CFZ Blame Always Finds Easy Target

[Creeper]

Who anointed Hurts?

1. He’s not in year 8
2. He’s also been to the SB and played well, unlike Dak who sucks and in his 8th try.
3. He’ll probably never win a SB either, unless his roster is perfect
4. If football came down to stopping the run, every defense that does it would win. I can guarantee you that there have been plenty of teams that have WON when they were out rushed by their opponent significantly, but it depends where you place the cut off mark.

You win when you score more points period. It doesn’t matter how it gets done, that’s the objective.

The media anointed Hurts. Wasn't he a finalist for the league MVP last year? Wasn't he given a huge contract by the Eagles? I wasn't convinced but lots of others were.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Facts. When any team rushes for 200 yards in the NFL, the winning percentage is 88%.
The Cardinals rushed for 222 yards and a 7.4 yards per carry average. Most of their runs went outside the tackles. We already know that DLaw received one of the higher grades on the defense, so what does that tell you about Parsons side of the defense?

At crunch time, the defense busted a coverage and gave up a third of the Cardinals total passing yards on one play, followed by a passing TD that put the game mostly out of reach due to the time left.

We were down by 2 TDs on our final drive that started on our own 25. 12 plays later, we are on the Arizona 5 with almost no chance to win without recovering an onside kick. For some reason, we run the ball twice and are further back than we were. On third down, Dak makes a throw that was intercepted, good coverage, but a desperation throw. I would argue he should have thrown it away and tried again on fourth down, but this game was lost way before this. Due to the OL, Mike called a much too conservative game. One would expect that if we were leading, but we were trailing the entire game.

Our offense starting field positions were 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 16, 36, 25. After an 80 yard drive and a chance to cut the lead to 5 points, we went for it on 4th and 3 instead of taking the FG.

I find it shocking that so many are blaming anyone or any unit for this loss other than Dan Quinn and the defense.
The Cardinals scored on all 5 possessions in the first half without any help from a turnover. Rushing for 222 yards made life pretty darn easy for the Cardinals and their QB. The defense forced only one 3 and out, followed by a game changing punt return by Turpin that was called back by a holding 10 yards from the line of scrimmage before Turpin even fielded the punt 52 yards away.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, but most of it should be on the defense.

You're trying to isolate this game while they're trying to punctuate longstanding arguments. There's no doubt the defense failed miserably and unexpectedly while Dak just failed miserably.

 

[Pass2Run]

Facts. When any team rushes for 200 yards in the NFL, the winning percentage is 88%.
The Cardinals rushed for 222 yards and a 7.4 yards per carry average. Most of their runs went outside the tackles. We already know that DLaw received one of the higher grades on the defense, so what does that tell you about Parsons side of the defense?

At crunch time, the defense busted a coverage and gave up a third of the Cardinals total passing yards on one play, followed by a passing TD that put the game mostly out of reach due to the time left.

We were down by 2 TDs on our final drive that started on our own 25. 12 plays later, we are on the Arizona 5 with almost no chance to win without recovering an onside kick. For some reason, we run the ball twice and are further back than we were. On third down, Dak makes a throw that was intercepted, good coverage, but a desperation throw. I would argue he should have thrown it away and tried again on fourth down, but this game was lost way before this. Due to the OL, Mike called a much too conservative game. One would expect that if we were leading, but we were trailing the entire game.

Our offense starting field positions were 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 16, 36, 25. After an 80 yard drive and a chance to cut the lead to 5 points, we went for it on 4th and 3 instead of taking the FG.

I find it shocking that so many are blaming anyone or any unit for this loss other than Dan Quinn and the defense.
The Cardinals scored on all 5 possessions in the first half without any help from a turnover. Rushing for 222 yards made life pretty darn easy for the Cardinals and their QB. The defense forced only one 3 and out, followed by a game changing punt return by Turpin that was called back by a holding 10 yards from the line of scrimmage before Turpin even fielded the punt 52 yards away.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, but most of it should be on the defense.

Quinn, the defense, and McCarthy take the blame for this one.

All this loss means is we don't go undefeated this year. We're going to lose some games.

By mid-season, people will see the Cards aren't all that bad a football team.

 

[McKDaddy]

Facts. When any team rushes for 200 yards in the NFL, the winning percentage is 88%.
The Cardinals rushed for 222 yards and a 7.4 yards per carry average. Most of their runs went outside the tackles. We already know that DLaw received one of the higher grades on the defense, so what does that tell you about Parsons side of the defense?

