Bob Hayes' Sister is a Fraud??? Wow...

Chocolate Lab

Run-loving Dino
Messages
37,116
Reaction score
11,471
Randy White;2617506 said:
It might be a coincidence, but the few times I saw Mr. Hayes' interviews, I saw his smile in Lucille.
Funny, Galloway just said the same thing.
 

Established1971

fiveandcounting
Messages
5,800
Reaction score
4,322
TheSport78;2617243 said:
BOB HAYES’ SISTER ISN’T HIS SISTER?

Posted by Josh Alper on February 2, 2009, 1:01 p.m.
When the 2009 Pro Football Hall of Fame class was announced on Saturday, one of the most memorable moments was when a letter written by the late Bob Hayes was read by his sister. Hayes had written the letter in case he ever made it into Canton, and he thanked, literally, everyone in the world.
It was a nice moment, but now Hayes’ former business manager is coming forward and saying that the whole thing was a fraud. Ted McIntosh, who also went to Florida A&M with Hayes, spoke with Richie Whitt of the Dallas Observer.
“She’s a fake. A total perpetrator. She’s hoodwinked the Dallas Cowboys, the NFL , the Hall of Fame and the national media. But she isn’t a member of the Hayes family. And she’s about to be exposed … She isn’t related to Bob Hayes. She’s an impostor.”
According to McIntosh, Hester grew up a few blocks away from Hayes and only became close to him when he was dying in 2002. McIntosh claims she falsified a will that gave her Hayes’ Super Bowl ring and Olympic gold medal.
McIntosh is godfather to Bob Hayes Jr., who he says is in rightful possession of those items. Hayes Jr., McIntosh argues, should be the one representing his father at the Hall of Fame induction and other associated ceremonies.
“When this is all said and done the family will press criminal charges,” he said. “She’s stolen from them, including that magic moment on Saturday.”
McIntosh said the he’s sent letters to the NFL, NFLPA, Hall of Fame and Cowboys owner Jerry Jones about Hester’s true identity. He also says that he spoke with Jean-Jacques Taylor of the Dallas Morning News, who has written columns about Hester and Hayes for several years.
“I called him and told him that this was not Bob Hayes’ sister,” he said. “I told him he should do some investigating of her background before he printed anything else. But he was like ‘Oh yeah, sure’ and blew me off. I tried to warn him.”
Whitt contacted Taylor, who was in Tampa for the Super Bowl, and the writer said, via email, that he’s never spoken to McIntosh.


Holy moly, between the olympics, the super bowl, jail, dying and having no tombstone for years, the drama of a 30 year debate over hof induction with him being denied on his last year eligible with the veterans committe in 2003 or so only to have him go back on the list and finally get in, then THIS

Someone has got to write a book. This would make a good movie as well.
 

Established1971

fiveandcounting
Messages
5,800
Reaction score
4,322
GimmeTheBall!;2617305 said:
I should mention that in some cultures or regions, the word family is nebulous.

For instance, cousins think themselves as brothers and sisters.
Grandmothers are the grandmamas or just simply mamas.

Among other groups, first cousins are called cousin-brothers or cousin-sisters. Not the traditionally ridgid appelations of most of the country.

I don't think it strange that a nonblood relative can insinuate this way into another family.
And Hayes never bothered to contradict the term "sister" when he was alive.

If they were close, then she is probably a sister. Just not blood-related.

I had a close friend for years and knew his "brother" only to find out one day he was really his cousin
 

DallasCowpoke

Fierce Allegiance
Messages
5,539
Reaction score
302
fiveandcounting;2617599 said:
Someone has got to write a book. This would make a good movie as well.

Ahhh ohhhh.... Hos' spidey-senses just started to tingle!


:muttley:
 

Maikeru-sama

Mick Green 58
Messages
14,548
Reaction score
6
Cajuncowboy;2617342 said:
I think this is a case of someone somewhere afraid they are not going to get their slice of the "Bob Hayes Hall of Famer" pie.

Someone's worried they "Ain't gonna get mine."

I think this is probably closer to the truth.

She probably isn't related to Bob Hayes but this only became an issue when Bob Hayes finally got into the ROH and this, in turn brought more media scrutinty.
 

TheCount

Pixel Pusher
Messages
25,523
Reaction score
8,849
Do we need further proof Jean-Jacques Taylor is a professional *** hat?
 

dcfanatic

Benched
Messages
10,408
Reaction score
1
Wow. This is Ted McIntosh, Bob Hayes former business manager, talking yesterday about Lucille Hester...

