Blow this thing up!

[CowboyoWales]

Jerry & Stephen really need to get together on their free agent strategy. One wants to consider being subjectively aggressive, while the other doesn't want to even consider it. Such stupidity! It really sounds like it's time for Jerry to step aside and permit Stephen to take the reins of this team. If they're not capable of working together, all hope is, apparently, lost. No wonder this aimless team sucks!

Jerry himself kind of admitted 2024 didnt work (and appeared to blame it on Dak and injuries), ok bring back and use 2025 as the 'new 2024' where he needs to have an honest look at Dak and the draft pick over the past three years.

I suppose the question is: should he throw money at this team, when there are so many questions about those of Rookie Deals and Dak.

They do have a (so called strategy), its Annual Relevance. If he was mad about the GB game and was ever going to go to the extreme, it was last year 2024....either:
A) resign Tyron, Gilmore, Hankins, Pollard and go ALL-IN for one (two at best years), or
B) Trade: Dlaw, Tank, J-Lew, Martin, Wilson and let Dak play for his contract with a 'gutted roster'....yep 2024 would of hurt, but think where we'd be now.

 

[75boyz]

Everything should have been blown up after the GB loss. Dak should have never been extended, I wanted to move on from Diggs, Lance trade was useless, got everything we could for Lamb.

Should have dumped / ate contracts to build around Parsons. Build the trenches and superior D. Could sign a duo of serviceable/ above average rbs for fairly cheap. Even servicble WRs for a year or two can come faily cheap. Hell even start Lance till we rebuild.

We have seen the better front offices rebuild teams into a 2-3 years span after dumping bad contracts, not resigning and overpaying for "we like our guys" approach, dumping aging stars. Oh wait we have Jerry

Very good post.
I wish the Cowboy front office would have followed your suggestions here.

 

[75boyz]

Paying Dak was a mistake. You're just not going to get $60M in value out of him... Cooper Rush gave you probably 80% of Dak's play for $2M.

CeeDee was a defensible signing and he's done nothing but play out of his mind. Micah's a defensible signing at $40M/yr cause he just plays out of his mind and has a QB-ish impact on the team. Look at our defense in 2024 with and without him. I'd even say Diggs was a defensible signing. His problems have been injuries, not ability.

But Dak was an 8 year vet when we paid him, and he'd pretty much hit his ceiling. He's a technician of a QB with steeply declining physical skills, and he doesn't have the uber-quick processing needed to ball out as a weak armed pocket statue.

Now he's suffered another lower body injury, which is going to sap him of even more arm strength, and his mobility was already zero. Dude is morphing into Cooper Rush, while getting paid like Pat Mahomes. And he's got 3 more years fully guaranteed.

This reality is a (bleep) I tell ya.
Spot on bro.

 

[kskboys]

Very good post.
I wish the Cowboy front office would have followed your suggestions here.

Instead, here we are pushing more money down the pipe so we can win 9 games.

 

[CCBoy]

Get a game board called the old 30 life style.

 

[CCBoy]

Jerry himself kind of admitted 2024 didnt work (and appeared to blame it on Dak and injuries), ok bring back and use 2025 as the 'new 2024' where he needs to have an honest look at Dak and the draft pick over the past three years.

I suppose the question is: should he throw money at this team, when there are so many questions about those of Rookie Deals and Dak.

They do have a (so called strategy), its Annual Relevance. If he was mad about the GB game and was ever going to go to the extreme, it was last year 2024....either:
A) resign Tyron, Gilmore, Hankins, Pollard and go ALL-IN for one (two at best years), or
B) Trade: Dlaw, Tank, J-Lew, Martin, Wilson and let Dak play for his contract with a 'gutted roster'....yep 2024 would of hurt, but think where we'd be now.

Stick to the pub and dartboard!

 

[kskboys]

When did that happen?

Trading Wentz. Hard to miss, really.

They used extra picks acquired in trade for Davonte Smith, AJ Brown, Jalen Carter, and Cooper DeJean.

 

[kskboys]

Exactly why are some people even arguing about this?

