Bill Parcells was right

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Come December your team is either injury stricken, banged up or worn down. If you play against teams with a good offensive line that can run the ball you are very vulnerable. Last night's game was similar to the Rams play-off game. When the opposition takes the first possession and starts to build a lead you can quickly fall into trouble. December/January football is not the same as Weeks 1-14
Yes it is. And the Bills aren't a team with a good running game anyway.

Dallas did what they wanted to do in taking away the passing game - if the first quarter goes differently they run away with it.
 

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Come December your team is either injury stricken, banged up or worn down. If you play against teams with a good offensive line that can run the ball you are very vulnerable. Last night's game was similar to the Rams play-off game. When the opposition takes the first possession and starts to build a lead you can quickly fall into trouble. December/January football is not the same as Weeks 1-14
there's not a lot you can do about it that's what I'm saying you can't build a team to stop the run in this day and age and expect to be healthy I mean you're bringing up bill Parcells you're wrong he's not right he was right at the time there's a reason that bill Parcells and Jimmy Johnson and dinosaurs like him are no longer coaches yes those kinds of games like yesterday happen... But it's not like you can build a team to play 17 games in one way and then flip a switch and make it better we have a salary cap roster limits and you just can't replace everyone as they get injured and anybody that's backups are gonna be worse than the starters is the drop off there aren't many teams that are so deep they can handle this...

Right now we're struggling to run the ball our offensive line is getting beat by a four man defensive line they're playing zone this is the exact thing that the Cowboys struggle with on offense and it is up front both sides of the football in that way bill Parcells is correct you need to be able to play better in the trenches but you can't build a team to stop a run game like we saw yesterday because that is not how it works out over 17 games we are in a RPOs ,a pass happy type quick passes to the sidelines you need to have a defense that can do that over 17 games and occasionally teams have gotten smart they literally see that these defenses are small now and if they could just throw out a wrinkle occasionally it'll work...

My opinion it's our linebackers are more of a problem then the defensive line they were getting beat on the edges off tackle wide all game it wasn't just up the middle so yeah injuries have caught up with us it wasn't just hankins we're missing Trayvon diggs yesterday also hooker, wilson went out, lves been gone.. It was also a flu game bunch of dudes just fighting to win the last two games against the Seahawks and the Eagles burned a lot of energy then they have to go on the road in the rain a bunch of guys with the flu and a bunch of them out hurt Parsons get dinged early look man this is that kind of game we're just gonna have to throw it away and hope when the playoffs come they have a plan...
 

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Buffalo had no intention of passing the ball.
They lined up in shotgun a bunch had basically a 50/50 pass/run split on their first two scoring drives.

On the first drive, the big plays were the throw to Diggs (18 yards) and the roughing the passer. The second TD drive was 86 yards. They got 15 on penalty and 42 through the air. I'm not a mathemetician, but that doesn't meet the standard of "no intention of throwing the ball."

People on this board just make stuff up.
 

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Buffalo had no intention of passing the ball.
Yeah but see that's the new offensive coordinator and I don't think anybody saw this coming because there's a new dude calling plays and this didn't come at it nowhere but it definitely caught people off guard and the more they show it doesn't mean this is going to work for them all year not going to work for them and every game when teams seen now what they were going to try to do it worked for one game against the team that had to travel to their home in the rain outdoors with a bunch of guys with the flu, missing some key players not just to start the game but as the game went on it just snowballed so you can keep pushing this and I get it we need to be better in the trenches that is a fact but this doesn't mean this changes our playoff hopes any in my opinion this is one game it's a week to weekly it's also a copycat league and they're going to see this and we're going to have to stop it...

but I think the Cowboys know this and I hope somehow someway they have a plan I don't think you can bring in a dude off the street or two somehow do you really think those dudes sitting for 14 weeks can bring anything to this defense I mean we're talking about endowment can suh and there might be somebody else???

