Bledsoe is starting to look better

[superpunk]

Like I said, I'm not knocking the guy...I think he'll always make the team competitive...but...he was sacked something like 45 times...I'm sure each time it wasn't a case of not being able to step up.

I can't think of a less mobile QB in the league. And I'm not talking about running ability...I'm talking about escapability...and it's not going to get better with age.

It's my opinion that he'll never take this team to elite status...even if we have a good offensive line...a VERY good offensive line? Perhaps. BUT we have a long way to go before this O Line is very good.

If that's what you want, we either have to get hella lucky in the draft, or suck bad enough to get that franchise QB. IMO, building a strong team is more of a sure thing, you can plug in someone at QB, and as long as they have the skill, they will excel. That's what I think Parcells is doing with Henson. Building a strong, solid top to bottom team, then putting him in when he stands a decent chance at success. (Henson or Romo, whatever) Until then, I think Bledsoe can take this team to elite status. We were on our way. You can cite parity, and it is what it is, but how many teams lost three games because of a singular player-position? None.

 

[Doomsday101]

I guess time will tell, Dooms.

I just think it's too easy for a defense to game plan against a QB who is as immobile and one dimensional as Bledsoe.

We are going to have to invest serious $$$ into this offense, more so that if he was more mobile because you are right, the O Line would have to run block AND pass block much better.

He might get us back to playoff level...we were thiiiiiis close last year...but "elite" status? I just don't see it.

When our Tackles make Phillip Daniels of the Skins look like the second coming of LT then I think that is a major problem. Some act as if the line played ok well they did not play ok they played poor, very poor. We could not establish much of a run and constantly had to try and protect both of our tackles. I don't think we have to build the best line in the NFL for Drew to have success but what we currently have is a joke.

 

[Juke99]

If that's what you want, we either have to get hella lucky in the draft, or suck bad enough to get that franchise QB. IMO, building a strong team is more of a sure thing, you can plug in someone at QB, and as long as they have the skill, they will excel. That's what I think Parcells is doing with Henson. Building a strong, solid top to bottom team, then putting him in when he stands a decent chance at success. (Henson or Romo, whatever) Until then, I think Bledsoe can take this team to elite status. We were on our way. You can cite parity, and it is what it is, but how many teams lost three games because of a singular player-position? None.

I'd simply like to see a guy who can avoid a rush...he doesn't have to be Vince Young...just have good enough feet to make a few moves to buy time.

Would I like to see a blue chipper? Sure. I am still hopeful about Henson even though I think it ain't gonna happen in Dallas.

We'll see. I love Bledsoe's arm and toughness...and he even showed some leadership skills.

I just think that when we go against the elite teams, his lack of mobility will be the achille's heel.

 

[Juke99]

When our Tackles make Phillip Daniels of the Skins look like the second coming of LT then I think that is a major problem. Some act as if the line played ok well they did not play ok they played poor, very poor. We could not establish much of a run and constantly had to try and protect both of our tackles. I don't think we have to build the best line in the NFL for Drew to have success but what we currently have is a joke.

It's gonna be tough to rebuild that line....because in fact, it IS awful as you state.

We aren't good at Center.

And last I looked, those guards are getting awfully old.

And yep, we had problems at tackle as well.

And I think it's magnified when the QB is immobile.

Bad offensive line + Immobile QB = 9-7

And ya know, considering how bad our PK was...it's pretty amazing that we achieved 9-7.

 

[superpunk]

I'd simply like to see a guy who can avoid a rush...he doesn't have to be Vince Young...just have good enough feet to make a few moves to buy time.

Would I like to see a blue chipper? Sure. I am still hopeful about Henson even though I think it ain't gonna happen in Dallas.

We'll see. I love Bledsoe's arm and toughness...and he even showed some leadership skills.

I just think that when we go against the elite teams, his lack of mobility will be the achille's heel.

Again - you saw the games. Maybe not all the time, but alot of the time, where did you want him to go? Teams overloaded the left, because of Tuckers complete incompetence. Petitti was neither strong enough or fast enough to handle any sort of rush on the right. Our centers were constantly missing blocks, or just getting pushed backwards, same for Rivera. Where did you want him to go? Only Michael Vick could have dealt with that kind of pressure.

 

[Juke99]

Again - you saw the games. Maybe not all the time, but alot of the time, where did you want him to go? Teams overloaded the left, because of Tuckers complete incompetence. Petitti was neither strong enough or fast enough to handle any sort of rush on the right. Our centers were constantly missing blocks, or just getting pushed backwards, same for Rivera. Where did you want him to go? Only Michael Vick could have dealt with that kind of pressure.

Uh....ok...let's just ask this question.

Which QB has less mobility than Bledsoe?

Again, I'm not suggesting that the O Line was good. But you are, in a sense, making my argument for me.

You just named four positions along the line where we weren't good. And Allen, IMO, was mediocre and isn't going to be getting any better.

That being the case, it's even more important to have a guy who can at least sidestep because we aren't going to be able to rebuild that line in one season.

 

[Jarv]

Uh....ok...let's just ask this question.

Which QB has less mobility than Bledsoe?

Again, I'm not suggesting that the O Line was good. But you are, in a sense, making my argument for me.

You just named four positions along the line where we weren't good. And Allen, IMO, was mediocre and isn't going to be getting any better.

That being the case, it's even more important to have a guy who can at least sidestep because we aren't going to be able to rebuild that line in one season.

