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Billy Turner | Tackle
Team: North Dakota State Bison
Age / DOB: (22) / 10/17/1991
Ht / Wt: 6'6' / 314

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North Dakota State OL Billy Turner visited the Bucs on Monday, and has upcoming visits scheduled with the Cowboys, Panthers, Rams, Vikings, and Dolphins, reports NFL.com's Gil Brandt.
According to the venerable Brandt, Turner will take in Dallas on April 9 and again on the 15th, Carolina on April 11 and again on the 22nd, St. Louis on April 16, Minnesota on April 17 and Miami on April 23. The Bisons' mauler had reportedly already met with the Cowboys, Bucs, Panthers and Vikings, so those organizations appear to be particularly interested in his services. Apr 7 - 6:26 PM
 

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Three meetings before the draft I would call serious due diligence.
 

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I like him alot. I think he could play OG day one and move to RT in 2015 if needed. Now that Thomas is dropping due to his torn ACl Turner becomes my new #1 OL to draft mid rounds.

I would like to get 2 OL this draft. Billy Turner, Trai Turner, Brandon Thomas, and Kadeem Edwards are my pet cats
 

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Defintely on the Cowboys radar, just a matter of whether they have the stones to take him in the second round, given where some of the other teams are drafting I don't see him getting to them in the third.
 

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Defintely on the Cowboys radar, just a matter of whether they have the stones to take him in the second round, given where some of the other teams are drafting I don't see him getting to them in the third.

He just falls in with how I think the team is going in terms of who and what they want to draft.

Martin, Moses perhaps in the first, then Turner as the fall back. It is clear that they probably are looking to address the OL, specifically tackle.
 

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He just falls in with how I think the team is going in terms of who and what they want to draft.

Martin, Moses perhaps in the first, then Turner as the fall back. It is clear that they probably are looking to address the OL, specifically tackle.

I sure hope not. I'd prefer they draft a starting guard in the 2nd round and a stud DT/DE in the 1st.
 

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Lot of people like this guy. It really does look like we're highly interested in a combo OG/OT, and likely early. The idea is to add depth/competition to start at OG this year, and give us a long-term RT option, so our hand isn't forced with Free after 2014. Really smart plan if you ask me. Sign me up.
 

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The names of the pre-draft visitors to Valley Ranch are starting to trickle in, and Billy Turner is one of them.

Offensive tackle Billy Turner from out-of-the-way North Dakota State is set to meet the Cowboys, not once but twice, according to Gil Brandt:


This is crazy: #NDSU OT Billy Turner w/ #Bucs today, #Cowboys 4/9 + 4/15, #Panthers 4/11 + 4/22, #Rams 4/16, #Vikings 4/17, #Dolphins 4/23

— Gil Brandt (@Gil_Brandt) April 7, 2014


The two visits are most likely a private workout followed by an official pre-draft visit in Dallas as part of the Cowboys' quota of 30 national draft prospects they are allowed to bring in prior to the draft. But this is nothing more than informed speculation on my part, the two dates could be something else entirely.

But keep in mind that the official pre-draft visits in Dallas are nothing more than glorified meet-and-greets. The Cowboys show the players around Valley Ranch, impress them with a visit to AT&T stadium, and have the prospects go through a series of medical tests and interviews. However, these pre-draft visits in Dallas do not involve any workouts. If the Cowboys want to run Turner through some drills, they'd have to do it at a private workout, hence perhaps the second date.

So why am I making such a fuss about the two dates? Because the Cowboys went through the exact same drill with Ronald Leary. Bill Callahan flew to Memphis for a private workout with Leary, and the Cowboys later also brought him in for a pre-draft visit. As it turned out, the Cowboys had a third-round grade on Leary, and that also seems to be where Turner is expected to be drafted.

NFL Draftscout has him projected as a second to third round pick, as does CBSSports. Gil Brandt thinks Turner is "probably a second-day draft pick down near the end of the third round", an assessment that Drafttek also shares.

As you can see from Brandt's tweet above, the Cowboys are not the only team interested in Turner, and that interest in the 6-5, 315-pound offensive lineman has seen Turner steadily climb up draft boards. At the end of August last year, CBSSports had him ranked 536th overall. By the end of September, Turner had climbed to 187th. By the end of January, Turner had moved to 97th on the strength of a Senior Bowl performance that impressed a lot of scouts, one of whom was Bryan Broaddus:


I understand this club has not had a great history of drafting small school offensive linemen, but this player might be different. During the week, he lined up at left tackle, but he also got some work at guard as well.

I believe I would play him at right tackle and let him go to work from that position. The jump in competition did not look too much for him and his play was consistent throughout. He played with nice power in the running game and was able to get some good push off the snap. He showed good quickness, and once engaged, he worked to finish.

He was good on his cut off and reach blocks. His pass sets were good, but there were some reps where he needed to be a little quicker to get to the outside and get set up.

Turner has moved up even further on the CBS board since then, and today sits comfortably at number 76.