Agenda stuff.
For some very odd reason, some are against tearing it down to build it up. WASH did it too, and they look to be coming up, though I think they might be derailed if Daniels keeps running that much. Not sustainable w/ his build(6-4/210)

The idea has been going around that stuff like tanking and rebuilding are bad. Just silly stuff, unless you have a roster like KC now or Pats w/ a Defensive freak as HC.

So, they simply deny deny deny, no matter what.

 

[kskboys]

That is a insult to Cooper Rush. He has outplayed Dak in his last few starts.

Yeah, and they're such polar opposite types.

 

[kskboys]

Paying Dak was a mistake. You're just not going to get $60M in value out of him... Cooper Rush gave you probably 80% of Dak's play for $2M.

CeeDee was a defensible signing and he's done nothing but play out of his mind. Micah's a defensible signing at $40M/yr cause he just plays out of his mind and has a QB-ish impact on the team. Look at our defense in 2024 with and without him. I'd even say Diggs was a defensible signing. His problems have been injuries, not ability.

But Dak was an 8 year vet when we paid him, and he'd pretty much hit his ceiling. He's a technician of a QB with steeply declining physical skills, and he doesn't have the uber-quick processing needed to ball out as a weak armed pocket statue.

Now he's suffered another lower body injury, which is going to sap him of even more arm strength, and his mobility was already zero. Dude is morphing into Cooper Rush, while getting paid like Pat Mahomes. And he's got 3 more years fully guaranteed.

Cooper Rush w/o the freakish D reading ability, you mean.

 

[big dog cowboy]

When you cut/trade your no. 2 overall pick QB and take the biggest salary cap hit in history at the time, most, or at the very least some, would consider this a version of blowing it up.

That is no where close to blowing it up. It's not even in the same universe of blowing it up.

 

[kskboys]

That is no where close to blowing it up. It's not even in the same universe of blowing it up.

That was just the Lynchpin.

Since 2019, the Eagles have replace 3 OLs, both starting WRs, their RB, their QB, 3 of their starting DL, all 3 LBs, and 3 of their DBs.

That's 16 of 22 starters.

And that's from a simple perusal of their starting lineup prior to last year.

Wentz didn't work out. They determined that he was not going to take them there. Sooooooo, they got what they could, and started using draft picks acquired to rebuild. Almost a complete rebuild.

What's up w/ such strong resistance against blowing it up to get into super bowl contention?

 

[CCBoy]

That is no where close to blowing it up. It's not even in the same universe of blowing it up.

While the road to his recovery is still in it's infacy, teammates getting a glimpse of Overshown walking around without crutches is a step in the right direction.

I'm betting on the man!

 

[75boyz]

Instead, here we are pushing more money down the pipe so we can win 9 games.

I know brother.
The whole insanity schtick.
The continuance of it is practically overwhelming.

 

[75boyz]

That was just the Lynchpin.

Since 2019, the Eagles have replace 3 OLs, both starting WRs, their RB, their QB, 3 of their starting DL, all 3 LBs, and 3 of their DBs.

That's 16 of 22 starters.

And that's from a simple perusal of their starting lineup prior to last year.

Wentz didn't work out. They determined that he was not going to take them there. Sooooooo, they got what they could, and started using draft picks acquired to rebuild. Almost a complete rebuild.

What's up w/ such strong resistance against blowing it up to get into super bowl contention?

I'd say you pretty much described a full re-build in detail here.
Not sure why the resistance to accept these facts is so hard either.

 

[big dog cowboy]

What's up w/ such strong resistance against blowing it up to get into super bowl contention?

 

[75boyz]

That is no where close to blowing it up. It's not even in the same universe of blowing it up.

Refer to kskboys post #112 then.
Geez man.

 

[blueblood70]

Jerry & Stephen really need to get together on their free agent strategy. One wants to consider being subjectively aggressive, while the other doesn't want to even consider it. Such stupidity! It really sounds like it's time for Jerry to step aside and permit Stephen to take the reins of this team. If they're not capable of working together, all hope is, apparently, lost. No wonder this aimless team sucks!

Look, just because their choice of words happen to be different, doesn't mean behind the scenes you know not tipping their hand isn't on the same page maybe they have a plan and there's not letting everyone know... maybe this confusion is purposeful or just don't listen to what they have to say because it's really hollow you can't take either one with more than a grain of salt..

