Bob Hayes and Chuck Howley Finalists for the Hall

[ZeroClub]

Howley and Hayes both belong in the HoF. That said, I am surprised that Nobis wasn't in a long time ago except that he played on some pretty lame Falcons teams (like his teammate Center Jeff Van Note who should also have been in a long time ago).

Howley played in more Pro-Bowls and was in more big games but I would put he and Nobis on par with each other as far as talent.

Johnny Robinson was an excellent DB for the Chiefs in the 60s (1960-1971) but the early days of the AFL were not exactly stocked with talent so you could say that he didn't play against the best competition. That would probably be an incorrect assumption though as he had his best seasons later in his career posting 43 INTs from 1966-1971 and only 14 from 1962-1965.

Not only that, he was a RB his first 2 seasons and didn't play DB until 1962 so he picked off 57 passes in 10 seasons playing DB. He was selected to 7 Pro-Bowls from 1963-1970 (only missing in 1969).

This will be a tough choice if they can only select 2 out of the 4 players. Obviously, I would like to see Hayes and Howley inducted but it wouldn't shock me to see one or both skipped over again.

As good as Nobis and Robinson were, IMO they didn't contribute as much to the game as Hayes or Howley and that should be the deciding factor but as we all know, the committee is made up of mediots and they will vote their biases as usual.

Nice post.

I'd like to see all four of them get in this year. Too bad that isn't possible. All of them are deserving.

If push came to shove and I could only vote for two, I'd cast one of those votes in favor of Johnny Robinson. The second vote would go to Chuck Howley.

 

[percyhoward]

If push came to shove and I could only vote for two, I'd cast one of those votes in favor of Johnny Robinson. The second vote would go to Chuck Howley.

That's what I'd do too.

 

[percyhoward]

Face it, comparable stats between some guy in the late 60s and early 70s and another who competed this century -- there is a difference. It's called level of competition.

Dave Wilcox.

And yes, Virginia, there is a bias.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Dave Wilcox.

And yes, Virginia, there is a bias.

Great fella, that Wilcox.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Hehe. Well, I'll leave it with this. If you have come to your conclusions on "Chucky", the same way you have put me into the "homer" category, then I stand by my observations, and rest my case. It is obvious you don't know either of us that well.

Rc

But I would vote for you for the HOF!!!
:laugh2:

 

[percyhoward]

Great fella, that Wilcox.

Must have been, to have played Howley's position, during Howley's era, have less impressive credentials than Howley, and still make it into the Hall of Fame.

Probably has a helluva sense of humor.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Must have been, to have played Howley's position, during Howley's era, have less impressive credentials than Howley, and still make it into the Hall of Fame.

Probably has a helluva sense of humor.

I said great fella, Mr. Reconquista.

But since HOF bias is rampant, do ya think Wilcox might have had more charisma?