Our own rabblerousr made an interesting point about the Cowboys' tackle situation in his "Follow The Money" post yesterday: rabble argued that the Cowboys have shown a tendency to draft younger replacements in advance as they phase out older players on bloated contracts, and one such older player is Doug Free, who is on the last year of his contract. Could the Cowboys be looking at Turner as an option to replace Free in a year's time? That's excatly what this scouting profile from Detroitlionsdraft.com suggests NFL teams should do:


An NFL team who needs an immediate impact could slide [Turner] into a guard position and get solid returns, but Turner’s upside could be maximized by being given a year behind an aging left tackle to develop technically before being slotted into a lineup in 2015. The situation is more important than where exactly he’s drafted, but a second round investment makes sense.

I'm not sure that the Cowboys would invest a second-round pick in a developmental tackle, but Turner definitely is in play for the Cowboys' third rounder. I'll leave the final thoughts to rabble once again:


Unless they are absolutely certain that Jermey Parnell or Darrion Weems is the long-term answer at right tackle (and how could they?), expect the team to draft one in a little over two months - and higher than we'd expect. If they are looking to find a starter by 2015, they'll have to spend a first or second day pick. Thus it should not surprise us to see several offensive tackle candidates come to Dallas for mid-April visits, much like WRs did this time last year.

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looks like robert brewster 2.0 to me. I would pass.

Billy Turner does not look anything like Robert Brewster. Brewster had a sloppy build and had just gotten his weight down from 350+ to 325 for the draft.

Turner looks like a Giant TE.

Other than both being small schools guys, there is no resemblance between the 2 players.
 

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Billy Turner does not look anything like Robert Brewster. Brewster had a sloppy build and had just gotten his weight down from 350+ to 325 for the draft.

Turner looks like a Giant TE.

Other than both being small schools guys, there is no resemblance between the 2 players.

Agreed. I watched 2 videos of Turner yesterday. Dude can move for a guy his size, and what's striking is his nastiness. He really seeks guys out to bury, even if they're not his responsibility. Love his on-field demeanor. Does look a bit inconsistent with his technique and balance, but the physical and mental traits seem very much there for him. That all said, I do think #47 (R2) is a bit high, but if he's available in R3, I'm 100% in.
 

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Agreed. I watched 2 videos of Turner yesterday. Dude can move for a guy his size, and what's striking is his nastiness. He really seeks guys out to bury, even if they're not his responsibility. Love his on-field demeanor. Does look a bit inconsistent with his technique and balance, but the physical and mental traits seem very much there for him. That all said, I do think #47 (R2) is a bit high, but if he's available in R3, I'm 100% in.

Yes, he definitely needs some technique work, but his physical ability and aggressive on-field demeanor are terrific. He looks like he would just keep blocking a defender all the way back to the bus if they didn't blow the whistle.

I've had in mind drafting him with the Cowboys 3rd, but I don't know if he will be available there. If any teams sees him as a LT, he'll probably be a 2nd rounder because the LT options are sketchy after Moses. There are several guys that look like good RTs, but would be iffy as LTs.

I would actually like to play Turner at Guard. I think he would be a terrific Zone Blocking Guard.
 

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Yes, he definitely needs some technique work, but his physical ability and aggressive on-field demeanor are terrific. He looks like he would just keep blocking a defender all the way back to the bus if they didn't blow the whistle.

I've had in mind drafting him with the Cowboys 3rd, but I don't know if he will be available there. If any teams sees him as a LT, he'll probably be a 2nd rounder because the LT options are sketchy after Moses. There are several guys that look like good RTs, but would be iffy as LTs.

I would actually like to play Turner at Guard. I think he would be a terrific Zone Blocking Guard.

100% with you here. I do think teams could look at him as a potential LT. He has that kind of athletic ability. But he's certainly capable at RT or ZBS OG (as you mentioned) as a fallback. Here, I'd say he'd be the same thing a number of other guys would be (Martin, Sua-Filo, Bitonio, Kouandjio, *Brandon Thomas)... really quality depth at OG/OT and competing for a starting OG spot in 2014, followed by taking over RT in 2015.

The layers are starting to unfold with these OL. Based on my evaluation of the players, here are the guys I'd be happy about taking in these rounds:

R1: None
R2: Moses, Sua-Filo
R3: Bitonio, Turner, Yankey, Jackson
R4: Thomas
 

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Sign me up for Turner as well. Love the guards in this draft.
 

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100% with you here. I do think teams could look at him as a potential LT. He has that kind of athletic ability. But he's certainly capable at RT or ZBS OG (as you mentioned) as a fallback. Here, I'd say he'd be the same thing a number of other guys would be (Martin, Sua-Filo, Bitonio, Kouandjio, *Brandon Thomas)... really quality depth at OG/OT and competing for a starting OG spot in 2014, followed by taking over RT in 2015.

The layers are starting to unfold with these OL. Based on my evaluation of the players, here are the guys I'd be happy about taking in these rounds:

R1: None
R2: Moses, Sua-Filo
R3: Bitonio, Turner, Yankey, Jackson
R4: Thomas

I'd throw Dozier in the 3rd or 4th category as well
 
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