Crickets....Wish I had a snickers bar.

 

[superpunk]

Which QB has less mobility than Bledsoe?

That being the case, it's even more important to have a guy who can at least sidestep because we aren't going to be able to rebuild that line in one season.

I shall answer your question with another question.

Tell me which QBs would have been able to get away from THAT kind of rush?

Vick? Maybe Ben R.? There's not many. Maybe with another QB we would have had a few less sacks. But how many more bad decisions would they have made? Bledsoe makes some doozies, but he will eat the ball, rather than throw it up for grabs most of the time. That can be a good thing. A sack is better than a TO.

 

[superpunk]

Crickets....Wish I had a snickers bar.

What, cuz it took me five minutes? God forbid.......

 

[Jarv]

I shall answer your question with another question.

Tell me which QBs would have been able to get away from THAT kind of rush?

Vick? Maybe Ben R.? There's not many. Maybe with another QB we would have had a few less sacks. But how many more bad decisions would they have made? Bledsoe makes some doozies, but he will eat the ball, rather than throw it up for grabs most of the time. That can be a good thing. A sack is better than a TO.

A sack IS a TO in many cases. Fumbles, sack kills a drives...out of FG range.

 

[Jarv]

What, cuz it took me five minutes? God forbid.......

Nope, because you did not answer Jukes question...

 

[superpunk]

A sack IS a TO in many cases. Fumbles, sack kills a drives...out of FG range.

Better to punt, than give it to the other team where you stand.

 

[Doomsday101]

It's gonna be tough to rebuild that line....because in fact, it IS awful as you state.

We aren't good at Center.

And last I looked, those guards are getting awfully old.

And yep, we had problems at tackle as well.

And I think it's magnified when the QB is immobile.

Bad offensive line + Immobile QB = 9-7

And ya know, considering how bad our PK was...it's pretty amazing that we achieved 9-7.

It may be tough to rebuild but it has to be done no matter who your QB is, unless you just want to throw out the playbook and run nothing but busted plays.

 

[Juke99]

I shall answer your question with another question.

Tell me which QBs would have been able to get away from THAT kind of rush?

Vick? Maybe Ben R.? There's not many. Maybe with another QB we would have had a few less sacks. But how many more bad decisions would they have made? Bledsoe makes some doozies, but he will eat the ball, rather than throw it up for grabs most of the time. That can be a good thing. A sack is better than a TO.

I'm not suggesting that there are a dozen QB's who would be able to avoid that rush.

But whatever rush there is, our QB is probably the least able to avoid it...or one of the three worst.

To suggest this isn't a problem simply makes not sense to me.

This thread stated that after seeing the playoff games, sportsman felt Bledsoe looked pretty good.

My eyes saw the opposite. Every QB had the ability to move in the pocket.

How this became about avoiding a jail break rush is beyond me.

 

[superpunk]

Nope, because you did not answer Jukes question...

And yet you posted it before I replied, without answering Juke's question. Interesting....

You want an answer? Fine. I can't think of another. Maybe Peyton, who can't move anywhere. What about mine? Where did you want Bledsoe to go? Most times there was NOWHERE to go. You sidestep, you're moving right into a DE. You can't step up, your interior linemen are getting shoved back in your face. So again, what do you want him to do? Grow wings and fly away? Because that is the only way ANYONE could have avoided the pressure he faced - CONSTANTLY.

 

[Jarv]

How this became about avoiding a jail break rush is beyond me.

Now, is it really beyond you Juke ????

 

[Juke99]

It may be tough to rebuild but it has to be done no matter who your QB is, unless you just want to throw out the playbook and run nothing but busted plays.

Dooms it's the degree to which it has to be done. A good O Line can protect a mobile QB.

Bledsoe is one of the least mobile QB's in the league. That's a fact.

And because of that, our O Line has to be that much better.

Geez, you guys act as if I'm saying we need Vince Young back there and that Bledsoe should have been able to avoid all the pressure this year.

My my my...me thinks thou doest protest too strongly.

 

[superpunk]

I'm not suggesting that there are a dozen QB's who would be able to avoid that rush.

But whatever rush there is, our QB is probably the least able to avoid it...or one of the three worst.

To suggest this isn't a problem simply makes not sense to me.

This thread stated that after seeing the playoff games, sportsman felt Bledsoe looked pretty good.

My eyes saw the opposite. Every QB had the ability to move in the pocket.

How this became about avoiding a jail break rush is beyond me.

The line is the problem. Correct. Look what happened to Delhomme, Plummer, Manning, when they got pressure. And it wasn't near the type of pressure Bledsoe would get, coming from all sides. They had options, to move around. Bledsoe, most of the time, had none. He couldn't step up, he couldn't sidestep. There was nowhere to go. Would you agree that all three of those QBs have substantially better Olines than the Cowboys? They provide their QBs with options, ours did not.

 

[Juke99]

Now, is it really beyond you Juke ????

Nah, sadly, not really.

 

[Doomsday101]

Dooms it's the degree to which it has to be done. A good O Line can protect a mobile QB.

Bledsoe is one of the least mobile QB's in the league. That's a fact.

And because of that, our O Line has to be that much better.

Geez, you guys act as if I'm saying we need Vince Young back there and that Bledsoe should have been able to avoid all the pressure this year.

My my my...me thinks thou doest protest too strongly.

I'm just saying changing QB again is not going to solve anything we need to address this line we have to be able to run the ball and if we can't do that then I don't care who the skill players are.