Binge watching "Breaking Bad"

CashMan said:
I am not saying it was all along his sole thought. I am saying, I do not think the goal from beginning to end, changed from making money for his family. I think goals were added an subtracted, but making money was always there.
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Making money for his family? Yes, at the beginning.

Making money... period was his priority at the end. Not his soul priority though. He also had a problem with his creation (blue sky) being "copied".
 
Rack Bauer said:
Making money for his family? Yes, at the beginning.

Making money... period was his priority at the end. Not his soul priority though. He also had a problem with his creation (blue sky) being "copied".
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Making money in the beginning, might evolved. Like, if he was making $1mill a month, when it was just for his family, then when he evolved, and was making $3mill a month, but that $1mill was still going to his family(not actual numbers).

I think it had to do with pride. From the beginning, he didn't let Jessie contaminate his product with chile powder(think it happened 1 time), or he didn't believe it was up to his standard. He probably was a contract freak, or power went to his head. Think about him being a teacher, and not really having any say, to having power, and a ton of people wanting his products.

It was just a good show, just a couple slow parts.
 
Bought the whole series on blu ray about 3 months ago, Kick *** show for sure. Right up there with the Sopranos with the Sopranos being a little better IMO. Was very sorry to see it end. Heisenberg was a bad ** er.
 
Rack Bauer said:
Making money for his family? Yes, at the beginning.

Making money... period was his priority at the end. Not his soul priority though. He also had a problem with his creation (blue sky) being "copied".
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Exactly.

That's why its such great writing.

They took this character and started him out one way as a guy who really was just doing what he could to provide for his family and generally was only interested in that and wasn't a bad guy at all.

By the end of the series he was a completely different guy and character and it wasn't really about the money for his family anymore. It was about his own personal legacy and desire to be known as the best at what he was doing. He began to buy into himself in this new role and thought of himself more as Heisenberg then as Walter White the family man.

As you noted he admitted at the end it wasn't about the family he was doing it because he liked it and he was good at it.

And there are so many times in the series where he could have easily just walked away, with plenty of money for his family, only to be angry because Jesse or whoever was copying his stuff and he didn't like it. Hell even the thing with Hank could have been avoided if he'd just let Hank think that the other chemist was the one who did it. Instead his pride, and some drinking, got in the way and he just couldn't let someone else have credit.

Absolutely crazy. I loved that show. I'm going to have to buy the series on DVD and watch it all again.
 
BraveHeartFan said:
Exactly.

That's why its such great writing.

They took this character and started him out one way as a guy who really was just doing what he could to provide for his family and generally was only interested in that and wasn't a bad guy at all.

By the end of the series he was a completely different guy and character and it wasn't really about the money for his family anymore. It was about his own personal legacy and desire to be known as the best at what he was doing. He began to buy into himself in this new role and thought of himself more as Heisenberg then as Walter White the family man.

As you noted he admitted at the end it wasn't about the family he was doing it because he liked it and he was good at it.

And there are so many times in the series where he could have easily just walked away, with plenty of money for his family, only to be angry because Jesse or whoever was copying his stuff and he didn't like it. Hell even the thing with Hank could have been avoided if he'd just let Hank think that the other chemist was the one who did it. Instead his pride, and some drinking, got in the way and he just couldn't let someone else have credit.

Absolutely crazy. I loved that show. I'm going to have to buy the series on DVD and watch it all again.
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It was all about pride, though. He could have taken the gift money from his former coworkers in the beginning and avoided all the meth cooking.
 
Denim Chicken said:
It was all about pride, though. He could have taken the gift money from his former coworkers in the beginning and avoided all the meth cooking.
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You're right. He was too prideful to take the money for his hospital bills from his former Gray Matters coworkers. But he still would have needed money even if they did pay for his hospital bills. His wife didn't work, he had a 16 year old son with cerebral palsy, and he was having a baby girl in a few months. His thinking was he couldn't burden his wife with all these financial responsibilities if he did pass away in a few months. Paying off his hospital bills was only a portion of his problems.
 
BraveHeartFan said:
Exactly.

That's why its such great writing.

They took this character and started him out one way as a guy who really was just doing what he could to provide for his family and generally was only interested in that and wasn't a bad guy at all.

By the end of the series he was a completely different guy and character and it wasn't really about the money for his family anymore. It was about his own personal legacy and desire to be known as the best at what he was doing. He began to buy into himself in this new role and thought of himself more as Heisenberg then as Walter White the family man.

As you noted he admitted at the end it wasn't about the family he was doing it because he liked it and he was good at it.