At crunch time, the defense busted a coverage and gave up a third of the Cardinals total passing yards on one play, followed by a passing TD that put the game mostly out of reach due to the time left.

We were down by 2 TDs on our final drive that started on our own 25. 12 plays later, we are on the Arizona 5 with almost no chance to win without recovering an onside kick. For some reason, we run the ball twice and are further back than we were. On third down, Dak makes a throw that was intercepted, good coverage, but a desperation throw. I would argue he should have thrown it away and tried again on fourth down, but this game was lost way before this. Due to the OL, Mike called a much too conservative game. One would expect that if we were leading, but we were trailing the entire game.

Our offense starting field positions were 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 16, 36, 25. After an 80 yard drive and a chance to cut the lead to 5 points, we went for it on 4th and 3 instead of taking the FG.

I find it shocking that so many are blaming anyone or any unit for this loss other than Dan Quinn and the defense.
The Cardinals scored on all 5 possessions in the first half without any help from a turnover. Rushing for 222 yards made life pretty darn easy for the Cardinals and their QB. The defense forced only one 3 and out, followed by a game changing punt return by Turpin that was called back by a holding 10 yards from the line of scrimmage before Turpin even fielded the punt 52 yards away.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, but most of it should be on the defense.

No doubt that what you say is correct to a large degree. If we were talking about one game or this game being completely different from what we have experienced many times before I don't think it would get linked to the & offense. But people have seen us struggle to put up points in games like this for a while now and regardless of what our D didn't do, they should have been able to put up points against a team that hasn't exactly been a shutdown unit. It all fits together. If the offense performs better, maybe the D gets it's act together a little more.

 

[CowboyFrog]

You're trying to isolate this game while they're trying to punctuate longstanding arguments. There's no doubt the defense failed miserably and unexpectedly while Dak just failed miserably.

lol wow you just told him he is using one game to prove a point but its not as good as you using one game to prove a point... the hypocrisy on this board is great..."The defense having 1 bad game out of 3 means nothing BUT Dak having one bad game out of 3 means everything".. how funny.

 

[Brax]

Facts. When any team rushes for 200 yards in the NFL, the winning percentage is 88%.
The Cardinals rushed for 222 yards and a 7.4 yards per carry average. Most of their runs went outside the tackles. We already know that DLaw received one of the higher grades on the defense, so what does that tell you about Parsons side of the defense?

At crunch time, the defense busted a coverage and gave up a third of the Cardinals total passing yards on one play, followed by a passing TD that put the game mostly out of reach due to the time left.

We were down by 2 TDs on our final drive that started on our own 25. 12 plays later, we are on the Arizona 5 with almost no chance to win without recovering an onside kick. For some reason, we run the ball twice and are further back than we were. On third down, Dak makes a throw that was intercepted, good coverage, but a desperation throw. I would argue he should have thrown it away and tried again on fourth down, but this game was lost way before this. Due to the OL, Mike called a much too conservative game. One would expect that if we were leading, but we were trailing the entire game.

Our offense starting field positions were 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 16, 36, 25. After an 80 yard drive and a chance to cut the lead to 5 points, we went for it on 4th and 3 instead of taking the FG.

I find it shocking that so many are blaming anyone or any unit for this loss other than Dan Quinn and the defense.
The Cardinals scored on all 5 possessions in the first half without any help from a turnover. Rushing for 222 yards made life pretty darn easy for the Cardinals and their QB. The defense forced only one 3 and out, followed by a game changing punt return by Turpin that was called back by a holding 10 yards from the line of scrimmage before Turpin even fielded the punt 52 yards away.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, but most of it should be on the defense.