. What I took from Jerry's statements is this he confuses himself ,he didn't choose the proper words, because what he meant was, because this question was free agency before the draft, were they going to be aggressive and he didn't feel they had large enough voids from the starter group to be desperate and getting into a bidding war with the Tier 1 early free agent frenzy.. which doesn't always work out well for teams, they don't feel the need to do that it doesn't mean they will do it, he's just saying they weren't entering FA period early on with desperation.​

I think they both meant the same thing, they just said it differently, and it doesn't mean they won't be in play for a big name free agent whether it's earlier one that's left after the first 2+ weeks, the tier two players still have a lot of production offer a team and or just because they don't get aggressive with free agency before the draft let's make sure that's in bold quoted letters before the draft doesn't mean they won't make a trade or 2,

but there are players that are being released in the last couple of days and the days to come and they will be more after the draft that will be some surprises like a guy like Tyler Lockett so right now maybe they're not targeting somebody but then one guy drops on the street and then they go get him go get him...

So yes, it sounded like it was confusion, but I don't believe it is I think they're making all this moves to free up money just in case there is opportunities, and they'll make those decisions when they come but not go out and get crazy.​

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They really haven't done that in a long time and most teams don't participate in that first five or six days where they're all out bidding each other for the same player and those players don't always workout.​

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I mean I know the eagles just won a Super Bowl but they paid huff to be a top tier pass rusher and he did absolutely nothing this year nothing he literally wasn't even active for the Super bowl that was a lot of money, and I know they decided it was worth the risk BUT most teams do NOT!​

 

[Bullflop]

Look, just because their choice of words happen to be different, doesn't mean behind the scenes you know not tipping their hand isn't on the same page maybe they have a plan and there's not letting everyone know... maybe this confusion is purposeful or just don't listen to what they have to say because it's really hollow you can't take either one with more than a grain of salt..

. What I took from Jerry's statements is this he confuses himself ,he didn't choose the proper words, because what he meant was, because this question was free agency before the draft, were they going to be aggressive and he didn't feel they had large enough voids from the starter group to be desperate and getting into a bidding war with the Tier 1 early free agent frenzy.. which doesn't always work out well for teams, they don't feel the need to do that it doesn't mean they will do it, he's just saying they weren't entering FA period early on with desperation.​

I think they both meant the same thing, they just said it differently, and it doesn't mean they won't be in play for a big name free agent whether it's earlier one that's left after the first 2+ weeks, the tier two players still have a lot of production offer a team and or just because they don't get aggressive with free agency before the draft let's make sure that's in bold quoted letters before the draft doesn't mean they won't make a trade or 2,

but there are players that are being released in the last couple of days and the days to come and they will be more after the draft that will be some surprises like a guy like Tyler Lockett so right now maybe they're not targeting somebody but then one guy drops on the street and then they go get him go get him...

So yes, it sounded like it was confusion, but I don't believe it is I think they're making all this moves to free up money just in case there is opportunities, and they'll make those decisions when they come but not go out and get crazy.​

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They really haven't done that in a long time and most teams don't participate in that first five or six days where they're all out bidding each other for the same player and those players don't always workout.​

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I mean I know the eagles just won a Super Bowl but they paid huff to be a top tier pass rusher and he did absolutely nothing this year nothing he literally wasn't even active for the Super bowl that was a lot of money, and I know they decided it was worth the risk BUT most teams do NOT!​

I haven't given up on them entirely, but I'm willing to wait to see what comes of their future dealings. Stephen is giving strong hints that he's willing to take careful action on the veteran free agents, up to a point.

On the other hand, Jerry has carelessly admitted to being very reluctant to consider doing anything different this year, although, it remains to be seen how this FO carries out its intentions when the time comes to act.

Let's hope they demonstrate something to show their willingness to be more active than what they've been in the past. Yes, the early signs are encouraging, but when Jerry speaks, he seems to be very reluctant to say anything will change. I do hope he's avoiding showing his hand at this early juncture, to avoid tipping his hand to other teams. In that event, he'd be far better off to remain silent until the time comes for action to be taken.