And there are so many times in the series where he could have easily just walked away, with plenty of money for his family, only to be angry because Jesse or whoever was copying his stuff and he didn't like it. Hell even the thing with Hank could have been avoided if he'd just let Hank think that the other chemist was the one who did it. Instead his pride, and some drinking, got in the way and he just couldn't let someone else have credit.

Absolutely crazy. I loved that show. I'm going to have to buy the series on DVD and watch it all again.
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If I recall correctly...highlight to see the rest. He was ready to quit at one point, then he went to get his money from under the floor and it was gone. Thanks Skylar!!
 
He went to get that for another reason. He was in trouble at the time and that put him in more trouble. :)
 
REDVOLUTION said:
Actually I am going to agree there. They were driving home his obsessiveness and love for the perfect chemistry. Didn't need entire episode for sure.
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Also, it was a "budget-saving" episode since most of the action took place in the lab. I think they call it a "bottle-episode" when an episode's location/setting is relatively unchanged for the entire 45-60mins. But I agree, it's my least favorite of what I consider the best series ever,
 
EGTuna said:
Also, it was a "budget-saving" episode since most of the action took place in the lab. I think they call it a "bottle-episode" when an episode's location/setting is relatively unchanged for the entire 45-60mins. But I agree, it's my least favorite of what I consider the best series ever,
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Yeah, a bottle episode. It's a way for the studio to manage their money throughout the season. First became famous with Star Trek. Usually the goal is to make it more of an episode where they focus on character development through dialogue/monologue. I thought "The Fly" episode was a complete bore but I read a lot of reviews where people were saying it was the best episode of the entire series. That's insane. To me, the best episodes were when a major character died. I'd say the season 4 finale when Gus got his face blown off or the third-to-last episode when Hank got killed. I really hated to see Hank die. I really started to like him throughout the series and was hoping he'd be the guy to save the day and bust the great Heisenberg. They probably thought that was too easy and predictable of an ending.
 
Loved the Fly personally.

Breaking Bad has one of the most well written and believable "From Good guy to Bad Guy" character transformations I've seen. I Shudder to think how good the Star Wars Prequels might have been if someone like Vince Gilligan had written Anakins character arc.
 
JoeyBoy718 said:
Yeah, a bottle episode. It's a way for the studio to manage their money throughout the season. First became famous with Star Trek. Usually the goal is to make it more of an episode where they focus on character development through dialogue/monologue. I thought "The Fly" episode was a complete bore but I read a lot of reviews where people were saying it was the best episode of the entire series. That's insane. To me, the best episodes were when a major character died. I'd say the season 4 finale when Gus got his face blown off or the third-to-last episode when Hank got killed. I really hated to see Hank die. I really started to like him throughout the series and was hoping he'd be the guy to save the day and bust the great Heisenberg. They probably thought that was too easy and predictable of an ending.
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Yes that its crazy. Great episode only if you are a shrink. Lol

Teren_Kanan said:
Loved the Fly personally.

Breaking Bad has one of the most well written and believable "From Good guy to Bad Guy" character transformations I've seen. I Shudder to think how good the Star Wars Prequels might have been if someone like Vince Gilligan had written Anakins character arc.
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Wow. Yeah. I agree.

Although I thought the anakin dark story was pretty good in some parts. The actor and the lack of continuity in the light to dark was the downfall.
 
Good show. Definitely overhyped. Jesse's character was terrible by the end of the show. The finale fell flat for me.
 
Teren_Kanan said:
Loved the Fly personally.

Breaking Bad has one of the most well written and believable "From Good guy to Bad Guy" character transformations I've seen. I Shudder to think how good the Star Wars Prequels might have been if someone like Vince Gilligan had written Anakins character arc.
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It took my 2nd time around watching the series to appreciate the Fly episode.
 
theogt said:
Good show. Definitely overhyped. Jesse's character was terrible by the end of the show. The finale fell flat for me.
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Yeah, my biggest disappointment with the show was Jesse's character at the end. I was a big fan of Jesse throughout the series. The way his and Walt's characters differed made their chemistry work. He was almost as big of a character as Walt throughout the entire series and then basically vanished after that kid was killed. I don't know how you just let your second biggest character disappear in the most important season of the series.
 
CashMan said:
I do not think he is an anti-hero. If you look at it, from his point of view, he needed to support his family, because of the cancer, and he did everything in his power to give them it. While that was happening, I think he sorta turned into an anti-hero when the power went to his head, but I think all along, his goal was to do 1 thing.
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I absolutely loved the series. One of my favorites in some time.

But anti-hero he was.
There is no scenario where creating massive amounts of ultra high grade meth, leading to countless deaths (directly or indirectly), is a good thing.
I think we can agree on that.
 
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