Bleacher Report: Dont buy the Hype on QB Wentz

[tm1119]

Flacco averaged 285 yards with an average passer rating of 118.05 with 11 TDs and 0 INTs in his 4 playoff games that year. He absolutely was a main reason they won that year. He is kind of like Eli, he can get very hot at times.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FlacJo00/gamelog/post/

Flacco got hot for a super bowl run, sure. But he's been largely mediocre before and after that. He's far a franchise QB, and far from the type of talent we should be looking for from our next QB.

 

[tm1119]

Are you talking about the Baltimore defense that gave up 468 yards and 31 points in the SB that year, and the defense and ST that allowed 35 in the divisional round that year? That defense? Cause it seemed to me Joe Flacco's 38 and 34 points generated in those games had alot to do with the outcomes. It also seemed his 11td/0 int postseason was a large factor in them winning.

Usually, not always, the SB MVP has a great deal of impact in the outcome of the SB. I'm pretty sure Flacco won the SB MVP that year.

Wasn't talking about the 1 fluke run in the playoffs, I was referring to the rest of his career. Hes an immobile statue with a big arm that gets him into trouble forcing balls. If you were building a franchise would Flacco even be in the top 10 guys you'd consider at QB if you could choose from anyone?

Didn't think everyone would get so up in arms about me talking bad about a QB that has thrown 46 INT's in his last 42 games. My bad.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Wasn't talking about the 1 fluke run in the playoffs, I was referring to the rest of his career. Hes an immobile statue with a big arm that gets him into trouble forcing balls. If you were building a franchise would Flacco even be in the top 10 guys you'd consider at QB if you could choose from anyone?

Didn't think everyone would get so up in arms about me talking bad about a QB that has thrown 46 INT's in his last 42 games. My bad.

Yep. Funny how the people defending Flacco for one good playoff run think Romo is better than Eli despite two good playoff runs.

 

[Dhragon]

Yep. Funny how the people defending Flacco for one good playoff run think Romo is better than Eli despite two good playoff runs.

How does saying Flacco doesn't suck equate to saying Eli should be better than Romo? Makes no sense. Romo is better than BOTH Flacco or Eli. Doesn't mean Flacco or Eli are trash though and not worthy of being drafted in the first round if there was a redraft.

Some people seem to think only Super Elite QBs are worth anything and if you can't get one, you shouldn't even try to get a very good QB instead. Why do you think the very good, but not Elite QBs are very seldom let go by their teams but resigned to hefty contracts instead? Because very good QBs who are at least capable of going on hot streaks and winning it all are rare and coveted. Not as much as Elites, but still coveted.

Hopefully we draft a QB at #4 and he becomes an Elite QB. But if the best he can become is Flacco 2.0, that isn't bad and still worth the pick IMO. A bit disappointing, but not bad.

 

[SportsGuru80]

Wentz is being overhyped... 2nd or 3rd at best SMH.

 

[Dhragon]

Wentz is being overhyped... 2nd or 3rd at best SMH.

Could be right, could be wrong. We'll not really know for a couple years. Hopefully our coaches/scouts make the right decision on him given the opportunity.

 

[reddyuta]

How does saying Flacco doesn't suck equate to saying Eli should be better than Romo? Makes no sense. Romo is better than BOTH Flacco or Eli. Doesn't mean Flacco or Eli are trash though and not worthy of being drafted in the first round if there was a redraft.

Some people seem to think only Super Elite QBs are worth anything and if you can't get one, you shouldn't even try to get a very good QB instead. Why do you think the very good, but not Elite QBs are very seldom let go by their teams but resigned to hefty contracts instead? Because very good QBs who are at least capable of going on hot streaks and winning it all are rare and coveted. Not as much as Elites, but still coveted.

Hopefully we draft a QB at #4 and he becomes an Elite QB. But if the best he can become is Flacco 2.0, that isn't bad and still worth the pick IMO. A bit disappointing, but not bad.

Hit the nail on the head.if we waiting for the next Andrew luck then we might have to wait 10 more years and pray we have the top pick.

 

[tm1119]

How does saying Flacco doesn't suck equate to saying Eli should be better than Romo? Makes no sense. Romo is better than BOTH Flacco or Eli. Doesn't mean Flacco or Eli are trash though and not worthy of being drafted in the first round if there was a redraft.