I mean at this point relying on hankins as the key umm hmm

but really again it was all over the field it was the safeties, the linebackers ,nobody was tackling this looked just like the Arizona game except for a better team and you add in again all the injuries both before the game and during the game and the sickness,

people think this is an excuse but it's kind of hard to maintain the level of energy the Cowboys have had the last five weeks that even includes the loss in Philadelphia they played their azzes off & now they hit a speed bump but the car is not totaled it just needs some adjustments and alignment and i think we're going to be fine....
 

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And this is the frustration between many fans and this team. Our DCs keep putting these light in the pants , finesse teams on the field that’s not going to hold up in the playoffs. The best teams usually have dominant lines. Nobody is running for 179 yards on KC or SF in January.
 

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Come December your team is either injury stricken, banged up or worn down. If you play against teams with a good offensive line that can run the ball you are very vulnerable. Last night's game was similar to the Rams play-off game. When the opposition takes the first possession and starts to build a lead you can quickly fall into trouble. December/January football is not the same as Weeks 1-14
as bad as that game felt and it's fresh on my memory 2018 I went to actually boomer jacks with my jersey on supporting my team that was really a bad second quarter we lost by eight points there was nowhere near the same game this one we lost 31 to 10 and it wasn't even that close 8 minutes in it felt like it was over that was not the Rams the Rams game I get your point that was an 8 point loss as bad as that felt it was a bad second quarter adjustments were made we just never could get any momentum to overcome that last eight points but we stayed in that game all the way to the very end so it's not the same to me this is more what it felt like in the Arizona game we're missing a few players to start the game 3 Pro Bowl offensive lineman and we just lost Trayvon diggs it was on the road a mobile quarterback and a strong running back they got us this is the blueprint but not every team can do this..
 

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They lined up in shotgun a bunch had basically a 50/50 pass/run split on their first two scoring drives.

On the first drive, the big plays were the throw to Diggs (18 yards) and the roughing the passer. The second TD drive was 86 yards. They got 15 on penalty and 42 through the air. I'm not a mathemetician, but that doesn't meet the standard of "no intention of throwing the ball."

People on this board just make stuff up.
Agreed. The first half would have been a lot closer maybe even tied if the Cowboys did not give the Bills so much in penalties. And they may have scored themselves if not for the holding call on Tyler Smith to negate a 1st down run by Pollard. Zack Martin's penalty hurt too. If not for that penalty the Cowboys would have had the ball on the Buffalo 43 yard line and a 1st down. They were just a few yards from FG range.

But the Bills first drive in the 2nd half was embarrassing for Dallas. The Bills were running the ball every play and Dallas could not stop them. The just ran the ball down their throats on that drive after half time and the Cowboys had no answer. It wasn't just Cook, all their other RB averaged 6 yards per carry too.
 

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Agreed. The first half would have been a lot closer maybe even tied if the Cowboys did not give the Bills so much in penalties. And they may have scored themselves if not for the holding call on Tyler Smith to negate a 1st down run by Pollard. Zack Martin's penalty hurt too. If not for that penalty the Cowboys would have had the ball on the Buffalo 43 yard line and a 1st down. They were just a few yards from FG range.

But the Bills first drive in the 2nd half was embarrassing for Dallas. The Bills were running the ball every play and Dallas could not stop them. The just ran the ball down their throats on that drive after half time and the Cowboys had no answer. It wasn't just Cook, all their other RB averaged 6 yards per carry too.
The game is different if it's 7-3 Dallas after the first drive.

Game was over at that point it didn't matter.
 

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They lined up in shotgun a bunch had basically a 50/50 pass/run split on their first two scoring drives.

On the first drive, the big plays were the throw to Diggs (18 yards) and the roughing the passer. The second TD drive was 86 yards. They got 15 on penalty and 42 through the air. I'm not a mathemetician, but that doesn't meet the standard of "no intention of throwing the ball."

People on this board just make stuff up.
It was clear either before the game or very early on (and they changed their game plan) that they were not interested in passing the ball.

15/49 passing/rushing split
 

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It was clear either before the game or very early on (and they changed their game plan) that they were not interested in passing the ball.

15/49 passing/rushing split
After they were winning by 2 scores. The game split is irrelevant.
 