D wasn’t great but you know what 16 points don’t win many NFL games, Incompetent Offense that produces FGs isn’t a juggernaut so many of you raved about after 2 games. It seems many of you always have a excuse waiting for the Offense and that’s shocking. It seems if the D gives up more than 14 it sucks. Moore sucked as a play caller, Linehan sucked Garrett sucked now MM it never ends. 3 back up lineman isn’t a excuse, penalties that’s on MM and has been a recurring theme for him. I see other posts about needing better weapons on offense also. Every year it’s the same. The last 17 years it’s the same with one constant and it’s name is Jerry, his culture, lack of football acumen, and poor management as a GM with FF hiring and yes men HCs is the root cause the yearly failures. It’s sad so many good players wasted because Jerry can’t see the forest because of the trees. It’s not Dak or wasn’t Romo holding the team back it’s Jerry’s mismanagement from socks to jocks

 

[Big_D]

D wasn’t great but you know what 16 points don’t win many NFL games, Incompetent Offense that produces FGs isn’t a juggernaut so many of you raved about after 2 games. It seems many of you always have a excuse waiting for the Offense and that’s shocking. It seems if the D gives up more than 14 it sucks. Moore sucked as a play caller, Linehan sucked Garrett sucked now MM it never ends. 3 back up lineman isn’t a excuse, penalties that’s on MM and has been a recurring theme for him. I see other posts about needing better weapons on offense also. Every year it’s the same. The last 17 years it’s the same with one constant and it’s name is Jerry, his culture, lack of football acumen, and poor management as a GM with FF hiring and yes men HCs is the root cause the yearly failures. It’s sad so many good players wasted because Jerry can’t see the forest because of the trees. It’s not Dak or wasn’t Romo holding the team back it’s Jerry’s mismanagement from socks to jocks

3 backup linemen isn't an excuse???? LOL that's funny! Arizona D didn't have to do any more than rush 4 guys. That's a serious problem. Any offense in the NFL down to 2 starters on the Oline will have issues.

 

[CowboyFrog]

3 backup linemen isn't an excuse???? LOL that's funny! Arizona D didn't have to do any more than rush 4 guys. That's a serious problem. Any offense in the NFL down to 2 starters on the Oline will have issues.

there you go trying to put facts into this.. you know there is no room for facts in this argument...

 

[jblaze2004]

The Eagles have won 3 games this year and Hurts, the guy they anointed last year has yet to play a decent game. He has thrown 3 INTs and lost 1 fumble in 3 games. His rating is lower than Dak's at 89, and he has been sacked 8 times compared to Dak's 3, 2 of which were against the Cardinals with the banged up Cowboys OL.

The Eagles won because they run the football and stop the run. They have only 6 sacks compared to Dallas's 12. But the Eagles give up 3.0 yards per carry. Dallas gives up 5.3 yards per carry. The Eagles have given up 145 yards in 3 games while Dallas has given up 394 yards.

The QB is front and center when a team loses because he is responsible for every offensive play. But football still comes down to running and stopping the run. Dallas failed to stop the run and gave up 115 yards on 3 running plays Sunday. They gave up almost 200 yards on 4 plays. You cannot win playing that poorly on defense.

Its this simple.

We just suck at stopping the run again this year. IDk if Quinn is going too light on the dline or our linebackers and safeties are really bad in the the run game but we sucked big time. It's like we just didn't care to stop the run.
Hurts had 2 turnovers yesterday that are being overlooked why because that defense and running game won the game. We you can run the ball and stop the run you will get far during the season especially when the weather gets bad.

VS the Cardinals we ran the ball good. I don't like the gimmick plays we did in the redzone. The issue is we couldn't stop them from running. When you can run the ball it makes it easier on everyone.

 

[Big_D]

there you go trying to put facts into this.. you know there is no room for facts in this argument...

Common sense isn't common.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Its this simple.

We just suck at stopping the run again this year. IDk if Quinn is going too light on the dline or our linebackers and safeties are really bad in the the run game but we sucked big time. It's like we just didn't care to stop the run.
Hurts had 2 turnovers yesterday that are being overlooked why because that defense and running game won the game. We you can run the ball and stop the run you will get far during the season especially when the weather gets bad.

VS the Cardinals we ran the ball good. I don't like the gimmick plays we did in the redzone. The issue is we couldn't stop them from running. When you can run the ball it makes it easier on everyone.

no no no, when we win by 40 its the defense when we win by 30 its the defense.. when we give up 200 yards rushing and lose by 2 td's to a Backup QB who has never won a game in the NFL..its the QB..it makes perfect sense if your willing to lose all logic.

 

[aikemirv]

Facts. When any team rushes for 200 yards in the NFL, the winning percentage is 88%.
The Cardinals rushed for 222 yards and a 7.4 yards per carry average. Most of their runs went outside the tackles. We already know that DLaw received one of the higher grades on the defense, so what does that tell you about Parsons side of the defense?

