebacker I think that's the bigger problem by the way if you watch the game I think they showed a graph where they ran all over to the outsides off tackle sweeps it wasn't just straight up the middle all game it literally we were not physical enough especially at linebacker and we knew this when LE went out we didn't realize just how much we need a guy like him but we need a big middle linebacker not just any linebacker that can also be very athletic we need a guy who can run downhill and be physical but also be able to cover you know like the 49ers..
We are a long way from San Fran. Our team is a Jack Rabbit and not a Pit Bull.
 

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Look man in most cases I agree what you're talking about a played out way old theory from the 80s and 90s I thought this was a passing league I thought defenses were built the way Dan Quinn built them because people throw the ball a lot more on 1st downs than they used to run they throw the ball even on 4th and one so teams have built defenses to be quicker and smaller and play nickel and dime and that is what most teams have done and it seems that there's now a flow to go the other way because defenses got a head of offenses and now offenses have seen there's a weakness and now they're running the ball more.... But the act like we need a bruising defense like bill Parcells in the 90s Cowboys had when it doesn't work for 17 games is apparently the Cowboys are winning twelve games every year with that kind of defense and being able to adjust is a difficult thing if you're set up to stop a passing league and then you expect them to be able to on a dime switch back to stopping the run on a regular basis when what are we saying about this era it is a pass happy league right?

Yes the defense is the biggest problem I said it all week I said it before the Eagles game I've said it since week one you started looking at this defense getting walked down the field on a regular basis and no it's not just on the ground in this particular game it happened to be on the ground but if you watch the Eagles game without the turnovers without pulling that ball out those were big plays those were successfully designed and executed plays that the player made a mistake at the end and let the ball get ripped out but this has been happening all year this is on Dan Quinn he needs to adjust and I'm sorry but you can't just draft a whole entire defense to stop the run and a passing lead we just need to stop the run better but in this game we're on the road had a sick team outdoors in the rain missing hankins and a whole bunch of dudes early going out with injuries I think we do need in the draft to get more help especially at linebacker I think that's the bigger problem by the way if you watch the game I think they showed a graph where they ran all over to the outsides off tackle sweeps it wasn't just straight up the middle all game it literally we were not physical enough especially at linebacker and we knew this when LE went out we didn't realize just how much we need a guy like him but we need a big middle linebacker not just any linebacker that can also be very athletic we need a guy who can run downhill and be physical but also be able to cover you know like the 49ers..
Nope.

Good NFL defenses are built to play with the lead. If you have to stop the run, it means your offense isn't clicking and you're not going to win anyway.
Come December your team is either injury stricken, banged up or worn down. If you play against teams with a good offensive line that can run the ball you are very vulnerable. Last night's game was similar to the Rams play-off game. When the opposition takes the first possession and starts to build a lead you can quickly fall into trouble. December/January football is not the same as Weeks 1-14
 
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