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I'm not sure what you're talking about.. I know LVE is on IR, who's the other guy? I don't know any other starters that are actual linebackers that are on IR... Yes, I realize that we have linebackers missing and then Hankins missing and then you get Parson's knee ran into , hes goes out, you had like I don't know getting Kearse go out it was just one of those games but up the middle yeah that wasn't the only place we were weak though, they literally couldn't tackle taking bad angles also we had hooker out and Bell was bad this game diving at feet for tackles vs form tackling.


so yeah, so far I guess this game we had missing on D
Hooker
Hankins

Kearse went out at some point or was it Wilson or both?

Parson hit early.
many others with the flu

Martin goes out.

Out for the year,

Diggs
LVE

on the road in the rain with the "flu game" just snowballed seemed like at 8mins in i knew it was all but over..
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Leighton Vander Esch

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Add in missing, Johnathan Hankins, the biggest defensive line piece just for that purpose...so there has to be better preparations to free up Parsons, to be specific. Everyone who blocks him grabs his jersey or he is just double teamed continuously.

Game planning to take out a single WR was weak at best. The game plan had three people to game plan and take off the table: Cooks - Led by James Cook, who posted career highs in rushing yards (179), yards from scrimmage (221) and touchdowns (2), the Bills churned out 266 yards on the ground. That led to them ruling the time of possession, 35:05 to 24:55, while totaling 351 yards of offense.

Facing heavy pressure throughout the day and a secondary that largely stifled Dallas' receivers, Prescott's hot streak came to a cold end. He completed 21 of his 34 attempts for only 134 yards passing with one interception, a meager quarterback rating of 57.7. Consequently, the NFL's best offense coming into the weekend had only 92 total yards through three quarters and was held to a 195 yards overall.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/game-recap-cowboys-fall-in-buffalo-31-10
 

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When will this team learn from someone who set out the blueprint on how to build a Championship calibre team. On DEF, particularly come December you have to be able to stop the run. To do this you need a physicality amongst your DEF. Bigger and nastier is better. The smaller, faster alternative is broken , it doesn't last for a whole season.

First rule, you have to be able to stop the run and run the ball. If you can't do that the rest is irrelevant.

We need coaches and ownership to understand this basic philosophy. Bill Parcells taught us this and he was right.

The Niners sure gets it.
 

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It was clear either before the game or very early on (and they changed their game plan) that they were not interested in passing the ball.

15/49 passing/rushing split
7 whole completions outta that 15 attempts too.
Lol, too funny.
 

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And this is the frustration between many fans and this team. Our DCs keep putting these light in the pants , finesse teams on the field that’s not going to hold up in the playoffs. The best teams usually have dominant lines. Nobody is running for 179 yards on KC or SF in January.
This is because they play with leads.

Jax ran for 140 and 7 ypc last year lol
 

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DeMarvion Overshown

Leighton Vander Esch

Relevant here and now?


Add in missing, Johnathan Hankins, the biggest defensive line piece just for that purpose...so there has to be better preparations to free up Parsons, to be specific. Everyone who blocks him grabs his jersey or he is just double teamed continuously.

Game planning to take out a single WR was weak at best. The game plan had three people to game plan and take off the table: Cooks - Led by James Cook, who posted career highs in rushing yards (179), yards from scrimmage (221) and touchdowns (2), the Bills churned out 266 yards on the ground. That led to them ruling the time of possession, 35:05 to 24:55, while totaling 351 yards of offense.

Facing heavy pressure throughout the day and a secondary that largely stifled Dallas' receivers, Prescott's hot streak came to a cold end. He completed 21 of his 34 attempts for only 134 yards passing with one interception, a meager quarterback rating of 57.7. Consequently, the NFL's best offense coming into the weekend had only 92 total yards through three quarters and was held to a 195 yards overall.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/game-recap-cowboys-fall-in-buffalo-31-10
first of all overshown is more of a hybrid safety just like bell and curse and if you're counting on that rookie the change things you're really reaching right now he is not missed because we never had him he's just one of the same as what we already have with this hybrid defense the linebackers are too small just to win a game like we saw last night

there's a reason we wanted Leonard and we brought in Evans but as you can tell just with like Philadelphia it's kinda hard once you start having injuries at one position like that to find anybody on the street worth a damn right now Leighton vander ash is the only real middle linebacker that we've lost that was my point you're trying to sell me overshown come on dude I'm a Longhorns fan he's a very good linebacker but he's built more like bell Kerse in Wilson...

