Bleacher Report: AP's "dream scenario" is trade to Cowboys

[Stash]

well, thats easy. Behind this offensive line we can just plug and play and pick someone up in the draft...

so why even use a valuable draft choice on a RB? Just pick someone up off a PS...or just a guy looking for a roster spot...

I'm wondering if the people saying they won't give up anything more than a 4th rounder for Peterson also feel that they wouldn't use any higher pick on a rookie running back either.

I mean if you're not willing to use a high pick on the league's best running back you obviously wouldn't use one on an unproven rookie, right?

 

[Stash]

By then romo will be retiring and we will be garbage anyways. I'd rather make a push for the ring he deserves now. I've said in another thread I'd only do it if ap takes a paycut and incentive based deal.

3 years $25 million with $15 million guaranteed.

 

[viman96]

well, thats easy. Behind this offensive line we can just plug and play and pick someone up in the draft...

so why even use a valuable draft choice on a RB? Just pick someone up off a PS...or just a guy looking for a roster spot...

I'm not saying nor implying that any RB will excel behind the Cowboys OL. However there are quality RBs in the draft and the opportunity will be there and I'd prefer to take a chance a young RB the team can build around.

 

[viman96]

Nobody is taking on AP's current contract, including the Vikings. So they have two options, trade him and get something or cut him and get nothing. He's told them he's not reworking his contract to stay in Minnesota, which is why he and his agent are campaigning to move on as soon as possible.



Talk about a 'what if'!

I see the deal, any negative 'what if's' about Peterson are treated as facts, while any 'what if's' about unproven rookies should be disregarded and swept under the rug.

Romo's current restructured contract is also a 'cap killer', and this team should expect to pay $16 million plus in dead money after Romo is gone. And they're prepared to do that. And Peterson's new deal would likely add another $6 - $8 million in dead money after he's gone too.

The good news is at that point, both players' replacements will be rookies playing on minimal rookie deals so the dead money wouldn't be the cap killer many are fearing.

I just added that "What if" out of spite

FWIW the only way I'd take AP is $4M-$5M range and do not give up any draft picks. I realize there is no way that would ever happen. To me that is basically the same if Murray would have remained in Dallas.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

I'm wondering if the people saying they won't give up anything more than a 4th rounder for Peterson also feel that they wouldn't use any higher pick on a rookie running back either.

I mean if you're not willing to use a high pick on the league's best running back you obviously wouldn't use one on an unproven rookie, right?

Right.

Its a fun argument though. Deciphering peoples reasons for one move or another....Including mine.

I am pushing for AP(there is a limit, but its higher then most here) and the goal is the Super Bowl for the next 2-3 years.....

I don't understand how people can have that much confidence in any rookie.....To me, the choice is obvious..... given the situation. I just really hope it happens. Signing DMc kind of puzzles me a little?

 

[phildadon86]

I'm not saying nor implying that any RB will excel behind the Cowboys OL. However there are quality RBs in the draft and the opportunity will be there and I'd prefer to take a chance a young RB the team can build around.

You are taking a chance on an unproven rookie and eliminating another year off of romos window with your method. We could literally draft have a legit chance at a superbowl with AP on this team. My favourite part of it is that ap doesn't have to learn blocking assignments on the fly and learn how to pick up a blitz. A rookie will. I'm not willing to risk romos career because people are worried about AP's age

 

[JoeBoBBY]

I'm not saying nor implying that any RB will excel behind the Cowboys OL. However there are quality RBs in the draft and the opportunity will be there and I'd prefer to take a chance a young RB the team can build around.

fair enough. Lets just hope that quality rookie can produce in the NFL. Because if we don't get AD, the Cardinals will. And we will want to keep AD off the field for as long as possible, when we play Arizona in the playoffs....

just joking................................ sort of?!?!

 

[Stash]

I just added that "What if" out of spite

Fair enough.

FWIW the only way I'd take AP is $4M-$5M range and do not give up any draft picks. I realize there is no way that would ever happen. To me that is basically the same if Murray would have remained in Dallas.

Few people share the opinion that Murray is in any way equal to Peterson. Murray is a good running back while Peterson is a once in a generation talent.

Those runs that Murray was taking for 30 yards last year, Peterson would have taken to the house. Knowing that is a big part of why the Cowboys are interested in making the upgrade.