Ted McIntosh on Ben and Skin

I just don't get it.

Why wouldnt she just give full disclosure as a close family friend.

She still could have played the same role if she was that close with him.
 

bbgun

Benched
Messages
27,869
Reaction score
6
Bob's not the only one with family issues.

http://img159.*************/img159/3706/80487055is6.png

Al: "Daddy?"
 

TheCount

Pixel Pusher
Messages
25,523
Reaction score
8,849
From the alleged letter:

You know I am not sure I am going to be around if I get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame so you must read this for me, I am not sure, I guess I am feeling sorry for myself at this time but you must remember everything I want you to do and say. Mother said you would do what I want because you always did. So read this for me.

I would like to thank everyone who supported me to get into the NFL Hall of Fame, the Dallas Cowboys organization, all of my team mates (sic) and everyone who played for the Cowboys, (thank the San Francisco 49ers too). Thank the fans all around the country and the world, thank the committee who voted for me and also the ones who may did not vote for me, thank Mother and my family, thank Roger Staubach and tell all my teammates I love them.

Thank the Pro Football Hall of Fame, all the NFL teams and players, Florida A&M University, thank everyone who went to Matthew Gilbert High School, thank everyone in Jacksonville and Florida and everyone especially on the East Side of Jacksonville. Thank everyone in the City of Dallas and in Texas and just thank everyone in the whole world.

I love you all.


Am I the only one that finds it odd that 1/3 of the letter basically hypes of Lucilles importance to him and her closeness to his family? No reference to the rest of his family except for literally 5 words "thank Mother and my family", no special reference to his son?

Maybe it's just be but if I'm dying and I leave a note, I probably give my son more importance than my supposed sister.
 

MrMom

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,959
Reaction score
1,541
dcfanatic;2617624 said:
Wow. This is Ted McIntosh, Bob Hayes former business manager, talking yesterday about Lucille Hester...

Ted McIntosh on Ben and Skin

I just don't get it.

Why wouldnt she just give full disclosure as a close family friend.

She still could have played the same role if she was that close with him.

Thanks, dc. This is just bizarre.
 

MrMom

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,959
Reaction score
1,541
TheCount;2617650 said:
From the alleged letter:

You know I am not sure I am going to be around if I get into the Pro Football Hall of Fame so you must read this for me, I am not sure, I guess I am feeling sorry for myself at this time but you must remember everything I want you to do and say. Mother said you would do what I want because you always did. So read this for me.

I would like to thank everyone who supported me to get into the NFL Hall of Fame, the Dallas Cowboys organization, all of my team mates (sic) and everyone who played for the Cowboys, (thank the San Francisco 49ers too). Thank the fans all around the country and the world, thank the committee who voted for me and also the ones who may did not vote for me, thank Mother and my family, thank Roger Staubach and tell all my teammates I love them.

Thank the Pro Football Hall of Fame, all the NFL teams and players, Florida A&M University, thank everyone who went to Matthew Gilbert High School, thank everyone in Jacksonville and Florida and everyone especially on the East Side of Jacksonville. Thank everyone in the City of Dallas and in Texas and just thank everyone in the whole world.

I love you all.


Am I the only one that finds it odd that 1/3 of the letter basically hypes of Lucilles importance to him and her closeness to his family? No reference to the rest of his family except for literally 5 words "thank Mother and my family", no special reference to his son?

Maybe it's just be but if I'm dying and I leave a note, I probably give my son more importance than my supposed sister.

Not only that, but it's just a bit far fetched to figure that Hayes would have the wherewithal to write a HOF induction thank you letter for a just in case scenario.
 

dallasfan4evr

Member
Messages
123
Reaction score
3
This is the same lady who was on Irvin's show today. I remember her saying that she and Bob had the same mother, but different father or vice versa. And if not mistaken, I also thought she said she was put up for adoption. Wasn't really paying attention to it.
 

GimmeTheBall!

Junior College Transfer
Messages
37,692
Reaction score
18,042
fiveandcounting;2617601 said:
I had a close friend for years and knew his "brother" only to find out one day he was really his cousin

And there you have it.

Man i cannot wait until I die so I can see my "brothers" and "sisters" come out of the woodwork for my estate.
Wait . . . I will be dead and won't see it. Well, I will work out the details with my lawyers.

And for the record, none of you here are my Zone "brothers" so don't even try to file a fiend of the court brief or flash any of your body parts to the judge to get muh mon-ay.
And to all my girlfriends, you will never find a "better" man if you know what ah means.:)
 

PullMyFinger

Old Fashioned
Messages
3,408
Reaction score
13
bbgun;2617644 said:
Bob's not the only one with family issues.

http://img159.*************/img159/3706/80487055is6.png

Al: "Daddy?"