At crunch time, the defense busted a coverage and gave up a third of the Cardinals total passing yards on one play, followed by a passing TD that put the game mostly out of reach due to the time left.

We were down by 2 TDs on our final drive that started on our own 25. 12 plays later, we are on the Arizona 5 with almost no chance to win without recovering an onside kick. For some reason, we run the ball twice and are further back than we were. On third down, Dak makes a throw that was intercepted, good coverage, but a desperation throw. I would argue he should have thrown it away and tried again on fourth down, but this game was lost way before this. Due to the OL, Mike called a much too conservative game. One would expect that if we were leading, but we were trailing the entire game.

Our offense starting field positions were 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 16, 36, 25. After an 80 yard drive and a chance to cut the lead to 5 points, we went for it on 4th and 3 instead of taking the FG.

I find it shocking that so many are blaming anyone or any unit for this loss other than Dan Quinn and the defense.
The Cardinals scored on all 5 possessions in the first half without any help from a turnover. Rushing for 222 yards made life pretty darn easy for the Cardinals and their QB. The defense forced only one 3 and out, followed by a game changing punt return by Turpin that was called back by a holding 10 yards from the line of scrimmage before Turpin even fielded the punt 52 yards away.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, but most of it should be on the defense.

The defense was bad but the offense in the red zone was equally pathetic!

 

[jblaze2004]

3 backup linemen isn't an excuse???? LOL that's funny! Arizona D didn't have to do any more than rush 4 guys. That's a serious problem. Any offense in the NFL down to 2 starters on the Oline will have issues.

What's crazy is I seen them getting pressure with 3 lineman rushing. It was bad. I don't see how we went into the season not thinking about having a decent back up. Maybe she would of took a guard in the 2nd round instead of a 3rd string TE. O'Cyrus Torrence was picked right after we selected Schoon.

 

[Brax]

3 backup linemen isn't an excuse???? LOL that's funny! Arizona D didn't have to do any more than rush 4 guys. That's a serious problem. Any offense in the NFL down to 2 starters on the Oline will have issues.

Did you watch the game? Excuses are like ••• holes everyone has one and they all stink. OL backups suck according to you, 185 y rushing 235 dink and y passing, LOL, you want HOF backups now too. LMAO with the excuse cripples.

 

[gtb1943]

3 backup linemen isn't an excuse???? LOL that's funny! Arizona D didn't have to do any more than rush 4 guys. That's a serious problem. Any offense in the NFL down to 2 starters on the Oline will have issues.

ITs an excuse but does not cover the FACT that even with a nearly healthy O line before this game the Red Zone offense SUCKED.

I seem to recall you making excuses about that before.

Do doubt no matter what excuses are what you care about

 

[Big_D]

Did you watch the game? Excuses are like ••• holes everyone has one and they all stink. OL backups suck according to you, 185 y rushing 235 dink and y passing, LOL, you want HOF backups now too. LMAO with the excuse cripples.

3 linemen down,. That's not an excuse. Stats don't matter. The Defense didn't have to do anything special. Rush 4 guys drop 7.. not sure what you don't get here? I don't expect all world backups but I don't expect 3 out there at the same time either.It's not like the guys sidelined are scrubs. 3 most important linemen on the team at the moment. It was definitely a problem. Funny is fans still expect them to light up the score board or just elevate their level of play. LOL

 

[Big_D]

ITs an excuse but does not cover the FACT that even with a nearly healthy O line before this game the Red Zone offense SUCKED.

I seem to recall you making excuses about that before.

Do doubt no matter what excuses are what you care about

They didn't play a single game yet with their starting 5.

 

[gtb1943]

3 linemen down,. That's not an excuse. Stats don't matter. The Defense didn't have to do anything special. Rush 4 guys drop 7.. not sure what you don't get here? I don't expect all world backups but I don't expect 3 out there at the same time either.It's not like the guys sidelined are scrubs. 3 most important linemen on the team at the moment. It was definitely a problem. Funny is fans still expect them to light up the score board or just elevate their level of play. LOL

stats don't matter

classic

 

[gtb1943]

They didn't play a single game yet with their starting 5.

They didn't play a single game yet with their starting 5.

What part of nearly did your excuse making overlook?

 

[Mr_437]

It was a team loss, but Dak still shouldn't have thrown that pass into triple coverage.