Some people seem to think only Super Elite QBs are worth anything and if you can't get one, you shouldn't even try to get a very good QB instead. Why do you think the very good, but not Elite QBs are very seldom let go by their teams but resigned to hefty contracts instead? Because very good QBs who are at least capable of going on hot streaks and winning it all are rare and coveted. Not as much as Elites, but still coveted.

Hopefully we draft a QB at #4 and he becomes an Elite QB. But if the best he can become is Flacco 2.0, that isn't bad and still worth the pick IMO. A bit disappointing, but not bad.

Answer my question...taking what ever super bowls their team (emphasis on team) won out of the picture, does Flacco crack the top 10 QB's in this league? Top 15 even??

 

[BlindFaith]

Flacco got hot for a super bowl run, sure. But he's been largely mediocre before and after that. He's far a franchise QB, and far from the type of talent we should be looking for from our next QB.

Who did he have to throw to again?

 

[BlindFaith]

How does saying Flacco doesn't suck equate to saying Eli should be better than Romo? Makes no sense. Romo is better than BOTH Flacco or Eli. Doesn't mean Flacco or Eli are trash though and not worthy of being drafted in the first round if there was a redraft.

Some people seem to think only Super Elite QBs are worth anything and if you can't get one, you shouldn't even try to get a very good QB instead. Why do you think the very good, but not Elite QBs are very seldom let go by their teams but resigned to hefty contracts instead? Because very good QBs who are at least capable of going on hot streaks and winning it all are rare and coveted. Not as much as Elites, but still coveted.

Hopefully we draft a QB at #4 and he becomes an Elite QB. But if the best he can become is Flacco 2.0, that isn't bad and still worth the pick IMO. A bit disappointing, but not bad.

Exactly. Give me an Alex Smith as a backup. I'd be pretty happy with just that.

 

[tm1119]

Who did he have to throw to again?

How about Anquan Boldin with Torrey Smith on the other side? This is the 1st year you could make a legit argument he didn't have enough weapons.

 

[BlindFaith]

How about Anquan Boldin with Torrey Smith on the other side? This is the 1st year you could make a legit argument he didn't have enough weapons.

lol, ok. The least explosive WR in the league in his 8th year and Torrey Smith. Gottcha. Too bad Romo never had talent like that to throw to.

 

[Dhragon]

Answer my question...taking what ever super bowls their team (emphasis on team) won out of the picture, does Flacco crack the top 10 QB's in this league? Top 15 even??

Top 10 maybe not. Top 15 for sure. With a QB like him you have to hope he catches fire at the right time though. He does and you have a real shot at a Superbowl. Not ideal, but better than most teams have at QB.

 

[gimmesix]

I tend to agree although I think his arm is a better than B-grade level. Always tough to really tell in the college game because of the size of the football. For instance, I thought Aaron Rodgers had a pretty good arm and some scouts questioned his arm strength. But there was no way I thought Rodgers had the arm that he has today. And some QB's improve their arm strength thru better mechanics and physical conditioning. I think Romo's arm strength has improved, but Brady's has greatly improved (probably from throwing a deflated ball )

My issue with Wentz is the inconsistencies in technique. Sometimes his footwork was sloppy, sometimes his release mechanics were off, sometimes his pocket presence was off. But, he did show great mechanics as well. Just needs to be more consistent.

I think the fact is with this kid is that he needs at least 1 year on the bench. I can understand some of the worries about his accuracy and comparing him to other inaccurate QB's, but those QB's started right away and didn't have that chance to put most of their focus on their throwing mechanics and eliminate those problems. I don't think he's worthy of a #4 pick overall, but I like him as a prospect and if Goff and Lynch are gone it's tough to pass up on a guy that you may think has a good shot of being a legit franchise QB.






YR

I wonder if Dallas will wait until two of the three first-round QBs are off the board and try to trade back in for the third one. It would be a risky strategy but would allow them not to spend the No. 4 overall pick on a reach if they have Lynch and Wentz both rated in the late teens.

 

[Derinyar]

I wonder if Dallas will wait until two of the three first-round QBs are off the board and try to trade back in for the third one. It would be a risky strategy but would allow them not to spend the No. 4 overall pick on a reach if they have Lynch and Wentz both rated in the late teens.

I would expect not because you have to get up to about 20 I think, if not higher. This feels like a weak draft which makes me think that teams will push the QBs up more then normal. To get back to 20 looks like it would take, 2, 3, and 6 or more.

 

[IAmLegend]

Prediction: Wentz will be a top 15 pick. Not a top 5 one.