Darth shakin hands with the Emperor?
 

Venger

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,661
Reaction score
788
That signature is astonishingly wrong. I mean, it isn't even a good attempt at a forgery, every letter is formed differently from the photo signature. The signatures are almost deliberately different, as if someone was trying to fake a handwriting sample - look at where most of the letters form and how they are written, completely different start and end points. People who are ill may have poor handwriting, but they don't start writing letters differently.

That letter looks like the phony Dan Rather letter about George Bush's National Guard service...
 

Dhragon

Deadly Claws of Death
Messages
1,957
Reaction score
1,308
jobberone;2617424 said:
What could the family do but sue her? Perhaps she has broken some law but I don't know enough to say what it would be. And it's not been that important to address this situation which is embarrassing on several levels for all. It costs a lot of money to sue someone and why bother until now. Apparently they've told people she wasn't a sister and no one believed them.

I don't fault the family even though I would have done something before now if possible.

Forgery is a crime last time I checked if indeed that was not his signature on his Will.
 

Big Dakota

New Member
Messages
11,876
Reaction score
0
TheCount;2617614 said:
Do we need further proof Jean-Jacques Taylor is a professional *** hat?

Taylor should lose his job over this if true and the sorry woman should go to jail.
 

BrAinPaiNt

Mike Smith aka Backwoods Sexy
Staff member
Messages
78,654
Reaction score
43,000
CowboysZone ULTIMATE Fan
This whole thing is bizarre. And really sad because at this time where it should be all about bob and the HOF it has turned into a hodge podge of family squabbles and possibly some woman conning people.

Take note of this in the fisher article that is strange...

article said:
I got one indication from what could be termed "the Hester camp'' that Lucille has told people that she and Bob share a father. The Hayes family is prepared to argue otherwise. But ex-wife Janice concedes that it is a possibility, however remote, that Lucille is Bob’s “long-lost sister.’’

You also have some saying that she basically might be a half sister.

Who knows, maybe they (bob and lucille) did not find out until late in life that they were related. That actually happens quite a bit. Hostile just found out recently that he had some relatives he did not know about. Remember TO talking about the story of liking a girl that lived down the street only to find out it was his half sister. Heck my wife's aunt had a girl when she was young, gave the girl for her own mother and father to adopt and to this day the girl does not know that my wifes aunt is actually her mother instead of her sister...and the lady is in her early 50's. Two years ago this girl and the woman she thinks is her sister came in to visit the family. And here we are sitting at the wifes grandfathers house and the girl says something like...he was always my dad or the best dad in the world and everyone just went quiet as everyone knew but her that he was really her grandfather. So who knows, maybe they did not find out until later in life that they were related...or maybe the family does not think she is family because she was conceived during an affair or after a divorce or something.

However even if all of that panned out to be the case. I don't see any way in hades that those signatures came from the same person. Even if bob signed that when he was near his deathbed it would not change the style in which he wrote, it just might be messier. There is no way you go from the difference in both the B and H in those two examples. And with that in mind the family really needs to bring charges against her to see if the will has the same signature of bobs or this current one on this letter.

And maybe this would explain the whole bizarre situation that kept coming up about the tombstone for Bob. At one time we would hear they could not afford it, the next time we would hear they could afford it but wanted to wait on some things, then we had stories of people donating money to pay for it and I think either a journalist or someone with the cowboys paying for the tombstone. Maybe it was a case of some contacting this lady and some contacting the family.


As others pointed out it is also odd that he never talked about his other brother, sister or his son other than saying mother and my family yet the letter seemed to talk about this woman.

Whatever the case it is just sad that this type of thing has to come up when it should be a time for Bob. Shame.
 

speedkilz88

Well-Known Member
Messages
36,953
Reaction score
23,101
I'm just going by the article/obituary I found on the net but it lists a Georgette Sanders also as a sister. I would think that is who his ex-wife was referring to as his long lost sister.

Funeral arrangements are pending. Hayes is survived by his son, Bob Jr.; four daughters, Adriene Thomas of Dallas, Glenda Moore of Jacksonville, Westine Lodge of Jacksonville and Veronica Jenkins of Somerville, N.J.; three sisters, Georgette Sanders, Lucille Hester and Lena Mae Johnson; one brother, Ernest Hayes; and his mother, Mary E. Robinson.
 
Top