It's blatantly obvious what we need to target in the draft I don't know how you find them but we really need a middle linebacker like a Fred Warner type or even you go after a Bobby Wagner type a real downhill guy that can also cover can also get to the edges not someone we're gonna turn into an outside linebacker we need a true middle linebacker that can play if he's there in the first round I'm taking him people think it's offensive line and whatnot no we need to fix our linebackers so they can play in a Dan Quinn defense without having to completely change the philosophy of the defense you just need a guy that has the ability to play in any defense...

That's the problem here we're built small we're built for speed we're built for indoors on turf and when it's time to adjust we already lost LV E and we don't have anybody that does anything special from that linebacker spot
 

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first of all overshown is more of a hybrid safety just like bell and curse and if you're counting on that rookie the change things you're really reaching right now he is not missed because we never had him he's just one of the same as what we already have with this hybrid defense the linebackers are too small just to win a game like we saw last night

there's a reason we wanted Leonard and we brought in Evans but as you can tell just with like Philadelphia it's kinda hard once you start having injuries at one position like that to find anybody on the street worth a damn right now Leighton vander ash is the only real middle linebacker that we've lost that was my point you're trying to sell me overshown come on dude I'm a Longhorns fan he's a very good linebacker but he's built more like bell Kerse in Wilson...

It's blatantly obvious what we need to target in the draft I don't know how you find them but we really need a middle linebacker like a Fred Warner type or even you go after a Bobby Wagner type a real downhill guy that can also cover can also get to the edges not someone we're gonna turn into an outside linebacker we need a true middle linebacker that can play if he's there in the first round I'm taking him people think it's offensive line and whatnot no we need to fix our linebackers so they can play in a Dan Quinn defense without having to completely change the philosophy of the defense you just need a guy that has the ability to play in any defense...

That's the problem here we're built small we're built for speed we're built for indoors on turf and when it's time to adjust we already lost LV E and we don't have anybody that does anything special from that linebacker spot

Agree whereas the Niners are built like our 90’s teams and you would think Jed would never forget those days, they led to you winning your last trophies you have in that case.
 

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Agree whereas the Niners are built like our 90’s teams and you would think Jed would never forget those days, they led to you winning your last trophies you have in that case.
No they're not the Niners are physical but they run a newer style offense with a lot of speed a lot of motion and they can do it anyway but that's cause they're built like that in the trenches but they're not built like a run team where they're not asking anybody to do anything else but play a risk free game that's not the case you guys mistake physicality and being really good in the trenches to somehow they're mirroring the 90s type teams and they're not they're absolutely not they're just a really good team that has a lot of talent there was nobody on the Dallas Cowboys that looked like Christian McCaffrey that wasn't Emmitt Smith Emmitt Smith did it up the middle it was a slower burn up the field and even though Michael Irvin is really good he didn't do a lot of that with all the motion and stuff the Cowboys have a similar offense right now but they're not being able to adjust to the other types of games...
 

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No they're not the Niners are physical but they run a newer style offense with a lot of speed a lot of motion and they can do it anyway but that's cause they're built like that in the trenches but they're not built like a run team where they're not asking anybody to do anything else but play a risk free game that's not the case you guys mistake physicality and being really good in the trenches to somehow they're mirroring the 90s type teams and they're not they're absolutely not they're just a really good team that has a lot of talent there was nobody on the Dallas Cowboys that looked like Christian McCaffrey that wasn't Emmitt Smith Emmitt Smith did it up the middle it was a slower burn up the field and even though Michael Irvin is really good he didn't do a lot of that with all the motion and stuff the Cowboys have a similar offense right now but they're not being able to adjust to the other types of games...

See where you are going but what I am saying, if a team now in today era is built starting from the trenches and working out, surely remember the 90’s like the niners GM. You never start building a team from the outside working inwards. Trenches are your base and foundation. Jimmy sure knew this.
 
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