Bob McGinn NFL scouts comments on Guyton

[perrykemp]

TYLER GUYTON, Oklahoma (6-7 ½, 330, 5.21, 1-2): Fourth-year junior. “If you watch the Florida State game he actually dominated (Jared) Verse,” one scout said. “He kicked his ***. Absolutely dominated him. But he only steps up for big games. He went down to the Senior Bowl and stepped up. Thing is, once he gets comfortable, once he gets complacent, he’s gonna shut it down a little bit it looks like. In the National Football League you have to step up to the challenge every week. He may be the biggest bust. He’s an athletic freak but he’s just a mental midget.” After two backup seasons at TCU, he made 14 of his 15 starts for the Sooners at RT. “Thing that pisses you off about him is he’s so dang inconsistent with his hand placement,” a second scout said. “He gets beat by guys he has no business losing to. In the run game, his temperament and finish are very inconsistent. He can do it. He just has to set his mind to it. But when he does he can get push and movement off the line of scrimmage. He can pull and get to the second level. It’s just a matter of (improving) character-wise to reach the next level.” Arms were 34 1/8, hands were 10 ¼. His vertical jump of 34 ½ inches led the top 20 tackles. “He’s talented but there’s some unknowns based on what you see on film,” a third scout said. “His technique just isn’t very good. Definitely a finesse style, but he can be a starting left tackle. Not a bad kid. You could really hit on him if you’re comfortable with the makeup.” From Manor, Texas.

 

[thunderpimp91]

He’s an athletic freak but he’s just a mental midget.”

This team clearly has a type….

 

[visionary]

TYLER GUYTON, Oklahoma (6-7 ½, 330, 5.21, 1-2): Fourth-year junior. “If you watch the Florida State game he actually dominated (Jared) Verse,” one scout said. “He kicked his ***. Absolutely dominated him. But he only steps up for big games. He went down to the Senior Bowl and stepped up. Thing is, once he gets comfortable, once he gets complacent, he’s gonna shut it down a little bit it looks like. In the National Football League you have to step up to the challenge every week. He may be the biggest bust. He’s an athletic freak but he’s just a mental midget.” After two backup seasons at TCU, he made 14 of his 15 starts for the Sooners at RT. “Thing that pisses you off about him is he’s so dang inconsistent with his hand placement,” a second scout said. “He gets beat by guys he has no business losing to. In the run game, his temperament and finish are very inconsistent. He can do it. He just has to set his mind to it. But when he does he can get push and movement off the line of scrimmage. He can pull and get to the second level. It’s just a matter of (improving) character-wise to reach the next level.” Arms were 34 1/8, hands were 10 ¼. His vertical jump of 34 ½ inches led the top 20 tackles. “He’s talented but there’s some unknowns based on what you see on film,” a third scout said. “His technique just isn’t very good. Definitely a finesse style, but he can be a starting left tackle. Not a bad kid. You could really hit on him if you’re comfortable with the makeup.” From Manor, Texas.

Im thinking any sensible person would trust this FO on rd 1 OL picks more than random scouts Bob McGinn talks to

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Not really a type of player you want coming into a team with a country club atmosphere. Sounds like a player that needs to be pushed to succeed since he doesn't seem to be self motivated. He won't be pushed here.

 

[robjay04]

Isn’t he very inexperienced? Possibly inexperience is more to blame than laziness.

 

[glimmerman]

great. Someone that needs to be pushed.

 

[JW82]

This team doesn't do many things right, but the one area where they've earned the benefit of the doubt is 1st rd lineman. Seems like a Tyler Smith clone from a report standpoint.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Once he sees how much money great starting LTs make he’ll be fine.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Im thinking any sensible person would trust this FO on rd 1 OL picks more than random scouts Bob McGinn talks to

I do think they get too much credit hitting on those pics. Martin was about as sure fire a Pro Bowler as you can get. While Frederick outplayed his projections, he was a fairly safe pick. You knew when they drafted him you were were getting a sure fire plus starter. They do deserve credit for using Tyler Smith's football character to project him

 

[Whyjerry]

Not really a type of player you want coming into a team with a country club atmosphere. Sounds like a player that needs to be pushed to succeed since he doesn't seem to be self motivated. He won't be pushed here.

Bingo. Post of the day.

That’s the issue. Talent sure but Dallas is like soft serve ice cream 24/7. That’s a bad mix. Why not JPJ with that pick? A sure fire mauler at C for the next 10 years.

 

[CATCH17]

He’s got things you can’t teach.

If the coaches do their job he should be a good player for us.

 

[Jipper]

He’s got things you can’t teach.

If the coaches do their job he should be a good player for us.

Agreed to a point...but he also doesn't seem to have that killer instinct which cant be taught...

Very worried about the inconsistency issues and the mental challenges

 

[Risen Star]

Man, I wish I would have thought to post this.

 

[JBS]

He’s got things you can’t teach.

If the coaches do their job he should be a good player for us.

We have arguably the worst OL coach in the entire nfl. Luckily for all parties involved, that’s probably only for 1 more season

 

[John813]

Man, I wish I would have thought to post this.

Going to unlike one of your previous posts to teach you a lesson, or something.

 

[exciter]

Bingo. Post of the day.

That’s the issue. Talent sure but Dallas is like soft serve ice cream 24/7. That’s a bad mix. Why not JPJ with that pick? A sure fire mauler at C for the next 10 years.

Hmmm…. Because there’s a legitimate question if he’ll last 5 (concussion issues) years and apparently he can’t snap the ball!
He went from a sure 1st round pick to being rated in the 50s in the space of 6 weeks.

 

[NDGAEDE]

Considering how negative these scouting quotes typically are, I consider this write up to be effusive praise

 

[big dog cowboy]

great. Someone that needs to be pushed.

His upside far far weighs that concern.

 

[Staubacher]

This team clearly has a type….

And the Dallas Cowboys is the worst organization to play at if you are immature and have character issues because everything is magnified

 

[Sydla]

So we drafted a high ceiling, low effort player who needs coaching and motivation and we are going to pair him with a mediocre OL coach and an atmosphere that has historically breeded complacency and self entitlement.

Sounds like a match made in heaven.