 

[Stash]

Right.

Its a fun argument though. Deciphering peoples reasons for one move or another....Including mine.

I am pushing for AP(there is a limit, but its higher then most here) and the goal is the Super Bowl for the next 2-3 years.....

I don't understand how people can have that much confidence in any rookie.....To me, the choice is obvious..... given the situation. I just really hope it happens. Signing DMc kind of puzzles me a little?

I think it comes down to philosophical differences.

You're either a fan of the 'patiently build' mindset, which involves both financial and draft responsibility of not giving out big-money contracts regularly while retaining draft picks and building via the draft for long-term success.

Or

You're in the 'kick the door in' crowd who feel like you've got a small window left with Romo and want to add whatever they can to have the best chance to win a championship while he's still here.

 

[waving monkey]

we an also

And when that rookie doesn't pick up a blitz and romo gets killed then what?

we have RB's [McFadden and maybe Randle] who can pass block.
We have coaches who can teach until rookie is ready

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Where there is constant smoke, maybe there is fire ...

http://m.bleacherreport.com/article..._campaign=programming-national?is_shared=true

I don't doubt AP wants to see it happen. He also realizes that our o-line, plus our continuous spotlight, gives him the best chance to revitalize his career and perhaps make a run at Emmitt's record.

If the price is right (read: Randle and a 3rd) I would pull the trigger.

 

[Stash]

I don't doubt AP wants to see it happen. He also realizes that our o-line, plus our continuous spotlight, gives him the best chance to revitalize his career and perhaps make a run at Emmitt's record.

If the price is right (read: Randle and a 3rd) I would pull the trigger.

I have a feeling that compensation may include a conditional 2016 draft pick. Say one that could vary between a 5th and 3rd round pick depending on future performance. Those type deals, as well as exchanging 6ths for 7ths and a player seem to be occurring more frequently these days.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I have a feeling that compensation may include a conditional 2016 draft pick. Say one that could vary between a 5th and 3rd round pick depending on future performance. Those type deals, as well as exchanging 6ths for 7ths and a player seem to be occurring more frequently these days.

For that price I would take it in a heartbeat. I don't think Minnesota is going to be willing to part with him for much less than a 2nd, however.

 

[viman96]

For that price I would take it in a heartbeat. I don't think Minnesota is going to be willing to part with him for much less than a 2nd, however.

You think Peterson is worth a guaranteed $40-$45M and a 2016 3rd RD pick?

 

[Cowboy Brian]

You think Peterson is worth a guaranteed $40-$45M and a 2016 3rd RD pick?

Over how many years?

 

[viman96]

Over how many years?

His current contract has 3yrs remaining for somewhere around $40-$45M.

 

[Stash]

You think Peterson is worth a guaranteed $40-$45M and a 2016 3rd RD pick?

I don't think ANYBODY - including the Vikings - is paying Peterson that. And everyone - including him - knows that. I think that's why he and the Vikings are at an impasse. He won't rework his deal to stay, and they won't cut him.

A standoff.

But I firmly believe that he will play in Dallas for $25 million over three years with at least half of that amount guaranteed.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I don't think ANYBODY - including the Vikings - is paying Peterson that. And everyone - including him - knows that. I think that's why he and the Vikings are at an impasse. He won't rework his deal to stay, and they won't cut him.

A standoff.

But I firmly believe that he will play in Dallas for $25 million over three years with at least half of that amount guaranteed.

I think the only way we are getting him for 25m over 3 years, or a little more than 8m a season, is if it's fully guaranteed.

 

[Stash]

I think the only way we are getting him for 25m over 3 years, or a little more than 8m a season, is if it's fully guaranteed.

I think we would be willing to effectively guarantee two years of the deal if we guarantee him $12-$13 million of it. And we'd effectively either rework the deal after two years or release/retire him and 'eat' the remaining signing bonus when he's gone in year three.

 

[viman96]

I don't think ANYBODY - including the Vikings - is paying Peterson that. And everyone - including him - knows that. I think that's why he and the Vikings are at an impasse. He won't rework his deal to stay, and they won't cut him.

A standoff.

But I firmly believe that he will play in Dallas for $25 million over three years with at least half of that amount guaranteed.

Wishful thinking on your part.

Until the Vikings change their position it is what it is.